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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 5:28:36 PM   
michaelOfGeorgia


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well, thank you for your thought, however flawed it may be. perhaps after Christmas your outlook could improve.

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 5:30:31 PM   
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quote:

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I am in tears with gratitude that someone acutally got what I was trying to say

She "got it" long before you ever said it. But give yourself a cookie and a pat on the back for her enlightening her if it makes you feel better.



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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 5:31:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia

well, thank you for your thought, however flawed it may be. perhaps after Christmas your outlook could improve.


We can only hope Michael we can only hope

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 5:32:48 PM   
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i can do more than hope (have voice, will speak)

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 5:34:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelOfGeorgia

i can do more than hope (have voice, will speak)


What was that? I didn't hear you

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 5:35:46 PM   
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even though i'm a sub, i won't repeat myself...have a nice evening


< Message edited by michaelOfGeorgia -- 12/13/2006 5:36:45 PM >


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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 5:45:09 PM   
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http://www.collarchat.com/m_539780/mpage_1/key_gift/tm.htm#539948
The gift of submission

http://www.collarchat.com/m_417971/mpage_2/key_gift/tm.htm#418195
submission is a gift!!!???

http://www.collarchat.com/m_285542/mpage_1/key_gift%252Csubmission/tm.htm#285542
If submission is a 'gift.' what's dominance?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_199872/mpage_1/key_gift%252Csubmission/tm.htm#199872
The Gift you give to yourself

http://www.collarchat.com/m_195087/mpage_1/key_gift%252Csubmission/tm.htm#195087
A gift???

http://www.collarchat.com/m_137582/mpage_1/key_gift%252Csubmission/tm.htm#137582
The Domly Gift

http://www.collarchat.com/m_135667/mpage_1/key_gift%252Csubmission/tm.htm#135667
Why do so many view submission as a gift?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_128811/mpage_1/key_gift%252Csubmission/tm.htm#128811
Do you consider your submission to someone a gift?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_118674/mpage_1/key_gift%252Csubmission/tm.htm#118674
Gift or not...

http://www.collarchat.com/m_109097/mpage_1/key_gift%252Csubmission/tm.htm#109097
The "gift" of submission

http://www.collarchat.com/m_26446/mpage_1/key_gift%252Csubmission/tm.htm#26446
On the gift of submission

http://www.collarchat.com/m_17487/mpage_1/key_gift%252Csubmission/tm.htm#17487
my thoughts on the "gift" of submission



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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 5:47:01 PM   
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Hotdogs and Marshmellows anyone?  There's gonna be some flames here.  

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 5:49:49 PM   
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 My thought is that you need to chill.


My mother has a talent for sending me gifts that make me laugh my ass off.  One time, I was the recipient of a square egg maker for Xmas.  I spent the afternoon with friends, drinking hard liquor and boiling eggs, placing them in this plastic box to violate their natural shape from oval to square.  A few years later, a package arrived from home on my birthday. I unwrapped a gawd-awful pink sweatshirt which had a large stain on the front and a note pinned to the stain, "I think this will wash out easily." 
Some things are gifts, some gifts are opportunties to enjoy the humorous side of life.

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 5:53:02 PM   
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I personally do not see submission as a gift. It is who I am. Thats it.

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 5:54:26 PM   
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My only response?

I see we've got another "TRUE DOM" who has come to tell us all how we should be doing everything! Because there are is no varitation in d/s of course. Let us beg him for knowledge and let him school us in the things we thought we knew!

Because I mean... it doesn't matter if the two people are happy in the relationship they are in. It's wrong damn it!

Seriously - Your way is not the only way. Chill the fuck out.

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 6:01:25 PM   
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i am, going to repost a bit of something i posted yesterday in an absolutely unrelated thread

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my submission to someone is not a gift, or a right; it's closer to a prize, though that isn't exactly it either... Ma'am has earned my submission, not by dominating me or any type of sex or scene; but by simply being who She is and making me feel safe and secure and loved... She didn't take control or demand it, i freely offered it with a trust that She'll do what is best for me, to guide and train me to be better not as a submissive, but as a man

i know that many of the things that She does or has me do will be unpleasant, but i love Her and trust Her that in the end it will make me stronger and make us work better as a family, will bring us closer

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 6:04:24 PM   
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Well happy holly hack the shit out of people for no reason, to you too!

MY submission is a gift that i give to only one person, someone who loves me, respects me, and deserves to have me at his feet.


and it 'taint' you sunshine.
no submission, no respect heading your way.

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 6:05:39 PM   
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Submission is...whatever the parties involved say it is. 

There is no ONE definition of submission, not yet anyway.  There are as many definitions of submission, domination, and slavery as there are people practicing their own flavors of them.  You don't have to agree with or even like all of them, you just have to find a partner that likes your flavor. 



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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 6:07:29 PM   
twistedwillow


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quote:

ORIGINAL: darchChylde

i am, going to repost a bit of something i posted yesterday in an absolutely unrelated thread

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my submission to someone is not a gift, or a right; it's closer to a prize, though that isn't exactly it either... Ma'am has earned my submission, not by dominating me or any type of sex or scene; but by simply being who She is and making me feel safe and secure and loved... She didn't take control or demand it, i freely offered it with a trust that She'll do what is best for me, to guide and train me to be better not as a submissive, but as a man

i know that many of the things that She does or has me do will be unpleasant, but i love Her and trust Her that in the end it will make me stronger and make us work better as a family, will bring us closer


darchChylde has hit it on the head.
thankyou for posting something that better articulates what i was trying to say..

twistedwillow

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 6:14:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

My only response?

I see we've got another "TRUE DOM" who has come to tell us all how we should be doing everything! Because there are is no varitation in d/s of course. Let us beg him for knowledge and let him school us in the things we thought we knew!

Because I mean... it doesn't matter if the two people are happy in the relationship they are in. It's wrong damn it!

Seriously - Your way is not the only way. Chill the fuck out.



I see we have another example of the jump to conclusion syndrome that permeates these boards. Why don't you point out where in the fucking world I ever proported to be a True Dom which by the way is a term I hate even more than the fawning "its a gift".

You sound very angry that I have offered my opinion and my perspective and it does not match yours.  I would ask yourself where all that anger is coming from because my post was not made in anger, it was an expression of my thoughts and if it sounded angry to you because I used the term" fuck you and your gift" than you need a class in sarcasm 101. This is an imperfect medium we are using, we rely on words without expression without physicality and mistakes are made but you have not only jumped to conclusions you have leaped off the face of reality.
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I did not tell anyone here to fuck off or chill the fuck out and I don't appreciate being insulted by you or anyone else.

Im done with you


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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 6:16:46 PM   
michaelOfGeorgia


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then, is it over? can we all go home now?

LOL


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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 6:22:45 PM   
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I laughed at the "fuck you and your gift" too.( I think I may have to clean my keybaord I was drinking coffee at the time.)

I don't see submission as a gift either...however within your definition of gift giving, I wonder how many
gifts are really ever given in "any" way....

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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 6:23:17 PM   
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2you,

Unfortunately, when you start off with something sweeping like 'fuck you and your gift' you not only tell anyone who doesn't agree with you to fuck off, you alienate a lot of people who might have otherwise agreed or at least considered your post seriously.  Think of it as saying "Nigger" in a rap club.  Unless your black, you're probably going to get turned into a pasty red pulp.  You should have known better.  Might as well take a couple marshmellows and enjoy your own roast.


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RE: It Aint A Gift - 12/13/2006 6:24:12 PM   
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while i disagree with some of the points made in the OP, i agree that submission is not a "gift" to be given nor a "prize" to be earned, but rather simply one's nature/personality, something innate and beyond one's control any more than natural eye or hair color.

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