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myobedience -> most important virtues (3/31/2007 6:57:22 AM)
Good morning ladies and gents of the submissive persausion, I really do not want bottoms to respond.... they are about scene or play in public or private .... this is for submissives/slaves whose motivation is truly submission to a Dom/me or even Poly group. There are virtues that people describe in regards to D/s, M/s, BDSM. Which ones are the most important to you and why? safe sane consensual honest loyal trustworthy faithful obedient open responsible strength honor I did not exhaust the list.... How do you practice your virtue? Do you demand the same of your Dom if in a relationship? If not in relationship, what quality/virtue do you look for first? How do you test it in another? Thanks for your input.

Aileen68 -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 6:58:46 AM)
evilness.

OnlyHis -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 7:38:21 AM)
I have been owned by Master for over 5 years and i have learned a lot about myself in that time with his guidance and my own willingness to be all i can be. There are many virtues i think are important in my M/s relationship with Master, but none more important than the others. Obedience trustworthy honest faithful and loyal inner strength patience humility respect honor I attempt to practice these in all aspects of my everyday life and yes sometimes i fail but learn from those failures. I don't demand the same from Master but if he did not have these characteristics (virtues) we would not of gotten as far as we have today . Great question .

juliaoceania -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 7:44:50 AM)
quote: I really do not want bottoms to respond.... they are about scene or play in public or private .... this is for submissives/slaves whose motivation is truly submission to a Dom/me or even Poly group. I do not know why it was necessary to add this, and personally I believe that all these characteristics are equally valuable to people everywhere depending on their situation.

sweetnurseBBW -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 8:01:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: I really do not want bottoms to respond.... they are about scene or play in public or private .... this is for submissives/slaves whose motivation is truly submission to a Dom/me or even Poly group. I do not know why it was necessary to add this, and personally I believe that all these characteristics are equally valuable to people everywhere depending on their situation. I agree. Being a bottom doesn't make someone less worthy of these characteristics. It is just want works for them. All these characteristics apply to bottoms as well as anyone else involved in the lifestyle.

velvetears -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 8:16:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: myobedience How do you practice your virtue? i just accept that i am human and will make errors in judgement from time to time. i do the best i can to be "all those things" (virtues) and they are good ideals to strive for. Do you demand the same of your Dom if in a relationship? How can you demand someone else to have any of these virtues? They either do or they don't. Only thing you can do here is spend time with them so you can truly see and experience the nature of their character. It's easy to pretend for a while, but over time someone's true nature will surface. You need to choose someone with as many virtues you value as possible. If not in relationship, what quality/virtue do you look for first? Integrity - it sort of covers a lot of the others [;)] How do you test it in another? Time Thanks for your input.

stockingluvr54 -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 8:55:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sweetnurseBBW quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: I really do not want bottoms to respond.... they are about scene or play in public or private .... this is for submissives/slaves whose motivation is truly submission to a Dom/me or even Poly group. I do not know why it was necessary to add this, and personally I believe that all these characteristics are equally valuable to people everywhere depending on their situation. I agree. Being a bottom doesn't make someone less worthy of these characteristics. It is just want works for them. All these characteristics apply to bottoms as well as anyone else involved in the lifestyle. Thankyou very much.........

Obsidiansnamaste -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 9:00:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: myobedience There are virtues that people describe in regards to D/s, M/s, BDSM. Which ones are the most important to you and why? safe sane consensual honest loyal trustworthy faithful obedient open responsible strength honor I did not exhaust the list.... How do you practice your virtue? Do you demand the same of your Dom if in a relationship? If not in relationship, what quality/virtue do you look for first? How do you test it in another? Thanks for your input. For a slave: honesty, obedient, trustworthy, loyalty, devotion, transparent, vulnerable, honor For a Master: Honesty, responsible, trustworthy, strength, honor, integrity How do you practice your virtue? These are part of my being who i am, i "practice" by being true to self, being a Seeker and always trying to grow. Do you demand the same of your Dom if in a relationship? i don't demand anything from Master. He IS my Master because He does posess a all of the virtues i have listed. Because these are part of HIM, i don't feel any need to make demands or to attempt to make sure that He keeps to His inner compass. i believe it is not my place to oversee Him. How do you test it in another? i observe them. i get to know the person, on ALL levels.

viperess -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 9:10:47 AM)
Greetings, Obsidiansnamaste said a mouth full there. she said it much better than i could have and i agree with it 100%

agirl -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 9:15:35 AM)
I don't possess any virtue that I could claim as * something that I am. I'm sometimes all of those things and sometimes I'm not. Everyone that I have ever known has possessed them to some* degree at some time, but not all the time. Understanding, perserverance, consistancy and fairness, are probably the virtues that have made the biggest impact on me and have benefitted me the most in regards to M. He would probably have a different list, regarding me, to do his job well. He requires are far greater degree of openess from me, for instance. agirl

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 10:04:41 AM)
I agree with Julia- your comment was unnecessary and shows a limited understanding of the variety of relationships and personalities which exist. You DO know that a person can be both a slave AND a bottom, yes? My important characteristics: awareness and appreciation of self awareness and appreciation of social environment humor which matches my own style of sarcasm, irony, wit, sardonicism and self-degradation Good sense of style Enjoys getting out of the house http://www.collarchat.com/m_158262/mpage_1/key_dominant%252Ccharacteristics/tm.htm#158262 what is dominance? http://www.collarchat.com/m_81695/mpage_1/key_dom%252Ctraits/tm.htm#81695 What are the signs/traits of a good dom? http://www.collarchat.com/m_176730/mpage_1/key_dom%252Ctraits/tm.htm#176730 "real doms" http://www.collarchat.com/m_223089/mpage_1/key_dom%252Ctraits/tm.htm#223089 a submissives perspective http://www.collarchat.com/m_257771/mpage_1/key_dom%252Ctraits/tm.htm#257771 what I look for in a good owner http://www.collarchat.com/m_284665/mpage_1/key_dom%252Ctraits/tm.htm#284665 top ten characteristics I want in a dom? http://www.collarchat.com/m_339652/mpage_1/key_dom%252Ctraits/tm.htm#339652 nature of dominance

jauntyone -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 10:32:51 AM)
Greetings Master demands two things from me absolute obedience and beauty from the inside out Everything else is subject to his own whims I wish you well melissa

IrishMist -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 10:47:04 AM)
quote: I don't possess any virtue that I could claim as * something that I am. I'm sometimes all of those things and sometimes I'm not. Everyone that I have ever known has possessed them to some* degree at some time, but not all the time. I would agree with this, but also with what LA, and Julia said in regards to bottoms.

sambamanslilgirl -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 11:18:10 AM)
trust - is very important for our relationship because without it, our D/s dynamic is doomed to fail. i think i demanded that more from Daddy than He did from me since He knows i don't trust or allow many into my inner circle. after trust, comes respect (as a person first then as in our roles), honsesty, love, cherish, integrity, safe, independent, self-motivated, confident, successful, spiritual and open.

spanklette -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 11:25:37 AM)
There are a litany of responses to this question that come to mind, but the one at the forefront is honesty. I don't demand it, how could I? My trust doesn't come very easily, it is earned...after that...intelligence, sense of humor, confidence, and the ability to compromise. It is impossible for me to list every single virtue and the order in which I find them important. We just click or we don't.

behindmirrors -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 5:18:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: myobedience There are virtues that people describe in regards to D/s, M/s, BDSM. Which ones are the most important to you and why? safe sane consensual honest loyal trustworthy faithful obedient open responsible strength honor I did not exhaust the list.... I do not limit the virtues I seek in another (and this goes for more than just my Dom, but is across the board for those I am close to in any relationship) or myself to just those related to BDSM. I do look for the same things in my Dom, however. For me, personally, I see my list of virtues as follows (in no particular order): - Rational (sane would fall under this) - Proud (having self-esteem) - Selfish (serving the self above others, only serving in a beneficial way to the self) - Thoughtful - Honorable - Loyal (to self, to those associated with them) - Willing (open-minded) - Resilient - Independent - Passionate (full of life) - Curious (seeks knowledge for the betterment of self and for enjoyment) - Creative - Responsible - Just (sense of justice morally) - Integrity (to self, to moral code/values) - Productiveness (seeks to further themselves in life) I am obedient, though independent. I do not see myself, however, as an extension of my Dominant, but as a person unto myself and capable as such. I do agree that obedience is important, though perhaps in a different way. quote: How do you practice your virtue? Through the way in which I live all of my life, as best as I am able. I practice it enthusiastically, and though I make errors, I strive to learn from them. I don't think there is a problem with making mistakes, unless it is knowingly and willingly doing so. quote: Do you demand the same of your Dom if in a relationship? I demand the same out of all those with whom I associate on any close or personal level. quote: How do you test it in another? I need not test- I observe. Then, I make a rational judgement. behindmirrors. (edited for inclusion)

myobedience -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 7:30:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stockingluvr54 quote: ORIGINAL: sweetnurseBBW quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: I really do not want bottoms to respond.... they are about scene or play in public or private .... this is for submissives/slaves whose motivation is truly submission to a Dom/me or even Poly group. I do not know why it was necessary to add this, and personally I believe that all these characteristics are equally valuable to people everywhere depending on their situation. I agree. Being a bottom doesn't make someone less worthy of these characteristics. It is just want works for them. All these characteristics apply to bottoms as well as anyone else involved in the lifestyle. Thankyou very much......... *rolls eyes.... all I was doing was narrowing the scope of my inquiry.

Caitriona -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 7:32:12 PM)
I wrote an essay on what I considered my "submissive virtues." If you're interested it can be found on my blog at ownedkitten.blogspot.com Many of those listed I would seek in my Dominant partner...as I believe they are universal for me.

KnightofMists -> RE: most important virtues (3/31/2007 8:30:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: myobedience I really do not want bottoms to respond.... they are about scene or play in public or private .... this is for submissives/slaves whose motivation is truly submission to a Dom/me or even Poly group. ....... I did not exhaust the list.... mmmmmm Open-Mindedness........ but then considering your above comment... maybe you left this out on purpose

eyesopened -> RE: most important virtues (4/1/2007 4:57:38 AM)
To me the only word i need to concentrait on is Integrity. This word encompasses honesty, trustworthiness, it means that although i will make mistakes i remain true to myself and by extension true to my Master. When one has integrity it means they will do what they say and follow through with promises, they will not put on pretenses, they will represent themselves with honor, they will respect others, they will maintain their value system regardless of circumstances.

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