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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:42:16 AM   
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Because Mixi, that's not what happened. You didn't take it upon yourself to do and then get a surpise reward. He told you that he would marry you only if you did it. THAT's the part that bothers me. He's making a very nit picky trivial condition to be placed upon a very serious institution.

Had the scenario you described occured, that would be different. It would also be different had he pulled you aside and said, "I know you are uncomfortable about your weight and I love you and am concerned as well..what can I do to help you with your diet?"

But to dangle "the wedding carrot" is just wrong.


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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:42:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mixielicous
 <snip>and isnt being on the high end of "normal" health related enough?



That has been my point throughout my posts... more so than the superficial part.

The way you are going about it isn't healthy & in the long run you are only going to create more problems. Stop looking for a fast track... no gimmick diets, no gimmick supplements... no outrageous commercial claims that promise rapid results... all of this crap causes you to boomerang right back & often to a higher weight than you are now.

All it takes is planing out what you eat & when you eat it. Simple changes can give you the results you want.

You mentioned that late night snack... yup, stop that right now. You want to know how you do that effectively.... eat more during the day.

You have to make yourself eat more at earlier times. Load up on foods in the morning & at lunch time when you are most active & then take in smaller amounts as you slow down during the day & then stop completely at least 2 to 4 hours prior to bed time.

You say you are physically active through the day... big deal, we are supposed to be active through the day. What you need to do is get your heart rate up & keep it up for a period of no less than 30 minutes at a time. Be it walking, running, jogging, stair climbing, rowing a boat.... whatever it is... you have to get your heart rate up & maintain it consistently for 30 minutes in order to produce desired results.

You seem motivated & you say you spent all this time reading from a forum.... why not do the right thing & contact a nutritionist or someone who is professionally trained rather than frustrate yourself with all of these ridiculous quick fix gimmicks & hearsay diets. Our bodies are as unique as our personalities & what works for one person may not & most likely won't work for another. These professionals will determine your metabolism rate.

You say you'll come back & tell us about your water diet... I challenge you to contact a professional & come back to tell us what they tell you. I'll bet you a lot of what I just said will sound familiar. I did this a number of years ago & learned so much. I'm only trying to pass along a little info so that it will save you from the frustrations of trying out one gimmick after another.

I'm a person who prefers to maintain a weight on that higher side of the norm because its where I'm most comfortable. As the year goes by I naturally dip to the lower end of the norm. I eat healthy. My blood levels are perfect. My blood pressure is perfect. I have a high muscular density because of the type of work I do & because I did body building when I was younger.

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:42:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

Why is it shallow and superficial to want the one you love to look good and be healthy?


Because looks fade and health fades. Only personality LASTS.



That's a cop out.


I agree...a cop out. Looks, health, AND personality can fade.......
I beleive that "That Fading" is a choice. And one that I will fight on ALL levels.

i completely agree!

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:45:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

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ORIGINAL: mixielicous
<snip>and isnt being on the high end of "normal" health related enough?



That has been my point throughout my posts... more so than the superficial part.

The way you are going about it isn't healthy & in the long run you are only going to create more problems. Stop looking for a fast track... no gimmick diets, no gimmick supplements... no outrageous commercial claims that promise rapid results... all of this crap causes you to boomerang right back & often to a higher weight than you are now.

All it takes is planing out what you eat & when you eat it. Simple changes can give you the results you want.

You mentioned that late night snack... yup, stop that right now. You want to know how you do that effectively.... eat more during the day.

You have to make yourself eat more at earlier times. Load up on foods in the morning & at lunch time when you are most active & then take in smaller amounts as you slow down during the day & then stop completely at least 2 to 4 hours prior to bed time.

You say you are physically active through the day... big deal, we are supposed to be active through the day. What you need to do is get your heart rate up & keep it up for a period of no less than 30 minutes at a time. Be it walking, running, jogging, stair climbing, rowing a boat.... whatever it is... you have to get your heart rate up & maintain it consistently for 30 minutes in order to produce desired results.

You seem motivated & you say you spent all this time reading from a forum.... why not do the right thing & contact a nutritionist or someone who is professionally trained rather than frustrate yourself with all of these ridiculous quick fix gimmicks & hearsay diets. Our bodies are as unique as our personalities & what works for one person may not & most likely won't work for another. These professionals will determine your metabolism rate.

You say you'll come back & tell us about your water diet... I challenge you to contact a professional & come back to tell us what they tell you. I'll bet you a lot of what I just said will sound familiar. I did this a number of years ago & learned so much. I'm only trying to pass along a little info so that it will save you from the frustrations of trying out one gimmick after another.

I'm a person who prefers to maintain a weight on that higher side of the norm because its where I'm most comfortable. As the year goes by I naturally dip to the lower end of the norm. I eat healthy. My blood levels are perfect. My blood pressure is perfect. I have a high muscular density because of the type of work I do & because I did body building when I was younger.

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well i guess you still havent read the diet

it is NOT a water diet

NOT NOT NOT even close!



This 7-day eating plan can be used as often as you like. If correctly followed, it will clean out your system of impurities and give you a feeling of well-being. After only 7 days of this process, you will begin to feel lighter by at least 10 pounds and possibly 17 pounds, and experience an abundance of energy.

SOUP:

* 1 or 2 cans of stewed tomatoes
* 3 plus large green onions
* 1 large can of beef broth (no fat)
* 1 pkg. Lipton Soup mix (chicken noodle)
* 1 bunch of celery
* 2 cans green beans
* 2 lbs. Carrots
* 2 Green Peppers

Season with salt, pepper curry, parsley, if desired, or bouillon, hot or Worcestershire sauce. Cut veggies in small to medium pieces. Cover with water. Boil fast for 10 minutes. Reduce to simmer and continue to cook until veggies are tender.

This soup can be eaten anytime you are hungry during the week. Eat as much as you want, whenever you want. This soup will not add calories. The more you eat, the more you will lose. You may want to fill a thermos in the morning if you will be away during the day.

DRINKS:

* Unsweetened juices
* Tea (also herbal)
* Coffee
* Cranberry juice
* Skim milk
* Water, water, water

DAY ONE
Any fruit (except bananas). Cantaloupes and watermelon are lower in calories than most other fruits. Eat only soup and fruit today.

DAY TWO
All vegetables. Eat until you are stuffed with fresh raw, cooked or canned veggies. Try to eat green leafy veggies and stay away from dry beans, peas or corn. Eat veggies along with the soup. At dinnertime tonight reward yourself with a big baked potato and butter. Don't eat any fruits through today.

DAY THREE
Eat all the soup, fruit and veggies you want. Do not have a baked potato. If you have eaten as above for three days and not cheated, you should find that you have lost 5-7 pounds.

DAY FOUR
Bananas and skim milk: Eat at least 3 bananas and drink as much milk as you can today, along with the soup. Bananas are high in calories and carbohydrates, as is the milk but on this particular day, your body will need the potassium and carbs. Proteins and calcium to lessen the cravings for sweets.

DAY FIVE
Beef and tomatoes: you may have 10 to 20 ounces of beef and a can of tomatoes, or as many as 6 tomatoes on this day. Eat the soup at least once today.

DAY SIX
Beef and veggies, eat to your heart's content of the beef and veggies today. You can even have 2-3 steaks if you like with green leafy veggies but no baked potato. Be sure to eat the soup at least once today.

DAY SEVEN
Brown rice, unsweetened fruit juice and veggies, again, be sure to stuff yourself and eat the soup. You can add cooked veggies to your rice if you wish.

By the end of the 7th day, if you have not cheated on this diet, you should have lost 10 to 17 pounds. If you have lost more than 17 pounds, stay off the diet for two days before resuming the diet again.

This diet is fast. The secret lies within the principle that you will burn more calories than you take in. It will flush your system of impurities and give you a feeling of well-being. This diet does not lend itself to drinking any alcoholic beverages at any time. Because of the fat build-up in your system. Go off the diet at least 14 hours before any intake of alcohol.

Due to the variety of digestive systems in individuals, this diet will affect everyone differently. After day three, you will have more energy than when you began, if you do not cheat. After being on the diet for several days, you will find that your bowel movements have changed. Eat a cup of bran or fiber. Although you can have black coffee with this diet, you may find that you don't need caffeine after the third day.

The basic fat burning soup can be eaten anytime you feel hungry during the seven days. Eat as much as you wish. Remember the more you eat, the more you will lose. You can eat broiled, boiled or baked chicken instead of the beef. Absolutely no skin on the chicken. If you prefer, you can substitute broiled fish for the beef on only one of the beef days. You need the high protein in the beef for the other days.

Continue on the diet as long as you wish and feel the difference both mentally and physically.

DO NOT - DO NOT
No bread, alcohol, carbonated drinks (including diet drinks). Remember, absolutely no fried foods.

DO - DO - DO - DO
Drink plenty - at least 6 to 8 glasses - of water a day, as well as any combination of the following beverages: black coffee, unsweetened fruit drinks, cranberry juice and skim milk.

This diet comes from the Sacred Heart Memorial Hospital that is used for overweight heart patients in order to lose weight rapidly, usually prior to surgery.




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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:46:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

Because Mixi, that's not what happened. You didn't take it upon yourself to do and then get a surpise reward. He told you that he would marry you only if you did it. THAT's the part that bothers me. He's making a very nit picky trivial condition to be placed upon a very serious institution.

Had the scenario you described occured, that would be different. It would also be different had he pulled you aside and said, "I know you are uncomfortable about your weight and I love you and am concerned as well..what can I do to help you with your diet?"

But to dangle "the wedding carrot" is just wrong.



Thank you! At least someone gets it!

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:49:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

Because Mixi, that's not what happened. You didn't take it upon yourself to do and then get a surpise reward. He told you that he would marry you only if you did it. THAT's the part that bothers me. He's making a very nit picky trivial condition to be placed upon a very serious institution.

Had the scenario you described occured, that would be different. It would also be different had he pulled you aside and said, "I know you are uncomfortable about your weight and I love you and am concerned as well..what can I do to help you with your diet?"

But to dangle "the wedding carrot" is just wrong.


in fact, i have been trying for months to lose the weight. but its cool if you jump to conclusions, the internet is good for that!

and well, it may be a life time commitment [marriage] i dont think the "seriousness" of it really brings it home for me, being born and raised agnostic, sorry.


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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:49:22 AM   
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as another had said, marriage is not a reward but a committment. whether you're skinny as a toothpick or 300lbs bbw, he should love you as you are and in my opinion not dangle the wedding ring as a way to motivate weight loss for that perfect trophy wife. will he still love or divorce you when you're 30lbs overweight during pregnancy and after childbirth? young or not - these are things you have to seriously think about - marriage isn't a game ...it's the real deal ...a committment for life.

to each his/her own ...good luck with the choices you've made. at least the guy i'm dating doesn't expect me to change to gain his wedding ring - see that's the difference between you and me.




is it really too much to ask for Him to want me, not to change, but change for a SECOND time, back to the girl He fell in love with? not that horrific IMO


huh?   is he asking you not to change but change  OR is he asking you to change but not to change? 

which is it?  you cannot have it both ways.

so if you lose 25 lbs, he's falling in love again with the girl she was when he first met her.  hmmm - doesn't sound like he loves you unconditionally to me ...more of a superfacial kind of love.

i'll only love you if you return to that size when we first met, then i'll marry you  - that's a condition and promise of marriage based on your weight ...that's not love, imo.

if he cannot accept your size/weight as you are now, he probably won't when you reach my age and weight after 2 UMs.


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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:49:23 AM   
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The idea of starting with the liquid diet is not a good one. Instead, figure out what you eat in a single day, how many calories you are taking in ( or a close apprx ); CHANGE your eating habits, and begin a healthy excercise regime.
 
30 to 45 minutes a day of cardio is the best way to jump start your metabolism.
 
As someone else mentioned also; throw away the bathroom scale. It's of no use to you. Instead, invest in a tape measure and keep track of inches that you lose; not weight. If you go by weight alone, you will be disappointed and may lose the motivation to keep going.
 
Most importantly though is get advice from a doctor or a nutrition expert; and not from one that you find online
 
As to the rest; I see nothing wrong in what he is asking her to do. It's obvious that she is not happy with her own appearance and if this motivates her to change that, more power to the both of them.
 
Good luck Mixie

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:51:11 AM   
mixielicous


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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

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ORIGINAL: mixielicous


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ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

as another had said, marriage is not a reward but a committment. whether you're skinny as a toothpick or 300lbs bbw, he should love you as you are and in my opinion not dangle the wedding ring as a way to motivate weight loss for that perfect trophy wife. will he still love or divorce you when you're 30lbs overweight during pregnancy and after childbirth? young or not - these are things you have to seriously think about - marriage isn't a game ...it's the real deal ...a committment for life.

to each his/her own ...good luck with the choices you've made. at least the guy i'm dating doesn't expect me to change to gain his wedding ring - see that's the difference between you and me.




is it really too much to ask for Him to want me, not to change, but change for a SECOND time, back to the girl He fell in love with? not that horrific IMO


huh? is he asking you not to change but change OR is he asking you to change but not to change?

which is it? you cannot have it both ways.

so if you lose 25 lbs, he's falling in love again with the girl she was when he first met her. hmmm - doesn't sound like he loves you unconditionally to me ...more of a superfacial kind of love.

i'll only love you if you return to that size when we first met, then i'll marry you - that's a condition and promise of marriage based on your weight ...that's not love, imo.

if he cannot accept your size/weight as you are now, he probably won't when you reach my age and weight after 2 UMs.


my point is, why should He have to settle when He knows i can be better? for us, thats what our M/s is about, bringing out the potentially best me, and i apologize that that just so happens to be a more skinny me.

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:51:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

Because Mixi, that's not what happened. You didn't take it upon yourself to do and then get a surpise reward. He told you that he would marry you only if you did it. THAT's the part that bothers me. He's making a very nit picky trivial condition to be placed upon a very serious institution.

Had the scenario you described occured, that would be different. It would also be different had he pulled you aside and said, "I know you are uncomfortable about your weight and I love you and am concerned as well..what can I do to help you with your diet?"

But to dangle "the wedding carrot" is just wrong.


in fact, i have been trying for months to lose the weight. but its cool if you jump to conclusions, the internet is good for that!

and well, it may be a life time commitment [marriage] i dont think the "seriousness" of it really brings it home for me, being born and raised agnostic, sorry.



I was born and raised agnostic too. What does that have to do with anything?

And you're the one who said he was dangling the wedding carrot! Regardless of how long YOU have been trying to lose, it was wrong of him to "use" the wedding as a motivator.


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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:54:57 AM   
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Ive seen alot of comments  protesting the task given by mixie's D. Some of which were downright insulting. It is of my opinion that some of the posters may let their own issues or insecurity about weight  affect the question that was asked.

Lets look at the facts:
1) mixie has been  in a relationship with her D for over a year.
2) Apparently it is a stong and healthy relationship because they are discussing marriage.
3) mixie's D is also losing some unwanted weight. 
4)This is a D/s relationship not a vanilla one. Different game different rules. You cant judge a D saying  lose 25 lbs and ill lose some with you before ill marry you as being  superficial or shallow. Doms set task and give rewards. This is a task, marriage is a reward.

IMO, it isnt  about losing  25 lbs. for superficial reasons. Apparently mixie's D WANTS to marry her or he would just say no or give an impossible goal for her to reach before doing such. Furthermore, getting married isnt something most men take lightly, because getting divorced usually gets us the very short end of the stick. So he probably has already pondered the question, at great length, "Do i want to spend the rest of my life with this girl?"

I think the weight task is for two reason.:
1)devotion. if your dom tells you to drop 25 pounds would you? and i dont mean just in a roundabout  sugar coated  hintful way. I mean if your Dom says "i want you to slim down lose 25 pounds in the next ***" would you? IF mixie says " ill do that for you without getting all offended and feeling like your being superficial " Then you know she is not only devoted but secure.  So   you have to ask yourself..." would you drop 25 pounds for you dom if told too? Or would you tell him to piss off? If the latter i think you should reconsider the depths of your submission, cause IMO your not giving your all.
2) I think   mixies D  has a long term concern for both the health of his slave and Him.  He wants them both to stay healthy, so they can enjoy their relationship even longer. He is merely putting gaining weight in check because he sees  both of them gaining weight. And it is easier to lose 25 pounds than 125 pounds  2 years down the road  when you are already set in your lifestyle that is causing you to gain it. He sees a problem for both of them and is nipping it in the bud before it gets out of hand for both of them.

As for the reward  of marriage. I think this is something he wants to do. But he feels its important that is able to manage their health. Marriage is something most dont take lightly, but neither should be your  health. And i think in a way  this  task and reward  go togather. The task is important and the reward is important.  Because the reward is important to him and her, the important  and often hard task  will be alot more likely to succeed.


On a side note:  While their are many different opinions about submission and slavery.  I am in the belief a slave should be pleasing. And most i think would agree  with me.  Subs and slaves talk about wanting to please a master/owner/dom. But when it comes right down to it  many give fine print on how they want to please. A slave of mine will please me  in anyway i tell her too., including losing 25 pounds. IF she does not? if she refuses? then she is only willing to please me under certain conditions. To me this isnt giving yourself.  This is giving parts of you  that are convient for you.  Granted people have hard limits. Things that make this sick or just plain  scares them to death. and that is fine. But i think alot of subs bring normal everyday things into things they will not do, just because its an inconvience to them.

On that note, again in my opinion, slaves should be pleasing in all ways, that includes pleasing to the eye. They should not only try to be as sexually appealing and pretty as they can be but they should want to be that way for their M/O/D. So why is it so many are eager to please when their legs are apart but have  hestitations about sliming down a bit to look even sexier? perhaps its the opposite. perhaps the subs are so antisuperficial, they refuse to change their appearence because  they will then feel like their dom is being superficial. When in fact, they should be trying to  be the most pleasing sub/slave that dom has ever collared. It makes you wonder... who IS the guilty party? The Dom for wanting the sub/slave to looks as sexy and beautiful as she can? Or the sub/slave for refusing to( and often getting offended)  make herself more  sexually appealing?

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:54:58 AM   
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mixielicious,

Unlike others I am not going to give you or your owner any shit about his decision,
Whatever his reason is for the weight he wants you at... so be it! I do not want someone that is 114 lbs. because that is too skinny to me so I can certainly see how someone else may want someone that size, especially if you were that size when you got together. Regardless of what others have stated... your owner has the right to set his own rules and he stated well before you two got together what he expected! If he was such an unreasonable person that would kick you to the curb if you gained a pound... he would have done that 24 lbs ago!!! Not everyone gets fat when they get older... I know lots of older people that are not fat by any means so to assume you will is a defeatist attitude to me lol You do not have to be fat! You can be healthy and the weight that looks best on you! What I would suggest is that you talk to your owner and ask him to be a more active part in your health and weight loss, in the sense, of actively guiding you and supporting you on a daily basis. Having his guidance and support during reaching your goal will not only help you but it will help him bond himself to you even further. No matter how this is handled, I wish you the very best!

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:55:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

Because Mixi, that's not what happened. You didn't take it upon yourself to do and then get a surpise reward. He told you that he would marry you only if you did it. THAT's the part that bothers me. He's making a very nit picky trivial condition to be placed upon a very serious institution.

Had the scenario you described occured, that would be different. It would also be different had he pulled you aside and said, "I know you are uncomfortable about your weight and I love you and am concerned as well..what can I do to help you with your diet?"

But to dangle "the wedding carrot" is just wrong.


in fact, i have been trying for months to lose the weight. but its cool if you jump to conclusions, the internet is good for that!

and well, it may be a life time commitment [marriage] i dont think the "seriousness" of it really brings it home for me, being born and raised agnostic, sorry.



I was born and raised agnostic too. What does that have to do with anything?

And you're the one who said he was dangling the wedding carrot! Regardless of how long YOU have been trying to lose, it was wrong of him to "use" the wedding as a motivator.


ok i didnt use the carrot word but thats ok. and if its something we have already been discussing, i dont see why getting me to lose weight is such an awful request. these are BOTH things that have been on the plate for months now, why can they not go hand in hand?

sorry, most people who dote on the sanctity of marriage are usually religious and for me marriage is usually less meaningful, other that the devotion it symbolizes.


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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:55:45 AM   
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She brought it into the forum and like you she will have to hear the comments. Maybe you should read her past posts before being the all knowing. Being obedient and being bribed are different. Master asks me to do things for myself not to bribe me. Yes I am fat but I am also happy. I have lost weight but not because I was promised a marriage. I have that. So read the past before you put your ass on the line. I am not bitter just have been in this lifestyle 12 years and am realistic. I am all for being healthy just not for dangling a carrot in front of someone. Beauty is a subjective opinion. It is different for everyone.


Yes, it's subjective for everyone ... in THIS case, it's HER and her D's opinion that matter.  Just because you found someone who likes fat women doesn't mean they have to like it.
 
You are all insisting that she change her opinion of herself and her D to what YOU want/think/like.  No one said you have to like her or her life choices.
 
Ever read the fable of the fox and the grapes?  Because an awful lot of you sound like that fox right now.
 
Personally, i agree with her ... Master is 12 years younger than i and a personal trainer to boot.  He ran marathons as a younger man, spent 18 years in the Marine Corps and is in top physical condition; makes me (and every other woman in the room) drool everytime He walks into it.  If you all think that i'm going to settle for less just because you have, you've got another think coming.
 
Bring it on cause you know what? i don't have to read anything you write .. vent away, oh bitter BBW.
 
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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:55:55 AM   
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Oh great... another weight thread.

Weight thread: 100+ responses in less than two hours.

World issue thread: Only a tiny fraction of responses.  

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 7:59:15 AM   
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I suppose i do not understand....

I gained about 20 lbs in the first 6 months that we were dating each other. My routine had changed, and it was hard to continue going to the gym. I used to run 6 miles a day.

He was disturbed by my weight gain, not for just superficial reasons, but because he was concerned about my health. I am at the age where I could easily develop all sorts of problems if I gained too much weight. I lost energy, and he was concerned about diabetes (it runs in my family and I love sugar). He did not "order" it, but he gently brought the subject up. I went on South Beach, I have went off it at times, and went back on it because of my energy levels. Losing weight is a nice side benefit too.

He wants to buy me clothes, but I keep putting it off until I lose weight, so this is almost like a reward... But I have to say, if he said he would not commit to me because of my weight I would not be with him. But that is just me. In this life I know that people get into accidents, they have illnesses, they age... I suppose I am getting to the age in which I want a life companion. I would feel as though I was not good enough, and anyone that makes me feel not good enough is not good enough for me.. but that is just me.

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 8:02:07 AM   
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slave trainer, thank you so much. i whole heartedly agree with your M/s ideology, and i think that is why so many women are disagreeing with me. it is not enough to be pure of heart in terms of desire for devotion, pampering & pleasing. IMO a slave who is the best that she can be mind, BODY, and soul [which is within my contract even] is the best slave of them all. and that includes aesthetically. you dont have to be beautiful, but yes you should be within wight range, or at least trying, keep yourself clean and proper, do your nails, get your hair done... but for me, thats what being a slave means. to be the best possible. and the fact that His request IMO is quite reasonable i embrace it and the fact that i am rewarded at all, is a pleasant surprise.

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 8:03:02 AM   
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quote:

On a side note:  While their are many different opinions about submission and slavery.  I am in the belief a slave should be pleasing. And most i think would agree  with me.  Subs and slaves talk about wanting to please a master/owner/dom. But when it comes right down to it  many give fine print on how they want to please. A slave of mine will please me  in anyway i tell her too., including losing 25 pounds. IF she does not? if she refuses? then she is only willing to please me under certain conditions. To me this isnt giving yourself.  This is giving parts of you  that are convient for you.  Granted people have hard limits. Things that make this sick or just plain  scares them to death. and that is fine. But i think alot of subs bring normal everyday things into things they will not do, just because its an inconvience to them.



There is a difference between submission and slavery. A slave should do whatever she is told. A submissive has more rights than that. As a submissive/bottom, I have LOTS of everyday things I wouldn't do for my dom. I wouldn't cut my hair short. I wouldn't move from my home. I wouldn't change careers. I wouldn't give up one of my pets. I wouldn't stop hanging out with my friends, etc.

I'm upfront about those things when I deal with someone. I don't have a problem with my dominant trying to help me lose weight, as weight loss is a goal of mine for the reasons I mentioned above. If Mixi and her D want to lose weight for their health, that's GREAT. My entire objection is to bringing weight (a superficial concern when you're only dealing with 25lbs) into a discussion of something serious ie marriage.


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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 8:04:42 AM   
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I purposely waited to respond till after reading what others have said.....so here's my intake on this.

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ORIGINAL: mixielicous
D said He would marry me if i lost 25 lbs
 
Hun, unless this was something previously discussed BEFORE talking marriage, I would see this as a caution sign. Let's say you do loose the weight he's asked.....two years down the road you get pregnate, your going to gain more than 25lbs dear. Is he still going to love you for you and still want to remain married, or will he say you've gained the weight back, it's time to go?

[and no it was not a joke or teasing on His behalf]
the ideal trophy slave should weigh 119 ha

This to me would be another caution sign. You are a human hun, not a trophy.

D's out there: would you require something like this from your slave, before even formally proposing?

No, I wouldn't. I see people from the inside, not what shows on the outside. Looks aren't that important to me. True, I wouldn't want someone who looked like a slob, but then again...even slobs can be fixed up to look like class.

i dont mind, its a great motivation to finally get on that diet!

Motivations are great, so long as that's all this really is. Reading your words, I can tell that you do love D and you feel his feelings are mutual. Go with that for now. But I would suggest talking with him further on the idea of, and I know you don't care for the term..."What if" What his reaction would be if after marriage you gain back weight.


Let me ask you this....were you trying to loose weight before meeting D or was this something brought on after he collared you and gave his view on it? Don't get me wrong, I can see by your words that you really want to loose weight, and that's a good thing. But are you now honestly trying to loose for the right reasons? Sorry hun, but I have to agree on the fact of him dangling the ring is not a good thing. He should love and want to marry you regardless of wether you weight 119 or 319. Your size isn't what makes you, you are what made up by your charactor, personallity...stuff from inside.
 
Either way....best of luck to you on your goal to loose weight and hopefully you journey into becoming one with D.
 
 

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RE: 25 lbs? - 4/29/2007 8:05:21 AM   
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mixielicious,

Unlike others I am not going to give you or your owner any shit about his decision,
Whatever his reason is for the weight he wants you at... so be it! I do not want someone that is 114 lbs. because that is too skinny to me so I can certainly see how someone else may want someone that size, especially if you were that size when you got together. Regardless of what others have stated... your owner has the right to set his own rules and he stated well before you two got together what he expected! If he was such an unreasonable person that would kick you to the curb if you gained a pound... he would have done that 24 lbs ago!!! Not everyone gets fat when they get older... I know lots of older people that are not fat by any means so to assume you will is a defeatist attitude to me lol You do not have to be fat! You can be healthy and the weight that looks best on you! What I would suggest is that you talk to your owner and ask him to be a more active part in your health and weight loss, in the sense, of actively guiding you and supporting you on a daily basis. Having his guidance and support during reaching your goal will not only help you but it will help him bond himself to you even further. No matter how this is handled, I wish you the very best!

Tigress~FL

you bring up a good point, the importance His role, motivation and encouragement will play and how in fact it will undoubtedly bring us closer.

your statement also makes me think, M/s/D/s has sooo so so sso many different requirement, constraints, prerequisites etc, some much more weird, strange, nasty, rude than just weight. its shocking that requiring a good physical physique is so out of line.


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