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minnetar -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:12:45 PM)
luci you don't respond to the original posters opinions and attack me and my beliefs. You are on block cause as i said previously you have no respect for anyone but your own opinions. i will not waste my time in the future reading what you have to say. minnetar

IrishMist -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:19:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gloriousangel Need some help here can you tell me what entails me to becoming a no limit slave what do I need to do If there is one thing that I have come to understand finally is that there is no such thing as a no limit submissive/slave When one becomes the property/partner of another, they assume the limits that their partner has or has placed upon them. ( hence, there is no such thing as no limits ) What many forget in this though is the taking of time to find someone who SHARES your values, morals, limits, etc.

minnetar -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:20:36 PM)
thank you Irish minnetar

IrishMist -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:21:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: minnetar thank you Irish minnetar I can be nice sometimes [8D]

minnetar -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:22:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IrishMist quote: ORIGINAL: minnetar thank you Irish minnetar I can be nice sometimes [8D] lmao i never doubted that. Sorry edited to add that i have had Doms ask me whether i could be a slave and that has basically been my response. If i would have the same values as You do, then i would do what You ordered without question. So i guess that would mean i would be a slave but i consider myself a submissive to make sure i can reach that level. minnetar

windchymes -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:23:15 PM)
I like when you're nice. It makes me want to be nice, too [;)]

IrishMist -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:24:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: windchymes I like when you're nice. It makes me want to be nice, too [;)] LMAO OK ok. give me a couple days and I'll be back to my nice bitchy self...just don't tell anyone that I deviated from the norm ok, it will ruin my horrid rep [:D]

slaveluci -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:26:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: minnetar luci you don't respond to the original posters opinions and attack me and my beliefs. You are on block cause as i said previously you have no respect for anyone but your own opinions. i will not waste my time in the future reading what you have to say. Yeah, i really attacked you. i QUOTED your own words and put ???? after it....absolutely vicious, i'd say[:D]. My first block! i knew this proud day would come eventually[:)]. i have plenty of respect for other people's opinions. What i can't respect is a post that contradicts itself, then when that's pointed out, the poster pouts and takes her marbles and blocks me. If you'll take two seconds to read my posts over the last several months, you'll see that the only time i'm downright disrespectful is when the same treatment is offered me (and BTW, you've been involved some yourself). You don't want to read my responses - cool, don't - but i can't believe your reaction to being quoted...WOW....luci

windchymes -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:28:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IrishMist quote: ORIGINAL: windchymes I like when you're nice. It makes me want to be nice, too [;)] LMAO OK ok. give me a couple days and I'll be back to my nice bitchy self...just don't tell anyone that I deviated from the norm ok, it will ruin my horrid rep [:D] I like when you're bitchy. It makes me want to be bitchy, too.[:D]

spanklette -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:41:00 PM)
I think I'll put you on block too...and don't come around here quoting me either.[:D]

spanklette -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:44:24 PM)
I have met many slaves, and I have yet to meet a "no limits" slave. They may personally have no limits, but their Dominant has made limits for the both of them. But just to be single and "no limits" just lets people know that you don't understand the concept and are probably also opent to abuse. In my experience, people who want to say that they have no limits...really just want scat play. But, those are the one's I've come across, can't speak for anyone else.

minnetar -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:46:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: spanklette I think I'll put you on block too...and don't come around here quoting me either.[:D] i wont even go there because i won't stoop to demean myself. Sometimes trying to talk to others is futile when they are filled with so much hate. minnetar

slaveluci -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:47:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: spanklette I think I'll put you on block too...and don't come around here quoting me either.[:D] Oh the horror! Another block?!?! i promise i won't use your own words to show what you really said[8D]....luci

slaveluci -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:51:34 PM)
edited because it simply feels sleazy to respond to such nonsense. Feels like i'm in the "Twilight Zone" here...hate?????[image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m22.gif[/image].......luci

MadRabbit -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:54:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gloriousangel Need some help here can you tell me what entails me to becoming a no limit slave what do I need to do In my self education, I have come across two basis contexts in which the words "no limit slave" applies. The first one is the bit of the myth in which the slave is in fact a person who has absolutely no limits. This is unrealistic since with any person we can endlessly list extreme and radical things and eventually we will find something that is a limit. I dont even really have to make a list. I can simply say "Death". Would you kill yourself to fulfill the will of your master? I can safely say that the vast majority would say "No." While we can argue whether its possible to achieve the devotion and sacrifice of self to cross this limit, personally I have yet to meet anyone (Maybe because they are already dead...I dont know). The other context that is more realisitc, in my opinion, is where a "no limit slave" is where there is no limits on the authority their Master has over them. Hence, the slave cant say "No". This is very different then the other context in which the person has no limits since the slave, realistically, has limits. There is just a deep enough level of trust and understanding that the Master wont ask the slave to do something that would cross those limits. Hence, with a no limit slave, I could order the slave to take a shit on the floor and eat it. In theory, she would have to obey, but as a responsible Master, I wont give that order since I would be concerned with her well being and health and not vouch the trust she has placed in me by ordering her to do something that would harm her. This is just my views on the subject.

minnetar -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 4:57:41 PM)
Mad Rabbit i must admit i am always astonished at the eloquence of Your answers. minnetar

cjenny -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 5:00:30 PM)
The other context that is more realisitc, in my opinion, is where a "no limit slave" is where there is no limits on the authority their Master has over them. Hence, the slave cant say "No". This is very different then the other context in which the person has no limits since the slave, realistically, has limits. There is just a deep enough level of trust and understanding that the Master wont ask the slave to do something that would cross those limits. MadRabbit thank you for posting this. You showed both in clear terms and I agree with your view/definition. Instead of insisting there is no such thing as a no limits slave, perhaps people need to alter their thinking.

MadRabbit -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 5:08:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: minnetar Mad Rabbit i must admit i am always astonished at the eloquence of Your answers. minnetar quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit I could order the slave to take a shit on the floor and eat it. What can I say? I'm just an elogant person [;)]

tricia -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 5:15:04 PM)
Thank you, i have to agree with you a hundred percent. You've defined many of us, well, better than we ever defined ourselves :)

daddysprop247 -> RE: Question about a no limit slave (5/5/2007 5:24:18 PM)
first i think that there are multiple ideas of "no limits" floating around, when it's really not that complicated of a concept imo. the way i was trained/taught, a slave was by definition "no limits" since she/he has given up all rights upon agreeing to become the property of another. and by no limits, that meant that the slave gave up all personal limits, and took on the limits of her/his Owner. some may take this to mean that there is no such thing as no limits, however if the limits are not your own and you have no control over them, i think that would qualify as no limits. so as a slave while i have no personal limits, my Master has limits which he places upon me. however these limits are subject to change at any time, and have absolutely nothing to do with shared values/desires/trust etc. there are certainly things my Master subjects me to that i would make limits if i were a free submissive. MadRabbit said: There is just a deep enough level of trust and understanding that the Master wont ask the slave to do something that would cross those limits. i would say that's true for some, but not for all. in my case, my Master does what he wills, which means that i cannot count on him not crossing certain lines or boundaries. actually it's quite the contrary, sometimes he crosses those lines just to make the point that he can, and sometimes he crosses them just because he wants to do what he wants to do, and the end result (damage to me) is not relevant. it can be immensely difficult at times, especially from an emotional standpoint as i can be a very sensitive person, however it's something i accepted when i came into this life. this is "no limits."

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