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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

Hmmmm..... 6 pages of 'your kink isn't my kink, so it must be wrong' bigotry, and several sets of 'what double standard?' blinders....

Just another day at Collarme 

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ORIGINAL: LightHeartedMaam

I've noticed the "bigotry" card gets played when a point to the contrary is proved beyond dispute.  

A topic was presented and discussed is all that I can see. Opinions are opinions and all the discussion in the world isn't going to dissuade anyone from doing what they enjoy.

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

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ORIGINAL: LightHeartedMaam

I've noticed the "bigotry" card gets played when a point to the contrary is proved beyond dispute.  

A topic was presented and discussed is all that I can see. Opinions are opinions and all the discussion in the world isn't going to dissuade anyone from doing what they enjoy.

Bigotry has a definition, just like prostitution... it means an utter intolerance for differing viewpoints.  Or in this case, differing kinks.

If the shoe fits....

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Sorry to have left good questions hanging- I've been busy with out of town guests this weekend. :)

My situation was entailing that the sub comply in order for them to meet.  There are many male doms out there who REQUIRE the sub to dress a particular way when they meet.  If the sub is not willing to do so, the meet does not occur.

I don't see this as any different than a dom requiring a sub to provide a monetary or physical object.

Both are saying "In order for us to meet, I need you to give me something." 

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I don't see this as any different than a dom requiring a sub to provide a monetary or physical object.

Both are saying "In order for us to meet, I need you to give me something." 

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Are you guys talking about a pro dom who specifically is paid for a length of time but since ridiculous laws are in place cannot simply ask for money as any other normal adult profession but must use the ridiculous term "tribute"?

Or are you guys talking about a dom who simply requests some form of tribute when meeting but is seeking a long term committed intimate relationship?

I'm talking about the latter.

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ORIGINAL: Eldritchdancer

Good day, forum readers. I had a conversation with a few friends this week and something they asked me was profound enough for me to ponder it. And, as I like to think with other people, I figured I'd post this to the Forums. I'm not posting this to the Ask a Mistress/Master area because it affects us as a whole, by perception. I ask that people not send flames, as this is a legitimate query from some folks who are relatively new and seeking answers. The question I was asked is:

"If a Dominant, be they male or female, demands tribute to meet with them at all... how are they different from a prostitute/giggilo? In both cases you are giving something of value just for the pleasure of their company."

That one threw me for a loop. I'd never thought of it that way, really, as I don't ask for tribute. I LOVE meeting new people. So, I thought I'd put it out to the forums to discuss, rationally, so I can show the thread to the questioners.

Master Darkmoon

P.S.
As a side note, this is my 25th posting, so I lost my Vanilla Cone. lol (well, I thought I'd lose my cone)

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

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ORIGINAL: Eldritchdancer

Good day, forum readers. I had a conversation with a few friends this week and something they asked me was profound enough for me to ponder it. And, as I like to think with other people, I figured I'd post this to the Forums. I'm not posting this to the Ask a Mistress/Master area because it affects us as a whole, by perception. I ask that people not send flames, as this is a legitimate query from some folks who are relatively new and seeking answers. The question I was asked is:

"If a Dominant, be they male or female, demands tribute to meet with them at all... how are they different from a prostitute/giggilo? In both cases you are giving something of value just for the pleasure of their company."

That one threw me for a loop. I'd never thought of it that way, really, as I don't ask for tribute. I LOVE meeting new people. So, I thought I'd put it out to the forums to discuss, rationally, so I can show the thread to the questioners.

Master Darkmoon

P.S.
As a side note, this is my 25th posting, so I lost my Vanilla Cone. lol (well, I thought I'd lose my cone)

To be frankly honest, I dont care about the difference.

In fact, I dont care at all when it comes to the two opposing sides in these threads.

This is just another example of people hanging their high hats and shoving their own moral values down other people's throats.

Because...if it didnt come down to moral values and judgements based on them, nobody would care about the difference.

Just like nobody really cares about the difference between a "garbage man" and a "waste disposal techinician"

But when it comes to the difference between a "Dominatrix" and a "prostitute", its a huge flaming deal worthy of a thread one gazillion pages long and everyone in the local communities curling up their noses and stating an opinion.

If I want to pay a girl $100 to give me a blowjob and we both agree, then please explain to me how this has any effect on anyone?

If a male submissive wants to pay a Mistress a cash tribute for their company or a scene or session, it has no effect on me and more power to them both?

The differences in what I choose to "label" them or they "label" themselves has as much merit as the differences in a "slave" and a "submissive"

I find it highly ironic that probably a good number of people here who are "labeling" pro dommes as "whores" and "prostitutes" will take a very politically correct stance against "labeling" people as "bottoms" or "submissives" when that recurring BDSM debate #133 pops up.

Further more, the stances that pro dommes are preying on male submissives with their demand for money or tribute has as much merit as the argument that sex shouldnt be part of the lifestyle because it "hurts" the female submissive's fealings.

Taking that kind of stance instantly turns someone from being a "consenting adult" into a child who isnt responsible for their own decisions.

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ORIGINAL: LightHeartedMaam

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ORIGINAL: TexasMaam

I guess this means that our Physicians, who charge an office fee just for seeing them, Doctors, Surgeons, Psychiatrists, Psychologists, ENT's, ALL are prostitutes, too.

We already knew Lawyers were.

Oh, that makes Accountants, Veterinarians, Ski Intructors, Art Teachers, Piano Teachers, and anyone else who charges a fee for teaching their expertise a slut and a prostitute as well.

What amount of college/university tuition does a Prodomme have to pay for her education to be a Prodomme?  Or prostitute a prostitute?  I see no comparison.  

Actually, what I feel is probably more offensive than anything is a fee to be paid from another human just wanting attention :(  Kinda sad actually  IMO.  But then I'm a *humanist.


*(hu·man·ist  [hyoo-muh-nist or, often, yoo-] –noun )
1. a person having a strong interest in or concern for human welfare, values and dignity. 

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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

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ORIGINAL: Eldritchdancer

Good day, forum readers. I had a conversation with a few friends this week and something they asked me was profound enough for me to ponder it. And, as I like to think with other people, I figured I'd post this to the Forums. I'm not posting this to the Ask a Mistress/Master area because it affects us as a whole, by perception. I ask that people not send flames, as this is a legitimate query from some folks who are relatively new and seeking answers. The question I was asked is:

"If a Dominant, be they male or female, demands tribute to meet with them at all... how are they different from a prostitute/giggilo? In both cases you are giving something of value just for the pleasure of their company."

That one threw me for a loop. I'd never thought of it that way, really, as I don't ask for tribute. I LOVE meeting new people. So, I thought I'd put it out to the forums to discuss, rationally, so I can show the thread to the questioners.

Master Darkmoon

P.S.
As a side note, this is my 25th posting, so I lost my Vanilla Cone. lol (well, I thought I'd lose my cone)

To be frankly honest, I dont care about the difference.

In fact, I dont care at all when it comes to the two opposing sides in these threads.

This is just another example of people hanging their high hats and shoving their own moral values down other people's throats.

Because...if it didnt come down to moral values and judgements based on them, nobody would care about the difference.

Just like nobody really cares about the difference between a "garbage man" and a "waste disposal techinician"

But when it comes to the difference between a "Dominatrix" and a "prostitute", its a huge flaming deal worthy of a thread one gazillion pages long and everyone in the local communities curling up their noses and stating an opinion.

If I want to pay a girl $100 to give me a blowjob and we both agree, then please explain to me how this has any effect on anyone?

If a male submissive wants to pay a Mistress a cash tribute for their company or a scene or session, it has no effect on me and more power to them both?

The differences in what I choose to "label" them or they "label" themselves has as much merit as the differences in a "slave" and a "submissive"

I find it highly ironic that probably a good number of people here who are "labeling" pro dommes as "whores" and "prostitutes" will take a very politically correct stance against "labeling" people as "bottoms" or "submissives" when that recurring BDSM debate #133 pops up.

Further more, the stances that pro dommes are preying on male submissives with their demand for money or tribute has as much merit as the argument that sex shouldnt be part of the lifestyle because it "hurts" the female submissive's fealings.

Taking that kind of stance instantly turns someone from being a "consenting adult" into a child who isnt responsible for their own decisions.

"I don't care"-3 words

This "care" package-Over 300 words

You care, but that's a good thing.

With Love and Respect, chia* (the pet)

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ORIGINAL: ICGsteve

When I read the thread I don't see most people taking this as a question of ethics, but as  a question of honesty about the transaction. Terms such a whore have negative value connotations in the general society but they do not apply in this community. Take the label "slave" for another example, or hell, even "submissive".

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ORIGINAL: ICGsteve

Our brain works primarily by sorting into categories, breaking down big bits into small bits so that we can make sense of our experience. You are objecting to the process of awareness when you object to label making. Labeling, defining, and categorizing are critical to getting everything we can out of the BDSM experience. I am all with you if you object to small minded ethical judgments of a particular label, but if you object to labels in general then you are throwing the baby out.