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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 12:22:11 PM   
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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 12:31:19 PM   
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Well here' an idea for the OP, you are going to lose weight or want to lose weight; here's 2 things to begin

First put on some comfortable clothes, running shoes and get your damn ass away from the computer, and walk down to the bookstore and buy yourself a copy of the 'Fat Burning Bible'.  There is valuable information in this book, and a training schedule and meal plans and the whole kit and kaboodle except the ass that needs to just go out and "do it" like Nike says.

You were going to do what you were going to do regardless of what anyone said on this board, I am highly suspect you had some alternative motive for bringing up this topic, that is lame lame lame.  Now get a move on and get making yourself pleasing for that D.

IMO topic threads like these are just dribble for some undertone someone is attempting to make, cause otherwise and if not threads like this are just phkn stupid and prove the stupidity of people.


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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 12:33:44 PM   
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I cant believe this thread is still going on...................................

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 12:38:40 PM   
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Wow...post #264!  People should stop posting about how many posts there are.  Oops!

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 12:39:45 PM   
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hehehehe

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 12:43:09 PM   
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Gosh Domiguy, it's SUCH a pity you live so far away....*rolling eyes*

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 12:44:33 PM   
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Ok i must go as i have things to do. Before i do i would like to say this.

Mixie asked for opinions given the info she gave. From page one her relationship, her dom, and her were dragged through the mud. She asked for  opinions  and advice  not to be a punching bag.

The girl had to resort to defending herself constantly instead of taking in advice and then she gets beat on more for defending herself. Im rather disappointed in how childish this thread as become. Is it so hard to give an opinion without having to insult and disrespect the same people you ask for opinions from in other threads?

People come here to learn various things and to interact with others in the lifestyle. Today we have learned to stereotype people as superficial because their mindset doesnt meet your own. We have learned how to kick and stomp someone asking for opinions from people she shares views with on the regular basis. We have learned how to interact in a verbally abusively  enviroment.

Congratulations, we are now children. school is dismissed.


I have to say, you seem to be taking this entire thread personally, it is not about you.

I also have to say it is very hard to ask people give input, advice, or opinions in a vacuum. If I asked for other perspectives on my situation, I would do so knowing that there are way too many posts to my name for people not to assume things about my relationship and that they would make assumptions based upon the context that 1000s of posts have created. To ask otherwise seems to go against human nature...


Im amazed at how narrow peoples perspectives are.  Your right its not about me and i never made it about me. Why would i make it about me? I interjected my views but i did so respectfully.  mixie asked for advice i gave it.

What i didnt do is start insulting her dom or her relationship or trying to convince her her dom was superficial  or anything else.  like has been going  for the last 12 pages. Others are making it personal.  people are so quick to reply they dont even read what is asked, lil lone think about it. Sometimes i think they are in "google mode" where they pick words out and  base  their reply on that.

Outside my advice, the only thing i did was defend the girl. She asked for advice and was insulted.  She was flamed.  and when she defended herself and got upset she was flamed even more.

Theirs a difference between posting your opinion and  trying to force your opinion on someone  and getting nasty about it when they dont see it your way. Do you see me trying to force my opinion?No. i gave my opinion, it is her decision to take it or not.

Just because she asked for an opinion doesent mean flame me and insult me. IF you cant handle giving an opinion  on something  without getting ignorant and childish and  insulting people and taking it as a personal attack on  your own issues with the problem, you should keep your mouth shut.

She has been with the same D for over a year.  He said  lose 25 pounds and  we can get married and he is also losing weight.  the general consensus ... he is superficial , can his ass. your giving relationship advice, you should think a little before replying. their is a big picture and i highly doubt if he has been with her for 1 year that its superficial.

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 12:45:20 PM   
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Wow I like the diet the OP posted though...

http://www.idiet4u.com/diets/sacredheart.html

If I ate a heavy diet of soup made from broth, beans, onions, carrots, and peppers...

"After being on the diet for several days, you will find that your bowel movements have changed."

Ya, that's an understatement!

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 12:53:23 PM   
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Mix is extremely attractive....I suggest her Dom take a look in the mirror at himself. He's got no business criticizing anyone, especially her. I'd say that on a "physical" level, he certained "bettered" himself. I also don't see where she needs to lose any weight. She's got a lovely figure. However, it's her body and should be her decision...NOT his.

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 1:32:33 PM   
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Hi everyone,

Well I thought I'd weigh in on this (pun intended).

For me, being physically fit is very important.  I work out a lot with highly demanding physical activities such a technical rock climbing, alpine skiing and hiking.  About a year ago my Teacher started actively working on becoming more physically fit and losing some weight.  I weighed in at 165 lbs (at 5ft8) and wearing a size 10 or 12, depending of the item.  I considered myself in pretty decent shape at this point since I carried the fat in a way that didn't make me look like I was carrying too much weight.  I went on a diet that consisted of 10% of calories from fat, 45% from protein and 55% from carbs totalling 1800 calories a day.  I did 45 minutes of aerobic exercise 6 days a week.  In about 12 weeks I lost 23 pounds.  I dropped to a size 6.  My stamina improved, my climbing improved, my energy levels improved and I generally felt better. 

A year later I am still a size 6, still hovering around 145 pounds and sitting with a BMI of about 19. 

One thing I have learned is that the BMI is more important than the actual weight.  Because of the types of exercise I do, I carry a fair bit of muscle.  That means that judging myself purely on weight isn't a good idea.  The amusing part is when someone who hasn't met me suggests that, at 145 pounds I'm "a little pudgy".  Then you nail 'em with a BMI of 19 :)  If they don't know what a BMI is, they're not a match for me anyway :)

Which brings me to my next point.  I have high expectations for my own physical conditioning.  Call me superficial, but I reject potential dominants who are not physically active and who are not in good physical condition.  My benchmark is that I expect them to have a BMI less than or equal to my own.  Not only is overweight unattractive to me, someone who is overweight cannot be a partner to me in the physical activities I enjoy.  As a friend of mine frequently says "If you can't catch me, you can't have me." 

Someone who is in lousy physical shape isn't compatible with me and my lifestyle.  From the perspective of a submissive, I expect my dominant to be in control of themselves.  That includes keeping control of things like their physical condition, if they are addicted to things like tobacco and so on.  I don't expect anything of them that I don't expect of myself.  But I do expect as much of them as I do of myself.  People who don't meet my criteria in terms of how they hold themselves aren't going to be a good fit.  And is part of that physical?  Hell yes.  Call me superficial - that's fine.  But it's important to me and it's not negotiable.

Be well,

Peggy

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 1:42:00 PM   
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greetings peggyo,

the problem is, bmi does not measure how much muscle you have. it simply shows how your weight relates to your height - it takes care of the fact that a lot of people consider 145 to be "pudgy," except that on, say, a 5'8" or 5'10" frame it's not - it's actually low end of normal, if not underweight. but i don't think it's necessary to hail the bmi as the be all end all - someone can be all fat, no muscle and have a low bmi, as long as they are weight/height proportionate.

anyway, your insistence on someone who can keep up with the kind of activities you do is one of the reasons i put my info about chronic illness in big bold letters at the top of my profile...a lot of people wonder why i do that. it's cause i know there are plenty of people out there who would want a slave to run marathons with them, or go rock climbing, or something like that...i can hold my own in normal exercise/physical activity, but all that other stuff just ain't gonna happen. incidentally, that has nothing to do with my weight and everything to do with the fact that i'm in a good deal of physical pain, day in and day out, regardless of how much i weigh.

anyway, i thought your post was really well-written, and it makes a lot of sense to me. i just wanted to point that out about bmi.

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 1:43:24 PM   
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D said He would marry me if i lost 25 lbs... granted


That would be a deal breaker for me but if it works for you two, more power to you.  Be sure you pick an eating  plan that has a lifetime maintenance plan, or chances are you will gain it back and then some when you go off the plan.  You might take a look at the South Beach Diet, and also a book called "Flip the Switch" which teaches you how to keep your metabolism running at a high level. Good luck.

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 1:47:33 PM   
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Peggy, I can understand wanting someone that shares your lifestyle You are quite a bit more active than most folks though.

However, I really doubt that 25lbs is keeping Mixi from doing any of the activities she did before. Heck the 75 extra pounds I have have not changed the activities that *I* do. I still ride horses and barrel race (though I buy bigger horses than I used to )  Now if I was into rock climbing and such, sure it'd be a different story.

The issue here isn't "fat vs thin." I have no problem with people wanting to be fit or wanting a fit partner. My issue comes from the fact that he is playing with her emotions by using the marriage to "bribe" her. THAT is why I called him a "loser", not because of him wanting her to be fit. I simply think it's a low down thing to do to the girl and my gut instinct, from what little I know of the situation, is that he much more concerned with how she looks on his arm than how her health is.

She's a beautiful girl and he ought to consider himself lucky to have her just as she is!


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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 2:05:41 PM   
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I cant believe this thread is still going on...................................


Fat threads always go on for many pages.


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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 2:49:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mixielicous


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<snip>and isnt being on the high end of "normal" health related enough?



That has been my point throughout my posts... more so than the superficial part.

The way you are going about it isn't healthy & in the long run you are only going to create more problems. Stop looking for a fast track... no gimmick diets, no gimmick supplements... no outrageous commercial claims that promise rapid results... all of this crap causes you to boomerang right back & often to a higher weight than you are now.

All it takes is planing out what you eat & when you eat it. Simple changes can give you the results you want.

You mentioned that late night snack... yup, stop that right now. You want to know how you do that effectively.... eat more during the day.

You have to make yourself eat more at earlier times. Load up on foods in the morning & at lunch time when you are most active & then take in smaller amounts as you slow down during the day & then stop completely at least 2 to 4 hours prior to bed time.

You say you are physically active through the day... big deal, we are supposed to be active through the day. What you need to do is get your heart rate up & keep it up for a period of no less than 30 minutes at a time. Be it walking, running, jogging, stair climbing, rowing a boat.... whatever it is... you have to get your heart rate up & maintain it consistently for 30 minutes in order to produce desired results.

You seem motivated & you say you spent all this time reading from a forum.... why not do the right thing & contact a nutritionist or someone who is professionally trained rather than frustrate yourself with all of these ridiculous quick fix gimmicks & hearsay diets. Our bodies are as unique as our personalities & what works for one person may not & most likely won't work for another. These professionals will determine your metabolism rate.

You say you'll come back & tell us about your water diet... I challenge you to contact a professional & come back to tell us what they tell you. I'll bet you a lot of what I just said will sound familiar. I did this a number of years ago & learned so much. I'm only trying to pass along a little info so that it will save you from the frustrations of trying out one gimmick after another.

I'm a person who prefers to maintain a weight on that higher side of the norm because its where I'm most comfortable. As the year goes by I naturally dip to the lower end of the norm. I eat healthy. My blood levels are perfect. My blood pressure is perfect. I have a high muscular density because of the type of work I do & because I did body building when I was younger.

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well i guess you still havent read the diet

it is NOT a water diet

NOT NOT NOT even close!



This 7-day eating plan can be used as often as you like. If correctly followed, it will clean out your system of impurities and give you a feeling of well-being. After only 7 days of this process, you will begin to feel lighter by at least 10 pounds and possibly 17 pounds, and experience an abundance of energy.

SOUP:

* 1 or 2 cans of stewed tomatoes
* 3 plus large green onions
* 1 large can of beef broth (no fat)
* 1 pkg. Lipton Soup mix (chicken noodle)
* 1 bunch of celery
* 2 cans green beans
* 2 lbs. Carrots
* 2 Green Peppers

Season with salt, pepper curry, parsley, if desired, or bouillon, hot or Worcestershire sauce. Cut veggies in small to medium pieces. Cover with water. Boil fast for 10 minutes. Reduce to simmer and continue to cook until veggies are tender.

This soup can be eaten anytime you are hungry during the week. Eat as much as you want, whenever you want. This soup will not add calories. The more you eat, the more you will lose. You may want to fill a thermos in the morning if you will be away during the day.

DRINKS:

* Unsweetened juices
* Tea (also herbal)
* Coffee
* Cranberry juice
* Skim milk
* Water, water, water

DAY ONE
Any fruit (except bananas). Cantaloupes and watermelon are lower in calories than most other fruits. Eat only soup and fruit today.

DAY TWO
All vegetables. Eat until you are stuffed with fresh raw, cooked or canned veggies. Try to eat green leafy veggies and stay away from dry beans, peas or corn. Eat veggies along with the soup. At dinnertime tonight reward yourself with a big baked potato and butter. Don't eat any fruits through today.

DAY THREE
Eat all the soup, fruit and veggies you want. Do not have a baked potato. If you have eaten as above for three days and not cheated, you should find that you have lost 5-7 pounds.

DAY FOUR
Bananas and skim milk: Eat at least 3 bananas and drink as much milk as you can today, along with the soup. Bananas are high in calories and carbohydrates, as is the milk but on this particular day, your body will need the potassium and carbs. Proteins and calcium to lessen the cravings for sweets.

DAY FIVE
Beef and tomatoes: you may have 10 to 20 ounces of beef and a can of tomatoes, or as many as 6 tomatoes on this day. Eat the soup at least once today.

DAY SIX
Beef and veggies, eat to your heart's content of the beef and veggies today. You can even have 2-3 steaks if you like with green leafy veggies but no baked potato. Be sure to eat the soup at least once today.

DAY SEVEN
Brown rice, unsweetened fruit juice and veggies, again, be sure to stuff yourself and eat the soup. You can add cooked veggies to your rice if you wish.

By the end of the 7th day, if you have not cheated on this diet, you should have lost 10 to 17 pounds. If you have lost more than 17 pounds, stay off the diet for two days before resuming the diet again.

This diet is fast. The secret lies within the principle that you will burn more calories than you take in. It will flush your system of impurities and give you a feeling of well-being. This diet does not lend itself to drinking any alcoholic beverages at any time. Because of the fat build-up in your system. Go off the diet at least 14 hours before any intake of alcohol.

Due to the variety of digestive systems in individuals, this diet will affect everyone differently. After day three, you will have more energy than when you began, if you do not cheat. After being on the diet for several days, you will find that your bowel movements have changed. Eat a cup of bran or fiber. Although you can have black coffee with this diet, you may find that you don't need caffeine after the third day.

The basic fat burning soup can be eaten anytime you feel hungry during the seven days. Eat as much as you wish. Remember the more you eat, the more you will lose. You can eat broiled, boiled or baked chicken instead of the beef. Absolutely no skin on the chicken. If you prefer, you can substitute broiled fish for the beef on only one of the beef days. You need the high protein in the beef for the other days.

Continue on the diet as long as you wish and feel the difference both mentally and physically.

DO NOT - DO NOT
No bread, alcohol, carbonated drinks (including diet drinks). Remember, absolutely no fried foods.

DO - DO - DO - DO
Drink plenty - at least 6 to 8 glasses - of water a day, as well as any combination of the following beverages: black coffee, unsweetened fruit drinks, cranberry juice and skim milk.

This diet comes from the Sacred Heart Memorial Hospital that is used for overweight heart patients in order to lose weight rapidly, usually prior to surgery.





Just as an added note.............do whatever the fuck you want. It is your life, your body, your D. We are just names on a screen with opinions. Like grand dad used to say, opinions are like assholes we all have one.

Now regarding this particular diet. 10 years ago I was a nice perfect weight for my height. I had to be in a wedding in a skin tight dress. I had a slightly distorted view of my body and thought I needed to loose a few to look better in that dress. I found this exact same diet and tried it. I lost the 15 lbs, looked great in the dress......then proceeded to begin gaining weight like I never EVER had before. That diet totally fucked up my metabolism. I have been fighting a battle with weight since.


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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 3:13:26 PM   
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let's see... your Dom is 'ordering' you to so something you desire for yourself anyway....... hmmm how evil of him.. lol

i sense from your words that this is part of the dynamics that has worked for you two for a year now, so its not the insult some here might deem it to be.  Enourage each other to better health with ample rewards to both... i envy your relationship!

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 3:19:25 PM   
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LaTigresse, yes it is another insta fix like the 'cabbage soup diet' , the 'banana diet' to name a few.  Good health is all about balance, balance in activity, balance in diet, etc etc.  And people don't call personal looks superficial in the least, but if there was no advertizing, no such thing as a super model, or fashion designer I wonder just how pertinent all this superficial stuffing would be.  No no I stand corrected vanity is not superficial, it is matter of fact.

I totally understand someone wanting to take the effort to look after the whole of themselves, but when it comes a time that it is for other reasons it sounds like short term solutions to what some might hope to be longterm realizations.  For PeggyO I can understand, she is very active and known to be active hence to have someone not atleast her equal in this respect would not be a good match for her.  For anyone having someone less than than their equal I probably would question however that is something each person has to ask themselves, what is good for me and what do I need to sustain a healthy existence.  If we are incapable of looking after our own selves how in the world can we even consider tendering our care to another.

Quick fixes are just that though, they are only fast solutions that in fact do come back to bite girls in the end.  Weight loss is a longterm commitment that will take a lifetime, it is changing behaviours and many of them in there intrity to achieve goals.  The older we get that harder it is due to stubborness, procrastination, and the plain fact our bodies begin to function like they are old (for lack of proper wording on our ailments starting to catchup with us).

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 3:32:40 PM   
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Hmmm... Interesting. Would I require weight loss before a formal proposal? Nooo, probably not. Would I, as JuliaOceana's D did, gently bring it up and discuss possible health issues? sure.

Weight though, as a number... ehhh thats iffy. My reccomendation would maybe be to look at inches, or clothing sizes. I've weighed in at as much as 175lbs (5'4) and still had a 27" waist, simply because my body fat percentage was so low. I've also weighed in at 145 and been flabby in a size 12. Meh. So therefore if you say " I want to be able to wear a size 6 wedding dress," you should look at hoe many inches you have to lose. you may very well stay at the same weight, lose very little, or even gain a few lbs as your body converts fat to muscle.

As for the diet, I would only caution you to remember that hospitals will use drastic weight loss measures to get "morbidly" obese patients ready for surgery, that should NEVER be used outside a hospital setting. These are patients that are facing death if hey dont get 30ls off  *right now.* These patients are also being moitored around the clock, and are subject to a very very strict regime after surgery to prevent yo-yo-ing. Feel free to email me on "the other side" if you'd like a couple diet and workout tips.. I used to be a competitive wrestler and wrestling coach... I still remember a couple things about cutting weight.

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 3:46:31 PM   
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well, i keep trying to read to the end before i post again but that seems to be impossible.  i have a question for all of you that are taking this so seriously.  so He thinks she needs to lose weight; we have no real idea why he thinks that.  His motives could be quite lofty;  her health perhaps, personal experience on how hard it is to lose once you've been carrying the weight for a while?  we really don't know.  i took mixie's initial post as a somewhat light hearted attempt to get some support to lose weight.  a goal that is think is quite prevalent among women. you know one of the best ways to meet a weight losss goal is to tell peopel you interact with about it.   i never took it as I WON'T MARRY YOU CAUSE YOU'RE FAT. 

so why did you ? 
i have read other posts by mixie.  she's often 'tongue in cheek' so why did you take this particular post so literally? 

i also have gotten the feeling  she strives to be the best mixie (and consequently slave/sub) that she can be.  her motivation is often to please her Master.  so why not have what is already a strong motivator for her help her to do this (as many of you have pointed out) difficult task.  shouldn't she use the best tools at her disposal? 

lastly what should her Master have used as a motivator?   

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 3:50:38 PM   
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I guess you saw my reply to that LaTigresse:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_984494/mpage_8/key_/tm.htm

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nope, I think it is best that I keep my yap shut on the rest I cut out.

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