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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 6:51:11 PM

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I quoted people... now you can interpret that anyway you like... We tend to see the world the way we are... and you are showing how right those words are.

Why don't you step out from behind the ambiguities and tell me how I see the world? You don't know a damned thing about me.

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 6:52:09 PM

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More freakiness from Pat Robertson

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CNN) -- Television evangelist Pat Robertson suggested Thursday that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's stroke was divine retribution for the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, which Robertson opposed.

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 6:52:29 PM

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If you want to get into a snit about sourcing, then consider this:

Source A said that Iraq had WMD.

Source B said they did not.

Care to guess who Source A was and who Source B was? Source A was the US government. Source B was Saddam Hussein.

Unless we find some massive arms dump somewhere, Source B turned out to be the more accurate of the two.

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 6:53:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I quoted people... now you can interpret that anyway you like... We tend to see the world the way we are... and you are showing how right those words are.

Why don't you step out from behind the ambiguities and tell me how I see the world? You don't know a damned thing about me.

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Nor do I want to... please feel free to keep on keeping on.

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 6:54:43 PM

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Nor do I want to... please feel free to keep on keeping on.

You made the attack, dear ... not me. I asked you a straight forward question as to what your agenda was, and you've twisted that into some bizarre notion that you understand my world view. Now I'm asking you to back it up, or retract the comment.

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 6:55:26 PM

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It just looks like whatever source that she used pulled those quotes out of their ass, and that they're not real quotes.

They're made up.

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 6:56:03 PM

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One thing I know about terrorism is that the most of us were never overly concerned until white/wasps started being killed.

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 6:57:10 PM

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Look above to the Wikipedia source

Now I do not need to make shit up... everyone knows what freaks the Religious Right are, and if you are going to sit there and play ostrich, fine... but in my opinion that looks just plain silly. It is common knowledge that these people are loons

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 6:58:13 PM

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Look above to the Wikipedia source

Now I do not need to make shit up... everyone knows what freaks the Religious Right are, and if you are going to sit there and play ostrich, fine... but in my opinion that looks just plain silly. It is common knowledge that these people are loons

Yeah, and well... so are the World Socialists.

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 7:01:30 PM

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Yeah, and well... so are the World Socialists.

She provided sources that can be independently verified. You did not. I have to conclude that she is not the one ad libbing here.

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 7:05:16 PM

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She provided sources that can be independently verified. You did not. I have to conclude that she is not the one ad libbing here.

Pfft.

She provided a link to the World Socialists' web page, which is like asking the Nazis for some quotes by some Jews. And she provided a link to Wikipedia - web pages anyone can edit.

And besides. It's common knowledge..

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 7:07:02 PM

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They're made up.

Taking just the Randall Terry quote, I put in the following and got 974 hits.

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0geu5qYQjlG.3MAybFXNyoA?p=who+said+%22We+have+a+Biblical+duty%2C+we+are+called+by+God%2C+to+conquer+this+country.%22&ei=UTF-8&fr=b1ie7&x=wrt

I am not going to type it into your computer or force you to read them.

Douglas Adams postulated something called an SEP (Somebody Else's Problem) field which allowed a person to put up an SEP in front of something, and people would reverse engineer whatever fabrication they could come up with to avoid seeing the something.

Go ahead and believe whatever you want to believe, regardless of empirical evidence to the contrary.

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 7:07:54 PM

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Here are some of Pat's quotes and a video....He's funny.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200508230006?is_gsa=1&final=1

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 7:11:04 PM

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She provided a link to the World Socialists' web page, and a link to Wikipedia - web pages that anyone can edit.

And besides. It's common knowledge..

That's true about wiki but it doesn't automatically make the quote incorrect. I just verified her 1977 quote about Hitler via the NY Times archive. Look for an article called "Buchanan Tries to Soften a Boyhood Bully Image," Maureen Dowd, New York Times, Feb 9 1992, pg 26. I'm sure the rest of the quotes can be verified as well, if you care to do the work. I just picked the easiest one since I have access to excellent research tools at my university.

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 7:11:11 PM

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She provided sources that can be independently verified. You did not. I have to conclude that she is not the one ad libbing here.

She also refuses to engage in an argument after creating it, sewing accusations about logical fallacies when obviously she has difficulty grasping the ones about hasty generalization and ad hominem. I don't know if her quotes are accurate or not, and frankly it's irrelevant to me ... I don't like those men or most of their ilk, and I'm still left here ... dazed and confused as to what the hell the point of the vast majority of this rant was or how it pertains to the discussion at hand.

If she wants to point out that there are Christian fanatics and American fanatics, fine ... asking her to clearly express her viewpoint is not setting up an easily assailable target for argument.

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 7:20:26 PM

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She also refuses to engage in an argument after creating it, sewing accusations about logical fallacies when obviously she has difficulty grasping the ones about hasty generalization and ad hominem.

I posted quotes, you asked leading questions to paint me as being sympathetic to Muslim extremist. I answered that point in my response. Now since then you keep piling on and piling on because I called you on what you stated... which I will repost below....

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Are you advocating that we give the Islamic fanatics a free pass because of the fact that there are Christian fanatics, or are you saying that they should be hated equally?

Now I am done with you on this point.. flame away at me, it really makes no difference. I am here for my own amusement, and only post to that which amuses me. You ceased to a long time ago.

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 7:20:28 PM

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That's true about wiki but it doesn't automatically make the quote incorrect. I just verified her 1977 quote about Hitler via the NY Times archive. Look for an article called "Buchanan Tries to Soften a Boyhood Bully Image," Maureen Dowd, New York Times, Feb 9 1992, pg 26. I'm sure the rest of the quotes can be verified as well, if you care to do the work. I just picked the easiest one since I have access to excellent research tools at my university.

Nice. Very good. Too bad she couldn't have done that, isn't it.

That's all I was asking her to do, was to learn how to source her quotes better, instead of relying on the World Socialists to give us Christian quotes second-hand

You'll just have to stand aside when I refuse to believe such garbage

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 7:21:53 PM

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Nice. Very good. Too bad she couldn't have done that, isn't it.

Why should I?

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 7:24:21 PM

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Yeah, and well... so are the World Socialists.

She provided sources that can be independently verified. You did not. I have to conclude that she is not the one ad libbing here.

What I find hilarious, selfbnd411, is that she posts quotes by a Christian Leader, and gets dogpiled by a bunch of posters on here.

Fascinating.

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RE: "... kill Jews and Americans "to the very... - 5/2/2007 7:25:53 PM

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Why should I?

No one will believe you've been anywhere near a college in your life if you don't ever learn to provide better sourcing than that.

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