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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
Why should I?

No one will believe you've been anywhere near a college in your life if you don't ever learn to provide better sourcing than that.

I'm lost. WHICH of the quotes juliaoceana posted was wrong? I mean, does it matter WHERE it came from if it's factually correct?

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Back to the topic at hand.  Then does the question become does one stop financial support due to the voice of one person....The test then is how many others share this opinion and how prevalent are those feelings in the population? These are questions that would have to be answered to be able to judge a Country and whether our gov't should be spending money there.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
My point is that we cannot dismiss an entire group of people because a few of them are assholes

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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Ok, so have we clearly established that there are plenty of REALLY FUCKING CRAZY NUTS running around in each and every organization?

Ok, so DISCOUNTING THE EXTREMIST BULLSHIT: Left, Right, Up, Down and Backwards, where are we?

My point is that we cannot dismiss an entire group of people because a few of them are assholes

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: selfbnd411
That's true about wiki but it doesn't automatically make the quote incorrect.  I just verified her 1977 quote about Hitler via the NY Times archive.  Look for an article called "Buchanan Tries to Soften a Boyhood Bully Image," Maureen Dowd, New York Times, Feb 9 1992, pg 26.  I'm sure the rest of the quotes can be verified as well, if you care to do the work.  I just picked the easiest one since I have access to excellent research tools at my university.

Nice. Very good. Too bad she couldn't have done that, isn't it.

That's all I was asking her to do, was to learn how to source her quotes better, instead of relying on the World Socialists to give us Christian quotes second-hand

You'll just have to stand aside when I refuse to believe such garbage

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

isnt there some passage in the bible about a taunt and a hiss, and destroy them to the last man and kill every woman and child and i WILL bid that at Ezekiel.


Just saying----


Ron

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Here are some hateful Christians to try on for size

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"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."--Randall Terry, Founder of Operation Rescue, The News-Sentinel, Fort Wayne, Indiana, 8-16-93

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"Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals--the two things seem to go together."--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 1/21/93

 

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We at the Christian Coalition are raising an army who cares. We are training people to be effective -- to be elected to school boards, to city councils, to state legislatures, and to key positions in political parties.... By the end of this decade, if we work and give and organize and train, THE CHRISTIAN COALITION WILL BE THE MOST POWERFUL POLITICAL ORGANIZATION IN AMERICA
-- Pat Robertson, in a fundraising letter, July 4, 1991

 

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Individual Christians are the only ones really -- and Jewish people, those who trust God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- are the only ones that are qualified to have the reign, because hopefully, they will be governed by God and submit to Him.
-- Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, January 11, 1985, defending his stance that only Christians and Jews are fit to hold public office

 

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If anybody understood what Hindus really believe, there would be no doubt that they have no business administering government policies in a country that favors freedom and equality.... Can you imagine having the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini as defense minister, or Mahatma Gandhi as minister of health, education, and welfare? The Hindu and Buddhist idea of karma and the Muslim idea of kismet, or fate condemn the poor and the disabled to their suffering.... It's the will of Allah. These beliefs are nothing but abject fatalism, and they would devastate the social gains this nation has made if they were ever put into practice.
-- Pat Robertson, The New World Order, p. 219

 

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I know it sounds somewhat Machiavellian and evil, to think that you could send a squad in to take out somebody like Osama bin Laden, or to take out the head of North Korea, but isn't it better to do something like that, to take out Milosevic, to take out Saddam Hussein, rather than to spend billions of dollars on a war that harms innocent civilians and destroys the infrastructure of a country?
-- Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, August 9, 1999, quoted in Martin McLaughlin, "Pat Robertson favors assassinations," August 14, 1999, World Socialist Web

 

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[Despite Hitler's anti-Semitic and genocidal tendencies, he was] an individual of great courage.... Hitler's success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path.
-- Pat Buchanan, in a 1977 column, The Guardian, January 14, 1992, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"

 

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The Jews are returning to their land of unbelief. They are spiritually blind and desperately in need of their Messiah and Savior.
-- Jerry Falwell, Listen, America!

 
Just some selected hate.... and I do not know how many times I have heard people say we should nuke the Middle East because of 9-11...

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ORIGINAL: Casie

I'm sorry but radical islam is FAR differnt than radical christians. I don't see  christians walking around with AK's committing genocide, because of someone is of a differnt belief

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

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ORIGINAL: Casie

I'm sorry but radical islam is FAR differnt than radical christians. I don't see  christians walking around with AK's committing genocide, because of someone is of a differnt belief

Casie... for some reason the secular left has fallen head over heels in love with the idea of women bearing burka's and homsexuality as a capital crime.

I am still waiting for a quote of any Christian leader invoking Christ to smote all non believers.

Why does the left love Islam so?

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

I am still waiting for a quote of any Christian leader invoking Christ to smote all non believers.

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ORIGINAL: Casie

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Here are some hateful Christians to try on for size

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"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."--Randall Terry, Founder of Operation Rescue, The News-Sentinel, Fort Wayne, Indiana, 8-16-93

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"Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals--the two things seem to go together."--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 1/21/93

 

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We at the Christian Coalition are raising an army who cares. We are training people to be effective -- to be elected to school boards, to city councils, to state legislatures, and to key positions in political parties.... By the end of this decade, if we work and give and organize and train, THE CHRISTIAN COALITION WILL BE THE MOST POWERFUL POLITICAL ORGANIZATION IN AMERICA
-- Pat Robertson, in a fundraising letter, July 4, 1991

 

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Individual Christians are the only ones really -- and Jewish people, those who trust God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- are the only ones that are qualified to have the reign, because hopefully, they will be governed by God and submit to Him.
-- Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, January 11, 1985, defending his stance that only Christians and Jews are fit to hold public office

 

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If anybody understood what Hindus really believe, there would be no doubt that they have no business administering government policies in a country that favors freedom and equality.... Can you imagine having the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini as defense minister, or Mahatma Gandhi as minister of health, education, and welfare? The Hindu and Buddhist idea of karma and the Muslim idea of kismet, or fate condemn the poor and the disabled to their suffering.... It's the will of Allah. These beliefs are nothing but abject fatalism, and they would devastate the social gains this nation has made if they were ever put into practice.
-- Pat Robertson, The New World Order, p. 219

 

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I know it sounds somewhat Machiavellian and evil, to think that you could send a squad in to take out somebody like Osama bin Laden, or to take out the head of North Korea, but isn't it better to do something like that, to take out Milosevic, to take out Saddam Hussein, rather than to spend billions of dollars on a war that harms innocent civilians and destroys the infrastructure of a country?
-- Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, August 9, 1999, quoted in Martin McLaughlin, "Pat Robertson favors assassinations," August 14, 1999, World Socialist Web

 

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[Despite Hitler's anti-Semitic and genocidal tendencies, he was] an individual of great courage.... Hitler's success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path.
-- Pat Buchanan, in a 1977 column, The Guardian, January 14, 1992, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"

 

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The Jews are returning to their land of unbelief. They are spiritually blind and desperately in need of their Messiah and Savior.
-- Jerry Falwell, Listen, America!

 
Just some selected hate.... and I do not know how many times I have heard people say we should nuke the Middle East because of 9-11...

I'm sorry but radical islam is FAR differnt than radical christians. I don't see  christians walking around with AK's committing genocide, because of someone is of a differnt belief

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

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ORIGINAL: Casie

I'm sorry but radical islam is FAR differnt than radical christians. I don't see  christians walking around with AK's committing genocide, because of someone is of a differnt belief

Casie... for some reason the secular left has fallen head over heels in love with the idea of women bearing burka's and homsexuality as a capital crime.

I am still waiting for a quote of any Christian leader invoking Christ to smote all non believers.

Why does the left love Islam so?

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ORIGINAL: Casie
I'm sorry but radical islam is FAR differnt than radical christians. I don't see  christians walking around with AK's committing genocide, because of someone is of a differnt belief

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I suppose you have never seen an abortion clinic bomber
Or the war in Ireland?
Howabout when we invaded Iraq because God told Bush to do it?

Seems while i was busy typing my reply, you had already taken the words right out of my mouth....sorry to repeat exactly what you said but your response wasn't there when i started.  Good points...........slave luci

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I suppose you have never seen an abortion clinic bomber
Doesn't happen as often as a radical Islamic killing a jew or christian and that is a very small portion of christians.

Or the war in Ireland?
I was refering to the USA

Howabout when we invaded Iraq because God told Bush to do it?
That is not the only reason we invaided Iraq. Not even the biggest reason. Perhaps you believe we should turn our backs completely on one of the main the reason people came to America in the first place RELIGOUS freedom. Perhaps we should ban people from having any beliefs? And when we catch someone worshipping their God we should drag them out in the street to and kill them? Bush is intitled to his relationship with his God as much as the next person, There were various reason we went to Iraq. And regaurdless of the fact that Bush's God told him to, or there were no WOMD, there are people there getting things they never got before, women can get an education, the Kurds are no longer being exterminated. Clean water, not worrying about crazies coming in there house and raping their women and childern, not having to worry about being tortured in the most inhuman ways ext. But apparently that means nothing to anyone. Who cares tho right we don't have to live there? But hey lets run to Darfur and save them!!! We are damed if we do, damned if we don't, and damned if we are inbetween.

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

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ORIGINAL: Casie

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Here are some hateful Christians to try on for size

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"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."--Randall Terry, Founder of Operation Rescue, The News-Sentinel, Fort Wayne, Indiana, 8-16-93

quote:

 
"Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals--the two things seem to go together."--Pat Robertson, "The 700 Club," 1/21/93

 

quote:

We at the Christian Coalition are raising an army who cares. We are training people to be effective -- to be elected to school boards, to city councils, to state legislatures, and to key positions in political parties.... By the end of this decade, if we work and give and organize and train, THE CHRISTIAN COALITION WILL BE THE MOST POWERFUL POLITICAL ORGANIZATION IN AMERICA
-- Pat Robertson, in a fundraising letter, July 4, 1991

 

quote:

Individual Christians are the only ones really -- and Jewish people, those who trust God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob -- are the only ones that are qualified to have the reign, because hopefully, they will be governed by God and submit to Him.
-- Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, January 11, 1985, defending his stance that only Christians and Jews are fit to hold public office

 

quote:

If anybody understood what Hindus really believe, there would be no doubt that they have no business administering government policies in a country that favors freedom and equality.... Can you imagine having the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini as defense minister, or Mahatma Gandhi as minister of health, education, and welfare? The Hindu and Buddhist idea of karma and the Muslim idea of kismet, or fate condemn the poor and the disabled to their suffering.... It's the will of Allah. These beliefs are nothing but abject fatalism, and they would devastate the social gains this nation has made if they were ever put into practice.
-- Pat Robertson, The New World Order, p. 219

 

quote:

I know it sounds somewhat Machiavellian and evil, to think that you could send a squad in to take out somebody like Osama bin Laden, or to take out the head of North Korea, but isn't it better to do something like that, to take out Milosevic, to take out Saddam Hussein, rather than to spend billions of dollars on a war that harms innocent civilians and destroys the infrastructure of a country?
-- Pat Robertson, The 700 Club television program, August 9, 1999, quoted in Martin McLaughlin, "Pat Robertson favors assassinations," August 14, 1999, World Socialist Web

 

quote:

[Despite Hitler's anti-Semitic and genocidal tendencies, he was] an individual of great courage.... Hitler's success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path.
-- Pat Buchanan, in a 1977 column, The Guardian, January 14, 1992, quoted from Political Amazon's "Quotes from Hell"

 

quote:

The Jews are returning to their land of unbelief. They are spiritually blind and desperately in need of their Messiah and Savior.
-- Jerry Falwell, Listen, America!

 
Just some selected hate.... and I do not know how many times I have heard people say we should nuke the Middle East because of 9-11...

I'm sorry but radical islam is FAR differnt than radical christians. I don't see  christians walking around with AK's committing genocide, because of someone is of a differnt belief

Nope that never happened I think they used swords and fire..