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RE: inferior? - 4/3/2017 10:41:44 PM   
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You're a real darling.




I know. : )

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 12:08:26 AM   
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It's true to her. She knows she's a real darling. Smile.

Alternative facts! Fake news! Sad!

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 12:15:05 AM   
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It's true to her. She knows she's a real darling. Smile.

Alternative facts! Fake news! Sad!

She does have a point in this much. People are exhibiting the usual liberal brow beating behavior here of a person with a "politically incorrect" attitude.

After all, if so many men come here exhibiting themselves as lowly worms-why not give them the benefit of the doubt, and take them fishing?

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 12:24:45 AM   
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I embrace political incorrectness myself, and the lowly worm trope is indeed unappealing and outdated, a cliche even. I agree that 'inferior' and 'superior' while they strictly indicate a ranking also connote an inherent merit or quality level, which may or may not be justified.

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 12:39:09 AM   
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I embrace political incorrectness myself, and the lowly worm trope is indeed unappealing and outdated, a cliche even. I agree that 'inferior' and 'superior' while they strictly indicate a ranking also connote an inherent merit or quality level, which may or may not be justified.

At the same time,a person equating themselves as inferior to one they see in a leadership role may simply be exhibiting a desire to fit into a hierarchy with a regimented division of labor.

Perhaps they lack self discipline-so they feel they will gain more focus from an authority figure, who holds them accountable with a system of rewards and rather unpleasant punishments for screwing up.

In turn,having the more mundane tasks undertaken by by the person under control frees the boss up to do other tasks they are more competent to do.

Some might like to think of this sort of arrangement as being co dependent. I tend to think of it as interdependent. Something we all do to some extent.

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 12:50:30 AM   
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Codependence, interdependence? Sure. Yin and yang, it's a wheel, nope it's a binary star.

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 3:32:56 AM   
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Tamaka - do you also think that all sub women are inferior to non-sub women?

Or is this just a prejudice you have about male subs?


Just sub males.



Wow, back in this forum for one whole day, after claiming to be leaving ... how's that working out for you? and being a hypocrite again already. Way to go, you.

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 5:53:08 AM   
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She does have a point in this much. People are exhibiting the usual liberal brow beating behavior here of a person with a "politically incorrect" attitude.

Most of what the right tends to dismiss as political correctness is merely good manners: I suspect that the term's so popular with idiots because "I'm not politically correct" actually makes somebody sound defiant and rebellious in a way that saying "I'm a rude dickhead" doesn't.


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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 6:05:31 AM   
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She does have a point in this much. People are exhibiting the usual liberal brow beating behavior here of a person with a "politically incorrect" attitude.

Most of what the right tends to dismiss as political correctness is merely good manners: I suspect that the term's so popular with idiots because "I'm not politically correct" actually makes somebody sound defiant and rebellious in a way that saying "I'm a rude dickhead" doesn't.



Yup.

Besides which, I'd always vaguely assumed that 'political correctness' referred to a somewhat coercive attitude and code of behaviour *in society at large* towards well-identified groups of people - e.g. LGBT people; people of colour. (As the term is used by those who love it, anyway.) Male subs aren't one of those groups, the last time I checked; so it seems a bit feeble to invoke that hackneyed old defence on this occasion.


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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 6:19:21 AM   
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I do not think of it as 'inferior/less than' but more like a completion of each other; a circle rather than a hierarchy.

We each have our jobs to do and if we don't there is no dominance or submission; if you will, no relationship.

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 8:36:28 AM   
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She does have a point in this much. People are exhibiting the usual liberal brow beating behavior here of a person with a "politically incorrect" attitude.

Most of what the right tends to dismiss as political correctness is merely good manners: I suspect that the term's so popular with idiots because "I'm not politically correct" actually makes somebody sound defiant and rebellious in a way that saying "I'm a rude dickhead" doesn't.



Yup.

Besides which, I'd always vaguely assumed that 'political correctness' referred to a somewhat coercive attitude and code of behaviour *in society at large* towards well-identified groups of people - e.g. LGBT people; people of colour. (As the term is used by those who love it, anyway.) Male subs aren't one of those groups, the last time I checked; so it seems a bit feeble to invoke that hackneyed old defence on this occasion.


I can agree-they tend mostly to be in a group referred to as "ignored". If most had more to offer than a dong and a self serving fantasy,that might change.


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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 9:25:22 AM   
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Politically correct is the term used to define those that have been successfully assimilated and accomodated into the collective mindset. Some of us still choose free thinking and the right to maintain our own belief system and freedom to express it.

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 9:37:05 AM   
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Politically correct is the term used to define those that have been successfully assimilated into the collective mindset. Some of us still choose free thinking and the right to maintain our own belief system and freedom to express it.

And the worst social offenders are also usually the first to hide behind it when their motives are questioned. Very few male "subs" are more than selfish bottoms, who get upset when they fail to find a free whore to service them. Actual male submission involves making a sacrifice for a particular sort of Woman.

And objectification and misogyny are not sacrifices. They are the acts of a small child in an adult body.

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 9:50:01 AM   
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Wow, back in this forum for one whole day, after claiming to be leaving ... how's that working out for you? and being a hypocrite again already. Way to go, you.

Did tasocka threaten to leave again?

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 10:11:03 AM   
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Politically correct is the term used to define those that have been successfully assimilated and accomodated into the collective mindset. Some of us still choose free thinking and the right to maintain our own belief system and freedom to express it.


Oh god, please save us from those who've bought into utterly conventional beliefs and opinions that are hundreds of years old but still have the conceit to assume they're 'free thinking' ....

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 10:16:39 AM   
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The "natural order" isnt. LMAO
Indoctrinated into patriarchal religious victorian mores is free thinking?
Its the very epitome of regressive thinking
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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 10:17:19 AM   
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Politically correct is the term used to define those that have been successfully assimilated into the collective mindset. Some of us still choose free thinking and the right to maintain our own belief system and freedom to express it.

And the worst social offenders are also usually the first to hide behind it when their motives are questioned. Very few male "subs" are more than selfish bottoms, who get upset when they fail to find a free whore to service them. Actual male submission involves making a sacrifice for a particular sort of Woman.

And objectification and misogyny are not sacrifices. They are the acts of a small child in an adult body.


True enough. I would say any true male submissive is actually a switch because even a dominant-type woman needs a break. I think bdsm sites probably aren't the best place to find true male submissives. Like you said, they are more likelu to just be selfish bottoms. The best place to find male subs is probably church. I met many of them there... when i used to go.

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 10:19:09 AM   
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Politically correct is the term used to define those that have been successfully assimilated into the collective mindset. Some of us still choose free thinking and the right to maintain our own belief system and freedom to express it.

And the worst social offenders are also usually the first to hide behind it when their motives are questioned. Very few male "subs" are more than selfish bottoms, who get upset when they fail to find a free whore to service them. Actual male submission involves making a sacrifice for a particular sort of Woman.

And objectification and misogyny are not sacrifices. They are the acts of a small child in an adult body.


True enough. I would say any true male submissive is actually a switch because even a dominant-type woman needs a break. I think bdsm sites probably aren't the best place to find true male submissives. Like you said, they are more likelu to just be selfish bottoms. The best place to find male subs is probably church. I met many of them there... when i used to go.


Less likely to get an STD from a church guy too.

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 10:25:10 AM   
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fatuous argument.
Thats like saying religious women dont get abortions.
UTTER BOLLOCKS.

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RE: inferior? - 4/4/2017 10:42:02 AM   
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fatuous argument.
Thats like saying religious women dont get abortions.
UTTER BOLLOCKS.

Some of us like to follow "conventional mores" for our own reasons. Not because we are "brain washed" into doing so. One of which is avoiding the sexually promiscuous-and the dangers that they bring. There will always be hypocrites in any given situation.

But when you have a structure with a leader sort-and the agreement is "no outside sex, or you are gone-no excuses"..It does lead to more of a sense of stability. It will only happen once.

Sex addicts tend to put themselves and others at risk. The more partners you have, the bigger the chance.

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