Lidh2l
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Okay. We can't keep our mouth shut anymore.
When Frank Miller was growing up, he saw the old movie "The 300 Spartans." He loved it to death, and it stuck in his head forever after.
Years later, as he was beginning to establish himself as a graphic novelist with stuff like Daredevil, Dark Night Returns and Ronin, he thought back to this memory and wrote 300.
Sin City came later, and we all see the absolute beauty that turned out to be. Whether or not you enjoy the movie, one thing is hard to refute: outside of Japan, nothing like the Sin City graphic novels has ever been so successful, and we find it hard to simply dismiss that. Enough of this tangent, though.
When the "Last Samurai" came out, Nathan Algren, the protagonist, mentioned Thermopylae to Matsumoto to inspire him. This struck a cord with someone, and they started doing research on it, seeing if they might be able to make a movie out of it. Along the way, they found Frank Miller's "300." At that point, the road was set. 300 was going to be made into a movie.
What we're getting at here is that this is NOT a historical movie. "The 300 Spartans" was not historically accurate, "300" was not a historically accurate graphic novel, and "300" is not a historically accurate movie. MICHEAL. WE ARE TALKING TO YOU. We had never seen a post by you until this thread, so now the only evidence we have to "judge" you by is the "I don't like historical movies" comment. We still don't know exactly what to think of you, because we're not going to judge you off of this thread alone. Everyone else seems to think some pretty strong thoughts about you, but we're not going to go there. Because we don't judge a book simply by it's cover. You shouldn't either. To help you in this, and to add something interesting to this thread, in our opinion, here is the trivia on this movie from imbd.com.
The film was shot in 60 days.
The film was shot on green screen in Montreal.
There are 1500 cuts in the film, and about 1300 involve some sort of visual effect.
The work was photographed completely in Montreal, with the exception of two days of insert shooting in Los Angeles.
Ten visual effects vendors contributed to the film, spread over three continents.
The filmmakers used bluescreen 90% of the time, and greenscreen for 10%. They chose blue because it better matched the lighting paradigm (green would have been too bright) and because red garments (a la spartan capes) look better when shot over blue.
There was one day of location shooting, which was for the horses that were shot for the 'approaching sparta' scene.
The script demanded that most of the male cast spend the majority of their screen time bare-chested, as per Frank Miller's original graphic novel. Therefore, in order to adequately present themselves as the most well-trained and marshalled fighting force of the time, the entire principal cast underwent a rigorous and varied training regime for 6 weeks prior to shooting.
Sienna Miller and Silvia Colloca were each considered for the role of Queen Gorgo.
You paying attention to this next one? Good.
According to an interview with IGN.com, Director Zack Snyder says that fighting styles and formations (particularly the Spartan's phalanx) were purposefully changed - making them historically inaccurate - so they'd "look cool" and work better for movie purposes.
The movie never claims to be historically correct. It is based somewhat loosely on Frank Miller's 1998 comic book mini-series. Changes from history were made by Miller and Snyder so as to appeal to a wider audience and create a more exciting and visually stunning action movie, rather than a typical historical epic.
Frank Miller was inspired by the original Battle of Thermopylae after viewing the 1962 film "The 300 Spartans" as a child. His perception of the 'hero' concept changed greatly after seeing the Spartans make their sacrifice.
Expecting a history lesson from "300" would be like expecting a history lesson from "Titanic." We know someone who was kicked out of a movie theater because they screamed out "THE BOAT SANK, YOU DICAPRIO FREAKS, GET OVER IT." They weren't kicked out for disrupting the movie-going experience; they were kicked out because too many people demanded their money back for them ruining the end of the movie.
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RE: "300" The Movie - 
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Not to mention some of the other Persian charactors. I am still trying to figure out how you could use a Rhino as a battle weapon, the Elephants were not used at this time period. There were some truths from the movie, like only certain Spartan Women were allowed to bear children. New borns were exaimed and if inperfect were killed, female babies, many were killed right off..males were the ones wanted. This is why Sparta died, a limited number of Women were allowed to have children, the gene pool was small, inbreading, and a negative population growth. The temple scene was more of the Temple of Delpha which was near Athens. It is believed that the Spartans were betrayed when a "Goat Trail" was used to get around them. The following battle where the movie ended was actually a sea battle not land, The Greeks did win it and this is the last time Persia attempted to conquer Greece. The Queen of Sparta did make a quote that is still used by the Special Forces of the Greek Army .."Come back carrying your shield or on it". This is said to be what Spartan Mothers told their Sons as they left for battle.
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