Milesnmiles
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ORIGINAL: Edwird ... If you've ever seen me depriving others' trying to go online to a JW site or standing in front of one of their few churches (there was one in my old neighborhood) trying to block entrance, then provide evidence and tell the world about it, by all means. That is not what we are talking about and you know it. quote:
ORIGINAL: Edwird Many millions more have found benefit from many things they sought on their own, including religious venture. Yes, so what? quote:
ORIGINAL: Edwird Millions find benefit from choosing when to forgo total privacy and go out in public or go to the library or get on the phone or go online or go to social gatherings, knowing they have privacy when they choose when they get back home or turn off the computer and make supper and get the kids in the bath and read a book, etc. Again yes but so what? quote:
ORIGINAL: Edwird What -you- 'think' (if one could call it thinking) is that it is a 'benefit' having what they thought was their privacy invaded by -others'- notion of 'Joy by way of Armageddon!' The problem is you "thinking" that everyone feels the same way about this as you do, in fact the Supreme Court disagrees with you. quote:
ORIGINAL: Edwird I could point out Amazon (not that I'm a fan), but even just my local walk-to grocery store benefits more people that JWs, by far, and I can be at home all day (on those days) and never have to worry about them knocking on my door. Again so what, the fact your local walk-to grocery store doesn't knock on your door doesn't stop people from benefiting from JWs knocking on their door. quote:
ORIGINAL: Edwird But hanging up on a telemarketer or subsequent number-blocking is denying that caller and that company their 'freedom' by your reckoning. I really wish you would start thinking, an individual action, as you mention here, is different than a ban on JWs as you have mentioned. One is you exercising your personal freedom and the other is limiting the freedom of others. quote:
ORIGINAL: Edwird People doing much more useful things for society than JWs (like selling oranges or magazine subscriptions or gutter cleaning) gave up the door-to-door thing decades ago. You are now using your personal opinion to decide what is useful and what is not which is fine for you individually but you can not decide what is useful for others. quote:
ORIGINAL: Edwird You can twist it all you want, but it doesn't change a thing. The subject is only twisted in your mind because you are looking at it subjectively and not objectively. quote:
ORIGINAL: Edwird -People making their own home the way they see fit-, best as they are able, is freedom, or at least making as much effort to that end as possible. And if people's notion of good home excludes door knockers, then tough shit. Great, if that is what you want for your own home fine but that is not what you said, you said that JWs should be arrested and fined and that is no longer just you own home, that is deciding for everybody else as well and then you limiting the freedom of others.
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