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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/5/2007 6:19:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: minnetar

You were the one who said you are a slave yet in the same breath you are talking about your needs. Do you understand that a slave has none? Your basic argument with her is about wanting your needs fulfilled as she has said she has none. How can you argue the two?

minnetar

imho-everyone has needs-it may be a need to serve or please-but it is a need....someone who has no needs, i think, would be dead.

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/5/2007 6:39:54 PM

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Or maybe it's the only place where men are educated enough to admit to it. This idea was expressed by all the men in my sexuality class. Their proweress as a lover was validated by the number and quality of their partner's orgasms.

Personally, I prefer to let my partner comment on my prowess as a lover, but I digress.

I don't seek validation, whether in terms of orgasm count, or anything else. I do aim to have a content, fulfilled and happy partner, but whether that relates to my prowess as a lover, or something else entirely, will depend on what that partner wants.

In daddysprop's example, orgasms don't factor into it. In yours, it does (IIRC).

I don't dispute that many men need that for validation, though. Just objecting to the idea that all men do, or that all men are wired the same. Just like I don't think all women are wired the same. No more than two kinds of people? There's a depressing thought...

You and the waitress should get together and discuss the horrors of education in the privacy of your own home.

Your DNA screams for validation slave. Without a woman you are nothing.

< Message edited by peepeegirl5 -- 6/5/2007 6:40:38 PM >

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/5/2007 7:15:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aswad

I can't tie a cherry stem into a knot with my tongue, but I can take a hint, and I'm nothing if not persistent. That usually does the trick, or so I hear.

Else, I'm not at all adverse to learning to do better. I'm a perfectionist, after all.

The ED puts a clamp on any attempts to go the missionary route, though.

To tell you the truth, it really is the trick. I've been with a fair number of partners (probably more then my fair share!

) and I much prefer a man who is persistent and can take a hint. Shame about the missionary, but from what I hear I'm in the minority of women who prefer it. Ahh well... at least I'm happy in my minority!

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/5/2007 7:17:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5

You and the waitress should get together and discuss the horrors of education in the privacy of your own home.

Your DNA screams for validation slave. Without a woman you are nothing.

Wow. If you display that level of respect out in the real world, at least you won't have to worry about being invited back to a second munch.

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/5/2007 7:23:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: imthatacheyouhav

you can corner me if you want....thats fine...i wasnt trying to insult anyone...i am merely stating how i feel...and that is ........in my opinion .......if my partner was not caring about my sexual response i would consider him selfish and uncaring and would look for a different partner...if that makes me bad or wrong then i guess i am....

You aren't bad or wrong... simply stating your opinion.

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 1:53:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5

You and the waitress should get together and discuss the horrors of education in the privacy of your own home.

Your DNA screams for validation slave. Without a woman you are nothing.

Wow. If you display that level of respect out in the real world, at least you won't have to worry about being invited back to a second munch.

thanks bubbles, I don't live to eat, I eat to live - you can have my portion :)

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 2:22:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5

You and the waitress should get together and discuss the horrors of education in the privacy of your own home.

Your DNA screams for validation slave. Without a woman you are nothing.

Wow. If you display that level of respect out in the real world, at least you won't have to worry about being invited back to a second munch.

thanks bubbles, I don't live to eat, I eat to live - you can have my portion :)

Uhh... you do realize that a munch doesn't really have anything to do with food right? It's a gathering of lifestyle people.

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 2:44:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5

You and the waitress should get together and discuss the horrors of education in the privacy of your own home.

Your DNA screams for validation slave. Without a woman you are nothing.

Wow. If you display that level of respect out in the real world, at least you won't have to worry about being invited back to a second munch.

thanks bubbles, I don't live to eat, I eat to live - you can have my portion :)

Uhh... you do realize that a munch doesn't really have anything to do with food right? It's a gathering of lifestyle people.

Again, you can have my portion.

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 2:51:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5

Again, you can have my portion.

Charming to the last. Fortunately, I'll happily take your portion of socializing with lifestyle people off the internet in the real world. From what I've found, they tend to be more grounded then those who carelessly fling insults around.

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 2:56:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5

Again, you can have my portion.

Charming to the last. Fortunately, I'll happily take your portion of socializing with lifestyle people off the internet in the real world. From what I've found, they tend to be more grounded then those who carelessly fling insults around.

Oh Aquatic, I don't think she is doing it carelessly. It seems as though she is working hard at trying to insult & snark her way through the forums

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Heya did you notice your post count? 3333 hehe. Go play the lotto.

< Message edited by cjenny -- 6/6/2007 2:57:11 AM >

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 2:59:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5

Again, you can have my portion.

Charming to the last. Fortunately, I'll happily take your portion of socializing with lifestyle people off the internet in the real world. From what I've found, they tend to be more grounded then those who carelessly fling insults around.

Oh Aquatic, I don't think she is doing it carelessly. It seems as though she is working hard at trying to insult & snark her way through the forums .

*chuckles* Generally I consider insulting someone who just defended your position effectively careless, even if they did just point out some bad behavior. Frankly, I would have expected that comment to come our resident troll, not her.

Edited to add: Darn it, I didn't notice until after I posted. Think it's too late to go play?

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 3:09:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5

Again, you can have my portion.

Charming to the last. Fortunately, I'll happily take your portion of socializing with lifestyle people off the internet in the real world. From what I've found, they tend to be more grounded then those who carelessly fling insults around.

Oh Aquatic, I don't think she is doing it carelessly. It seems as though she is working hard at trying to insult & snark her way through the forums .

*chuckles* Generally I consider insulting someone who just defended your position effectively careless, even if they did just point out some bad behavior. Frankly, I would have expected that comment to come our resident troll, not her.

Edited to add: Darn it, I didn't notice until after I posted. Think it's too late to go play?

Charming is important.

You both could use some :)

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 3:12:56 AM

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Eh, I put that chick on block like, 3 forums ago..

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 3:28:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5

Charming is important.

You both could use some :)

Considering I didn't tell someone "You and the waitress should get together and discuss the horrors of education in the privacy of your own home.

Your DNA screams for validation slave. Without a woman you are nothing."

I think my charm skills are fine.

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 3:39:48 AM

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Charming is important.

You both could use some :)

Considering I didn't tell someone "You and the waitress should get together and discuss the horrors of education in the privacy of your own home.

Your DNA screams for validation slave. Without a woman you are nothing."

I think my charm skills are fine.

Considering you didn't think it either rude or insulting, and saw no reason to comment when the waitress slave attacked higher education as drivel or when the male agreed with her, you effectively condoned that sort of thing.

My observations stand... ALL males, including yours are nothing without female validation. This is why I'll continue to associate in r/t with hardcore women rather than confused flakes. At the same time your needs are real too and so I'm more than willing to cede my portion of any munches to you.

If your unwilling to serve justice to all, your just another partisan commentator who lacks charm.

Behave :)

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 3:47:54 AM

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Considering you didn't think it either rude or insulting, and saw no reason to comment when the waitress slave attacked higher education as drivel or when the male agreed with her, you effectively condoned that sort of thing.

My observations stand... ALL males, including yours are nothing without female validation. This is why I'll continue to associate in r/t with hardcore women rather than confused flakes. At the same time your needs are real too and so I'm more than willing to cede my portion of any munches to you.

If your unwilling to serve justice to all, your just another partisan commentator who lacks charm.

Behave :)

Can you read? What I said was:

"Or maybe it's the only place where men are educated enough to admit to it. This idea was expressed by all the men in my sexuality class. Their proweress as a lover was validated by the number and quality of their partner's orgasms.

Just a thought. "

If you go back and look, oh mighty fem dom, you will see that was in response to the "drivel" comment.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 6/6/2007 3:49:24 AM >

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 4:59:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: peepeegirl5

You and the waitress should get together and discuss the horrors of education in the privacy of your own home.

I'm all done with the horrors of education, thank you very much.

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Your DNA screams for validation slave. Without a woman you are nothing.

There's lots of things I'm nothing without. You're not on that list, I'm afraid. And, I'd hate to disappoint you, but I've been arguing with my DNA in the past, and I tend to come out ahead on points, at the very least. KO's, not so much.

If you feel that being a slave is something intrinsic to my nature, you're welcome to drop by and show me any time you decide to go for a vacation in Norway. Can't promise to make it easy, though.

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 5:04:14 AM

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To tell you the truth, it really is the trick. I've been with a fair number of partners (probably more then my fair share! ) and I much prefer a man who is persistent and can take a hint.

Figured as much. About the trick, I mean. I haven't a clue about your partners; that's not my business.

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Shame about the missionary, but from what I hear I'm in the minority of women who prefer it. Ahh well... at least I'm happy in my minority!

I emphatically do not prefer it. The point, though, was not so much as the missionary, as the act itself.

Iatrogenic ED is a bitch, and if I see the doc that caused it again, he might come to learn that first-hand for a few hours after that encounter. Not that I'm advocating stereotypical male violence as a way to resolve conflicts with doctors, of course. Just that I've tried all the other options. (Joking about this, in case it wasn't obvious; in the spirit of there being a bit of toxic testosterone vapour from a certain female forumite and all.)

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 5:07:24 AM

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If you feel that being a slave is something intrinsic to my nature, you're welcome to drop by and show me any time you decide to go for a vacation in Norway. Can't promise to make it easy, though.

....

Comments about about colleges and drivel aside, can I please please please please have front row tickets to that show?

I'll be really good...

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RE: Are there any Dominants who don't care about submis... - 6/6/2007 5:09:26 AM

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Oh Aquatic, I don't think she is doing it carelessly. It seems as though she is working hard at trying to insult & snark her way through the forums .

Yeah, I'm coming to see her as a kind of fixture of sorts.

A kind of mascot, if you will, like the slurp-meister.

Or maybe a stray pet, if one were to reciprocate.

Entertaining enough with a pinch of salt, though.

P.S.: No, I did not intend that last one to sound like a reference to certain other statements I've made in other threads, although it might kind of fit, except for the workup, which she would probably flunk with flying colors.

P.P.S.: Peepee, hope you're not taking this too seriously. I'm just playing with you here.

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