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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 3:33:46 PM   
untamedshysub


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Status: offline 		I have been told more than once I have unrealistic expecations because I refuse to play or have sex with men I dont know ( how am I going to get experience) lol I prefer a Dom who can hold a conversation that I can learn something from when he talks. I like tall  intelligent men , who understand that D/s is more than play, finding a man to have sex and beat your bottom is a dime a dozen , finding a Dom who knows that the Art of War is a book  written long before weslely snipes was a twinkle in his great great great grandparents eye priceless. 

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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 3:57:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: daddysliloneds

nah, you earned that with your passive-aggressive behavior in private e-mail to me; kind of like what you're doing right now.


some people buttons are just too easy to push...

Yup... sent you an email about your profile... and you didn't like the message....  I don't like negative profiles or negative people... I laugh when those some individuals want to pawn it off as being a Realist.  So this very thread is very much expressive of individuals like yourself.

The fact is some individuals are so focus on the negative reality they loose sight of the fact that the message they send shows an uglyiness about them.  It doesn't have to be Fat Chicks or Bald Pricks that own the right to being entirely to negative of the world and of other people. It really is a equal opportuntiy proposition for anyone to demonstrate an ugliness of themself.  To be a Realist is not about pointing and warding off all the subjective ugliness that one sees from their perspective.  Being a Realist is accepting that negataive things are out their and that one can take positive actions to avoid them.  But without question every now and again one is going to be stepping in it.... it just the realistic thing to expect.

Yup.. I demonstrate some ugliness about myself from time to time... I have been called an Asshole, Prick, Bastard, Insensitive, Stubborn, Thoughtless and that was just from Mom.  I agreed completely with her... because I am those things at times... hell.. If she would of called me a Son-of-a-Bitch... I would of agreed with her again too... but dang she never called me that... don't know why.

But, I am other things as well... like mmmmmmm ummmmmmmm  mmmmmmmm ... well ok can't think of anything... but my point is... besides havng realistic expectation... we need to express a postiveness about ourselves if we want to connect with others.  Pretty though to find someone that is attracted to uglyiness of a person.  So... one thing I noticed about the whiners and complainers of all the jerks in the world is they tend to have an ugly attitude as well as unrealistic expectations.

editted to add:  Oh yeah.. thanks for coming out to play.....  she has also called me Sarcastic... go figure uh

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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:02:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lighthearted


maybe instead of this turning into an "I'm better than you are thread" or a "why are all _____ fat", it could be a "why can't we all just get along thread"...



I suppose it escapes some people that this thread is not about Fat people.  He could of easily used  "Purple" People..  We need to look beyond our own defensive responses.

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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:05:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: untamedshysub

who knows that the Art of War is a book 


And  dom that knows the battle is won before is even fought??

I just suspect that is just another aspect of the person your looking for

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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:09:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		yes as a matter of fact it is. It fits with my unrealistic expectations

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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:11:45 PM   
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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:16:03 PM   
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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:16:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

And  dom that knows the battle is won before is even fought??


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ORIGINAL: untamedshysub

yes as a matter of fact it is. It fits with my unrealistic expectations


Not unrealistic at all, my Master always knows  the battle is won before it is fought.
 


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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:17:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nightblueone

The book was good.  


yes. read it over 20 years ago... you know I think I am due to a reread

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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:18:49 PM   
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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:20:01 PM   
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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:23:41 PM   
Salacious40


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Thank you,

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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:30:26 PM   
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I don't think that is entirely his point.... I think it's more that we must be honest with all of what we are.. and expect no more OR no less.  Be Realistic! in the probablity and effort required to obtain one's desired expectations.  Be it body size, age, or other very subject tastes and ideals. 



I agree that an honest, open approach with who we are and what we are searching for is paramount.

Perhaps I misread his original post but it seemed to me that in his experiences he felt that the larger, unattractive (according to societal standards) should not have unrealistic expectations. My point was that we are taught to set the bar high, regardless of our sizes, in all aspects of life. I was confused to why he would see this sub-culture as any different.


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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:33:41 PM   
nightblueone


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Why go there in the first place?

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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:34:21 PM   
untamedshysub


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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:36:38 PM   
nightblueone


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Status: offline 		He left so does mean He when to go re-read the book?????

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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:41:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Salacious40

My point was that we are taught to set the bar high, regardless of our sizes, in all aspects of life. I was confused to why he would see this sub-culture as any different.



I agree that setting the Bar High is a healthy approach.  However, the High Bar must be realistically obtainable.  I think setting the Bar too High (setting up to fail) is just as damaging as setting the bar too Low (setting up to be abused)... both lead to unhappiness.

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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:47:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I understand the OP properly, it's about making the best of yourself.  I have in me the potential to be anything between a 5'10", 300# slob in a dirty shirt and without a job to being a 5'10", 180# athlete in a pressed designer suit, making a few hundred grand a year.  The reality lies in between.

If you want to get the best, be the best.  You control your destiny.  Stand out from the crowd.

Yours,


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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:48:23 PM   
Salacious40


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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

I agree that setting the Bar High is a healthy approach.  However, the High Bar must be realistically obtainable.  I think setting the Bar too High (setting up to fail) is just as damaging as setting the bar too Low (setting up to be abused)... both lead to unhappiness.



Very well said, KoM.

with my head in the clouds and my feet firmly planted on the ground,

Elena

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RE: Unrealistic expectations - 1/15/2007 4:50:24 PM   
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