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Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/5/2007 11:10:14 PM   
juliaoceania


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01-05) 11:28 PST Washington -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had a blunt message today for President Bush -- it's time for him to realize his policy on the Iraq war is "over.''

With Bush widely reported to announce a "surge'' next week of about 20,000 troops to help secure Baghdad for the embattled Iraqi government, the anti-war speaker warned the president that "a surge is an escalation of the war'' that will get a cold reception in the new Democratic-led House
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/05/BAGIDNDL1N4.
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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 6:58:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can't help but wonder why Bush waited until Congress and the House were both controlled by the Democrats, before seeking to escalate the number of troops in Iraq.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 7:08:42 AM   
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The facts are the "car" is a wreck and there isn't much that can be done about it.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 7:29:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		       I can't view this as anything more than a publicity stunt.  Congress can cut off funding, not dictate how the war is conducted.  Even if the Dems could get that through their pussy-hair margin in the Senate, they'd never overturn a veto.

      A far more telling press release of what is coming is the resignation of failed (thank God) Supreme Court nominee Harriet Myers as White House Counsel.  After the burger-flippers get their raise (and prices are already up at the drive-thru window), it is going to be one investigation after another for two years.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 9:02:45 AM   
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I can't view this as anything more than a publicity stunt.  Congress can cut off funding, not dictate how the war is conducted.  Even if the Dems could get that through their pussy-hair margin in the Senate, they'd never overturn a veto


But congress has the power of subpoena, personally I saw it as a threat. If I were a criminal wanting to escalate a war, well the democrats and their investigative functions into my shenanigans might stop me.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 9:08:23 AM   
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take yer political debate crap to poli-sci.org, or join a yahoo political debate group, and please DO try and remember there are MANY people on this site who aren't interested in your US poli-babble BS

if voting really COULD change anything it'd be illegal anyway.
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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 9:13:01 AM   
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Oh yeah.........this is a sex site?   I'll be damned.

Happy Saturday!

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 9:14:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

last I checked - this is a sex site, not a plotical forum debate as per yahoo lists


take yer political debate crap to poli-sci.org, or join a yahoo political debate group, and please DO try and remember there are MANY people on this site who aren't interested in your US poli-babble BS

if voting really COULD change anything it'd be illegal anyway.
shuddup


I guess you "check" just as well as you handle English.  Does the term "off topic" mean anything to you?



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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 9:21:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: smilezz

Actually Sekhemet, this is why they call it  "Off Topic Discussion".  Pretty much anything goes here. 

Oh yeah.........this is a sex site?   I'll be damned.

Happy Saturday!

~smilezz~


Exactly right, smilezz.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 9:25:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

last I checked - this is a sex site, not a plotical forum debate as per yahoo lists


take yer political debate crap to poli-sci.org, or join a yahoo political debate group, and please DO try and remember there are MANY people on this site who aren't interested in your US poli-babble BS

if voting really COULD change anything it'd be illegal anyway.
shuddup


Another one I'm proud to call Canadian.

Can I change my country to Uzbekistan? 

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 9:29:21 AM   
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Can I change my country to Uzbekistan? 

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Then you'd have to hang with BORAT.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 9:32:03 AM   
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But I hear he hangs well....

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 9:37:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's the proper time for nancy pelosi to understand ONE thing. she is the Speaker of the House, NOT the President of the United States. If it were up to me, pelosi would be a waitress.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 9:40:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Michaelat92544

It's the proper time for nancy pelosi to understand ONE thing. she is the Speaker of the House, NOT the President of the United States. If it were up to me, pelosi would be a waitress.


Another proud supporter of Bush?

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 9:44:44 AM   
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If it were up to me, pelosi would be a waitress.


If it were up to me, Bush would be a meter maid.

We all have to live with our disappointments

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 9:53:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Fortuneately, it's not up to you, alone. After the next terrorist attack in the United States, pelosi will look like the cunt she is, and the President will be able to say, "I told you so, cunt!"

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 9:58:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a parliament or a communist dictatorship . . . That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
 
Hmmmmm....
 
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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 10:04:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

That's Kazakhstan.

But I hear he hangs well....

Yours,


benji
Kazakhstan.  Uzbekistan.  Same thing.
Yeah...BORAT is pretty well hung.  From what I've heard.


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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 10:07:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK- civics 101 lesson: It IS Nancy Pelosi's job as Speaker of the House to limit Presidential power in the United States Gov't. That she has already taken the witholding of funds to fight the Iraq war off the table has told me in no uncertain terms that she's not up the job.  I can forgive the younger among us for not knowing this, as the Republican led House and Senate have certainly not been doing any sort of limiting for many years now. But- we the voters asked for it and now all I hear are complaints about how this isn't what we wanted. Listen carefully...

"I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!"

By the way, John, Mr. Bush wouldn't make it as a meter maid- it would cut into his golf schedule. Luckily, being the most powerful man in the world allows him to ignore world affairs and go play anytime he likes.

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RE: Pelosi warns Bush: Troop surge won't be accepted - 1/6/2007 10:10:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		The poor slob on the farm wants to keep his farm. The slob wants to be free. He doesn't want his women wearing scarves and he certainly doesn't want war. But "comes a time," you have to stand up for what you want. It's not a political decision. It's a secular decision. You, that includes me, do what you have to, to protect what you have. Anyone who doesn't understand that is doomed to be owned by another.

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