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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:01:29 AM   
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When someone is taxed like that you let me know, provide at least statistically accurate, CREDIBLE citations with an omicron minus one level.  I have no idea what fantasies you live with day to day, but recieving such a gift is purely your fantasy.  Don't happen here.

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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:02:25 AM   
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So you advocate no taxes for anything? Nice policy

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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:03:41 AM   
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Being unfairly and unevenly taxed is being GIVEN something. TAX is taken, not given.

If I have 10 dollars, taken from two people, and I GIVE it to two other people, I can assure you that regardless if you call it a fucking muckenfutch, it is being GIVEN.

Corporate welfare is GIVEN.  Unfari tax breaks for the wealthy are being GIVEN.

Since tax is only taken and not given, where does the money come from that the inept teabaggers are spending and borrowing?  Who is (I guess) TAKEN that to them?

Puerile mincing is sort of a real glamour deal with drooling shiteating imbeciles. I hope against hope you will never engage in that.

Taxes may be taken from one, but they are given to another.  And I was talking about tax breaks (note the additional word in there, strawman) which while closely related in concept is an entirely different thing, and anyone with a reading comprehension level greater than kindergarden might suss that out.

So, yeah.......WOW. UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE.  Whatever fantasy hyperbole you were off on.





Dance! Dance! Dance!

ROFLMFAO!!!!! Your dancing sucks the sweat off of a dead man's balls.



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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:09:45 AM   
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I am not dancing, but your vermiformous nothingnesses could be considered dancing in worm world. You are simply incapable of English comprehension. That is not surprising.  The right wing has many delusions and hallucinations.  They may think that they are paying for governmental goods and services for example, when the debt is garish fact that they are not.  They bemoan government welfare when they are the largest recipients of that.



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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:12:40 AM   
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When someone is taxed like that you let me know, provide at least statistically accurate, CREDIBLE citations with an omicron minus one level.  I have no idea what fantasies you live with day to day, but recieving such a gift is purely your fantasy.  Don't happen here.



It's exactly what you said -

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie


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Then we can safely assume that you are against tax cuts for wealthy and corporations, the Fed shouldnt be giving them that stuff. So, Romney is off your plate.



WOW!!!! A tax cut, being allowed to keep what one earns, is being given something.

Un-fucking-believable.



By your own words, the thief 'gave' your neighbor a break he did not give you. Thus what your neighbor was allowed to keep WAS A GIFT.

bwahahahahaha



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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:18:02 AM   
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I am not dancing, but your vermiformous nothingnesses could be considered dancing in worm world. You are simply incapable of English comprehension. That is not surprising.  The right wing has many delusions and hallucinations.  They may think that they are paying for governmental goods and services for example, when the debt is garish fact that they are not.  They bemoan government welfare when they are the largest recipients of that.



What it is about is your attitude. Your love of taxation. Your belief in its goodness. Your envy and you covetous nature.



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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:27:40 AM   
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a tax cut, a tax break if applied unfairly is a gift (not allowed by constitution) , it is being taken from one and given another.

thanks you for buttressing my point, even though you don't understand you are doing so.

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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:31:52 AM   
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I just find it interesting that so many wish to complain about general welfare... when corporate welfare cost around 100B in 2012.

I saw a figure that quoted it at 92B in 2006

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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:34:28 AM   
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It's incredible that someone could think that if their neighbor were only taxed at 10% while them self were taxed at 50% their neighbor was the recipient of a gift (being given something). Just how convoluted can one get in their thinking process? It's tantamount to holding that a thief, stealing less from your neighbor than yourself, somehow bestowed some form of giving (a gift) upon your neighbor.


Again, I wait for credible citations of the 50% tax rate, the people who think that and how it applies to thieves, since your elected represntatives have set tax law, as it was, is and shall be, and done so with your blessings.


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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:38:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

a tax cut, a tax break if applied unfairly is a gift (not allowed by constitution) , it is being taken from one and given another.

thanks you for buttressing my point, even though you don't understand you are doing so.



A gift to whom? To the one from whom is unfairly taken less? Like your neighbor whom the thief took less?

You consider it unfair, the thief taking less than you believe he should from one whom you declare fairly should have more taken.

You covet. You envy.

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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:40:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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It's incredible that someone could think that if their neighbor were only taxed at 10% while them self were taxed at 50% their neighbor was the recipient of a gift (being given something). Just how convoluted can one get in their thinking process? It's tantamount to holding that a thief, stealing less from your neighbor than yourself, somehow bestowed some form of giving (a gift) upon your neighbor.


Again, I wait for credible citations of the 50% tax rate, the people who think that and how it applies to thieves, since your elected represntatives have set tax law, as it was, is and shall be, and done so with your blessings.




Dance. Dance. Dance. You covetous progressive.

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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:40:36 AM   
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You bible thump

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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:42:39 AM   
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Thieves don't enter into this.   For instance the red welfare states that recieve more in federal dollars than they put in.  (is that taken by the states and taken by the fed?) since no giving is taking place?  looks like the definition of a gift to me.

Romney pays 13-14% taxes I pay around 35%.  Who is the thief?   You see, you buttress my point.

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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:44:58 AM   
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Here's a question about taxes...

I'm going to use figures from 2 years ago...

That year I made 32,000, my parents made over 500,000 (WELL over, might I add)
I paid more in taxes than they did, and my return at the end of the year was exponentially smaller...

That is fair...how?

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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:46:06 AM   
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I just find it interesting that so many wish to complain about general welfare... when corporate welfare cost around 100B in 2012.

I saw a figure that quoted it at 92B in 2006


Amazing logic. When corporations get "corporate welfare" to insure their survival so they can continue to provide jobs, Liberals scream "FOUL!!!"

When Obama blows hundreds of millions on green losers, that didn't provide shit, or, at best, produce a few jobs at a cost of $200,000 per low paying job, Liberals adore him!

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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:46:59 AM   
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That came from a Libertarian Think Tank... not Liberal.

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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:47:13 AM   
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You bible thump



Seems quite appropriate. Just because it's biblical doesn't make it wrong.

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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:50:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: papassion


quote:

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I just find it interesting that so many wish to complain about general welfare... when corporate welfare cost around 100B in 2012.

I saw a figure that quoted it at 92B in 2006


Amazing logic. When corporations get "corporate welfare" to insure their survival so they can continue to provide jobs, Liberals scream "FOUL!!!"

When Obama blows hundreds of millions on green losers, that didn't provide shit, or, at best, produce a few jobs at a cost of $200,000 per low paying job, Liberals adore him!



In all fairness the libs did applaud Government Motors.

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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:50:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: wnyThroatLover

Here's a question about taxes...

I'm going to use figures from 2 years ago...

That year I made 32,000, my parents made over 500,000 (WELL over, might I add)
I paid more in taxes than they did, and my return at the end of the year was exponentially smaller...

That is fair...how?


Lets look at the facts. How much did you invest, what effort, or what did you risk to get your 32 grand? what effort, investment, risk, etc did your parents make to get their cash?

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RE: Tea Party ad - 10/16/2012 10:51:27 AM   
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You bible thump



Seems quite appropriate. Just because it's biblical doesn't make it wrong.



Just because its biblical doesnt make it right or moral either...

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