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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/23/2017 5:34:03 PM   
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I spent a bit of time being a murderous medieval bastard and no one pissed in my cheerios.


And you know what, thank you for your service. Sometimes a murderous medieval bastard is just what's needed. Few can do it, so we salute those that can.

I killed poor people to make rich people richer if you want to thank me for that, take me out and get me laid. Take me out and feed me at someplace besides "chez jack". Take me home and hook me up with
your daughter...words are cheap and I cannot fuck em eat em or smoke em.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/23/2017 5:39:11 PM   
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Second point: Muslims do not go door to door pestering people.


That's true.

But Jehovah Witnesses does that???


Right, instead Muslims put poles up the rectums of non-believers until they come out of their mouths then they plant them along highways as terroristic warnings to anyone thinking of denying Allah

Things like that

Actually, it was the other way around.
Vlad Tepes (a Christian) had poles shoved the recti of quite a large number of Muslims as he stopped the Ottoman invasion of modern day Romania.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/23/2017 7:34:45 PM   
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I get a general feeling of: "If only Russia were a free-society; more like us"?

Empire Building/Regime change? Is that the general over-tone?Michael

Free-society? What's a free-society? It is interesting to note that in the US and Canada's free-societies during WWII, at the same time Hitler was throwing JWs in concentration camps in Germany for their resistance, the US and Canada were throwing JWs in prison and in some cases they were lynched.


WW II? 77 years ago? The US did much worse than that 150 years ago, the Brits and the French did much worse than that 300 and 500 and 1,000 years ago. The Mesopotamians . . .

Is there an expiration date on all this? "It happened then, so we are not free now," is that it?

Does this mean people who practiced slavery 2-3,000 years ago are not allowed in the discussion of slavery anymore, now or forever?

Don't waste your time on that, though.

I think -creditable sources- as relating of instances of the US and Canada's lynching JWs during WW II would be much more interesting.

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So I have come to realize that Free is a relative term and that no person or society can be totally free but by comparison can be freer in one situation than another or more in one way than another.
;-)


Did you have a good nap? So you just now learned about relative freedom the same way people thousands of years ago did?

Oh, and as for the "it's part of their religion to intrude upon people in the middle of being a family and interrupt important household affairs" as being "part of their religion, so to suppress the annoyance and intrusion would mean suppressing their religion," . . .

Just overflowing with original thought today, aren't you?

I absolutely vote for JWs or any other idiot interrupting my or any family's lives with their lunacy being taken away in cuffs on second offence and charged and convicted of misdemeanor and a stiff fine for doing so.

Maybe you missed it, but the US and Canada and most any country have laws that do not accommodate any and every wacko religious notion.

But any country not ruled by religion is not free, we get it. Go join Real uno, now.


Is there an expiration date on all this?

Yep, as soon as wackos like you stop ranting about how it's okay to arrest people for just interrupting their all important life.

Yes, take away their freedom because you've been inconvenienced.

Yes, that's true meaning of freedom, to be free to take freedom away from others.

It's too bad you still haven't "learned about relative freedom the same way people thousands of years ago did".

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/23/2017 7:39:16 PM   
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Yep, as soon as wackos like you stop ranting about how it's okay to arrest people for just interrupting their all important life.

Yes, take away their freedom because you've been inconvenienced.

Yes, that's true meaning of freedom, to be free to take freedom away from others.

It's too bad you still haven't "learned about relative freedom the same way people thousands of years ago did".


I figure that it is russias issue and none of my business. They do not come to my house but then I live at the end of a two mile long dirt road...closest neighbor is about 4 miles away.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/23/2017 8:08:52 PM   
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I knew Hitler send JW's to the camps. I didn't know more came out than went in. So I'll, respectfully, ask for a citation.

I must apologize and withdraw my statement, although I remember reading it some years back I can not recall where and thus can not provide a citation.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/23/2017 8:34:43 PM   
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Yep, as soon as wackos like you stop ranting about how it's okay to arrest people for just interrupting their all important life.

Yes, take away their freedom because you've been inconvenienced.

Yes, that's true meaning of freedom, to be free to take freedom away from others.

It's too bad you still haven't "learned about relative freedom the same way people thousands of years ago did".

So if the JWs can intrude upon private residences and private lives, that is "freedom", as you take it?

Well then thousands of others can knock on your door 24/7/365 and intrude upon your own freedom with whatever wacko notions of theirs.

Unless you consider it a restriction on their freedom to not be able to do so.

"I figure that it is russias issue and none of my business. They do not come to my house but then I live at the end of a two mile long dirt road...closest neighbor is about 4 miles away."

So you are not personally bothered by JWs due to logistical circumstance, so if everybody else doesn't have a two mile driveway, fuck 'em.
I can feel the compassion for your fellow man flowing over.


You need another nap already.


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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/23/2017 9:22:59 PM   
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I don't consider them a cult so much as fucking annoying.

Are they a pain in the rear, yes. Is there any reason to ban them like a terror cult, don't be silly.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/23/2017 9:28:39 PM   
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closest neighbor is about 4 miles away.


Ahhh, that explains why you are still alive.

T^T

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/23/2017 11:00:37 PM   
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So if the JWs can intrude upon private residences and private lives, that is "freedom", as you take it?

Well then thousands of others can knock on your door 24/7/365 and intrude upon your own freedom with whatever wacko notions of theirs.

The funny thing is, I am imagining in America. If JW comes walking on your front lawn towards your door. It's America, you can just shoot them for trespassing. That's exercising freedom. And nobody is gonna come knocking on your door after that!


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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/23/2017 11:02:07 PM   
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closest neighbor is about 4 miles away.


Ahhh, that explains why you are still alive.

T^T

Or either he is just a keyboard warrior. But in real life, he is subdued.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/24/2017 12:42:25 AM   
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So if the JWs can intrude upon private residences and private lives, that is "freedom", as you take it?

Well then thousands of others can knock on your door 24/7/365 and intrude upon your own freedom with whatever wacko notions of theirs.

The funny thing is, I am imagining in America. If JW comes walking on your front lawn towards your door. It's America, you can just shoot them for trespassing. That's exercising freedom. And nobody is gonna come knocking on your door after that!


In fact, the number of households containing a gun in the US has steadily declined from the 1970s onward. But let's just go by how the movies portray things.

So yeah, everybody in America is Clint Eastwood or his wife, and we all carry long barrel .45s, and we all shoot on sight.

Stay away! you other sissies of the world!


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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/24/2017 1:13:15 AM   
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So yeah, everybody in America is Clint Eastwood or his wife, and we all carry long barrel .45s, and we all shoot on sight.

Stay away! you other sissies of the world!

It can't be that ancient, when Pokemon Go players are getting shot for gathering at people's lawn to catch Pokemon in the US.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/24/2017 3:45:22 AM   
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So if the JWs can intrude upon private residences and private lives, that is "freedom", as you take it?

Yes it is.

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Well then thousands of others can knock on your door 24/7/365 and intrude upon your own freedom with whatever wacko notions of theirs.

Yes they can.

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Unless you consider it a restriction on their freedom to not be able to do so.

Yes I do.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/24/2017 3:49:24 AM   
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So if the JWs can intrude upon private residences and private lives, that is "freedom", as you take it?

Well then thousands of others can knock on your door 24/7/365 and intrude upon your own freedom with whatever wacko notions of theirs.

The funny thing is, I am imagining in America. If JW comes walking on your front lawn towards your door. It's America, you can just shoot them for trespassing. That's exercising freedom. And nobody is gonna come knocking on your door after that!

Most places you can't shoot someone outside on your front lawn, you have to invite them inside before you can shoot them.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/24/2017 4:15:58 AM   
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the US and Canada were throwing JWs in prison and in some cases they were lynched.


first I have heard of such a thing to the extent you are implying it occurred, especially when it's linked to what hitler did.


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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/24/2017 4:17:17 AM   
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Ahhh, that explains why you are still alive.

Or either he is just a keyboard warrior. But in real life, he is subdued.

Pointing out your ignorance does not make one a keyboard warrior.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/24/2017 4:18:40 AM   
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the US and Canada were throwing JWs in prison and in some cases they were lynched.


first I have heard of such a thing to the extent you are implying it occurred, especially when it's linked to what hitler did.


Clearly you do not get out much.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/24/2017 4:20:34 AM   
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closest neighbor is about 4 miles away.


Ahhh, that explains why you are still alive.

Or maybe it explains why the neighbors stay out of range.

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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/24/2017 4:27:31 AM   
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"I figure that it is russias issue and none of my business. They do not come to my house but then I live at the end of a two mile long dirt road...closest neighbor is about 4 miles away."

So you are not personally bothered by JWs due to logistical circumstance, so if everybody else doesn't have a two mile driveway, fuck 'em.
I can feel the compassion for your fellow man flowing over.


Perhaps you should go back and read what I said. What russia does is none of my business. Just as which hand you use to wipe your ass is none of my business.
Now if you want to poke your nose into russian policy go do it...also none of my business.


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RE: Russia offically bans Jehovah Witnesses - 4/24/2017 5:07:18 AM   
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Second point: Muslims do not go door to door pestering people.


That's true.

But Jehovah Witnesses does that???


Right, instead Muslims put poles up the rectums of non-believers until they come out of their mouths then they plant them along highways as terroristic warnings to anyone thinking of denying Allah

Things like that

Actually, it was the other way around.
Vlad Tepes (a Christian) had poles shoved the recti of quite a large number of Muslims as he stopped the Ottoman invasion of modern day Romania.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler


One lone historical figure, who was a Muslim and who probably learned his trade from Ottoman Muslims - Muslims, who still practice the same sort of terrorism that Dracula did

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In 1442, Vlad III and his younger brother, Radu, were handed over to Sultan Murad II, then-ruler of the Ottoman Empire. The young men were held hostage to ensure their father, ruler of the principality of Wallachia, remained loyal to the Ottomans during their ongoing war with Hungary.

During their captivity, Vlad and his brother were tutored in science, philosophy and the arts. They were also allegedly schooled in the arts of war, receiving lessons in both horsemanship and swordsmanship from their Ottoman captors, according to Radu Florescu and Raymond McNally, former professors of history at Boston College, who wrote several books about Vlad III.

Some historians have argued that Vlad also learned the art of impalement during his time as a hostage, but that can’t be proven, according to Florin Curta, a professor of medieval history and archaeology at the University of Florida. The Ottomans didn't invent impalement, and there's no way of knowing whether Vlad saw them deploy this gruesome punishment on their prisoners, Curta told Live Science. [Busted: Medieval Torture's 10 Biggest Myths]

Regardless of what he learned from his captors, Vlad didn't take kindly to being held prisoner. On the contrary, his kid brother adjusted well to captivity, forging a friendship with the Sultan's son, Mehmet II, and eventually converting to Islam.

But Vlad felt little more than enmity for his captors, according to Elizabeth Miller, a research historian and professor emeritus at Memorial University of Newfoundland in Canada. This enmity may have been his motivation for siding with the Hungarians against the Ottomans when he eventually became ruler of Wallachia in 1448, Miller told Live Science.

Vlad the terrorist

Vlad's cruelty is well documented in historical texts, but what often goes overlooked is how he combined this cruelty with cunning to terrorize his enemies.

For example, his preferred method of execution, impalement, wasn't just a sadistic way to get rid of his opponents; it was also a good way to scare them away, according to Curta.

In 1462, Mehmet II (at the time, the Ottoman sultan), invaded Wallachia. When he arrived at the capital city of Târgoviște, he found it deserted. The rotting remains of Ottoman prisoners of war, each impaled on a spike, were the only soldiers there to greet him. Mehmet didn't retreat right then and there, but he certainly didn't gain any headway, Curta noted



Even your anecdotal fallacies fails you

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