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"Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 6:26:20 AM

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What does the phrase "under consideration" mean to Y/you? Do Y/you think it's like an engagement ring for a collar? How should the P/parties involved deal with third persons who don't know about the "under consideration" O/other? Is "under consideration" a two way street between the Dom/me and the subbie or slave?

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 7:21:35 AM

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It means that a dominant is considering a s type person for a collar.

It has no personal meaning for me as the only collar that matters to us is the one that will mark me as his for life. He does not give his submissives any other, except perhaps a play collar.

I do not know what you mean by two way street. Do you mean that the submissive is still considering the dom? Well if someone offered me a consideration collar and they were only "considering" me, well I would only be "considering" them too.

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 7:25:28 AM

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means nothing to Daddy and me. that wasn't used when we moved into our D/s dynamic.

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 7:30:03 AM

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What does the phrase "under consideration" mean to Y/you?

It means that we're considering taking things further.

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Do Y/you think it's like an engagement ring for a collar?

I think it's like deciding between calling someone a guy you're dating and a boyfriend.

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How should the P/parties involved deal with third persons who don't know about the "under consideration" O/other?

Let them know.

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Is "under consideration" a two way street between the Dom/me and the subbie or slave?

Yes. If one person is "under the consideration" of the other, it simply means that other person has already gone through their consideration phase and is ready to progress and waiting for the other person to catch up.

IMO generally it's just another hoop people like to create to make subs feel special and courted so they can put "under consideration" in their profile rather than seriously taking things into consideration.

But I'm sure you know plenty of this already since you've been hanging around for a few years now.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_570779/mpage_1/key_consideration/tm.htm#570947
"Under Consideration" what does it mean to you?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_437842/mpage_1/key_consideration/tm.htm#437958
Putting under consideration

http://www.collarchat.com/m_297748/mpage_1/key_consideration/tm.htm#297748
collaring levels

http://www.collarchat.com/m_293199/mpage_1/key_consideration/tm.htm#293199
some slaves have no

http://www.collarchat.com/m_249659/mpage_1/key_consideration/tm.htm#249659
"Under Consideration"???

http://www.collarchat.com/m_167264/mpage_1/key_consideration/tm.htm#167264
Under Consideration

http://www.collarchat.com/m_167264/mpage_1/key_consideration/tm.htm#167264
taking someone under consideration

http://www.collarchat.com/m_136495/mpage_1/key_consideration/tm.htm#136495
under consideration

http://www.collarchat.com/m_86003/mpage_1/key_consideration/tm.htm#86003
different "stages"/different treatment?

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 8:08:49 AM

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IT means bull shit,nothing nada, just like theses velcro collars and online collars but as always just the views of this ol' master ..edited to add,a collar of consideration is often means of stringing along one to get into ones pants ..smile..bounty

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 8:11:00 AM

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When 'Mine' and I met a couple of months back, it seemed like we were going to 'click' fairly well. She had had some dates with a vanilla guy, but broke that off pretty quickly (not at my request, really), and sort of put herself under consideration. To her, she was committing herself to seeing where things were going to go with me before entertaining other offers. She changed her profile to reflect that, and then later on we solidified our commitment.

I've never personally used that phrase, or never really needed to. My relationships have come about pretty quickly such that there weren't 'phases' to mess around with. Only the distance between us has made things a little slower from my viewpoint.

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 8:29:30 AM

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It meant he was deciding whether he wanted to own me or not. For us, the collar came later - months after ownership.

I did not / do not see it as an engagement ring. I see it as a Master exploring a slave to see if he wants to own her.

Not sure what you mean about the third person not knowing. My Master has considered other girls from time to time. I knew about some, not about others. He tells me what he sees fit to tell me. I entered the relationship knowing that would happen. The girls he considers know he owns a slave. It's not an issue for us.

Yes, when he was considering me, I was also considering him as an owner. It was I who asked him to own me, and that was after he had been working with me and training me awhile.

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 8:33:03 AM

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What does the phrase "under consideration" mean to Y/you?

that a submissive is considering accepting a collar from a specific Dominant at some point in the future...and/or a Dominant is considering collaring a specific submissive at some point in the future.

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Do Y/you think it's like an engagement ring for a collar?

to some folks, yes.

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How should the P/parties involved deal with third persons who don't know about the "under consideration" O/other?

however they decide to.

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Is "under consideration" a two way street between the Dom/me and the subbie or slave?

if that is what they decide, sure.

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 8:40:45 AM

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What does the phrase "under consideration" mean to Y/you? Do Y/you think it's like an engagement ring for a collar? How should the P/parties involved deal with third persons who don't know about the "under consideration" O/other? Is "under consideration" a two way street between the Dom/me and the subbie or slave?

it means whatever those involved wish it to be. Personally, I have never understood it; but for some, it has alot of meaning.

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 8:43:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: pinksugarsub

What does the phrase "under consideration" mean to Y/you? Do Y/you think it's like an engagement ring for a collar? How should the P/parties involved deal with third persons who don't know about the "under consideration" O/other? Is "under consideration" a two way street between the Dom/me and the subbie or slave?

I LOVE that phrase, it makes me {giggle}.

To me, it means nothing. I remember seeing it somewhere that "when someone contacts you they are putting 'under consideration' just by saying that they are interested, so in turn they have already decided to 'consider' you."

I will admit, I have used the phrase before when I was new to M/s; then, I figured out 'Under the Protection of ......' is/was a more accuarate phrase to use.

I don't see 'under consideration' like an engagement ring, thats not a fair comparison. It means nothing to me, it just means 'newbie' in my book, someone who doesn't understand {not being negative or trying to put anyone down.. just stating that from my experience only newcomers use that phrase}; when I was involved with Masters in the past and had 'under consideration' up, I STILL got an obserd (sp?) amount of emails wanting to persue something, when I looked back at the phrase, I realized what I stated above, it means nothing. Putting 'Under the Protection of......' or 'Involved with....' etc is a LOT more realistic and exact, verses, 'I'm talking to/with someone, nothing serious.'

I think in lue of using 'under consideration' a better phrase would be 'Involved.. NOT Looking.' It is to the point and its easy to understand.

I do believe realtionships are a two-way street, if one person has 'NOT Looking' or 'NOT Avaliable' up, then both (all) should. Otherwise, its showing a lop-sided relationships, where one person is evidently more serious than the other person(s). Even now, the man I am involved with has not checked his page on the side we both met on, and all my profiles, say that I am invovled, [or along those lines]. That was a mutual decision after we decided to persue things.

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 8:47:42 AM

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Whatever it means to the people involved. For me & my slave, it meant she immediately ceased all communication with the other men who were contacting her, other than to tell them that she was now "under consideration" by another master. It also meant that we were progressing to a real life meeting and taking it to the next level.

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What does the phrase "under consideration" mean to Y/you? Do Y/you think it's like an engagement ring for a collar? How should the P/parties involved deal with third persons who don't know about the "under consideration" O/other? Is "under consideration" a two way street between the Dom/me and the subbie or slave?

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 8:49:42 AM

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When I see "under consideration", I wonder, what is being considered? If he likes you? If you are suitable? Does he think maybe, but not quite sure .... yet? I don't understand why it is necessary. To me it's another convention of the lifestyle, such as velcro collars, training collars. I guess if vanilla people can be exclusive; we can be considered.

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 8:55:21 AM

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Whatever it means to the people involved. For me & my slave, it meant she immediately ceased all communication with the other men who were contacting her, other than to tell them that she was now "under consideration" by another master. It also meant that we were progressing to a real life meeting and taking it to the next level.

Wouldn't that mean that you were "progressing" and not actually "in consideration" at all? You'd both decided already to take it to real life and take it to the next level, so you were progressing in that and both considering where to take it beyond that.

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 8:58:05 AM

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i personally like the term and find it has alot of meaning in the context in which it is being used between us - which is how it should be~

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 9:04:47 AM

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I got a BDSM decoder ring in a box of Cracker Jacks, and "under consideration" translates to "we're dating".

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 9:08:26 AM

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ROFL!!!!

i am still looking for a BDSM decoder!! Since i don't eat crackerjacks, i am hoping it will be in the next box of Kashi cereal i eat! LOL!

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 9:13:04 AM

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I just ran over to dictionary.com and according to them,

'under consideration' means -
Being thought about or discussed, as in Your application is under consideration; we'll let you know next week. This idiom was first recorded in 1665.

So, it would hold to be true that if you contact someone you are in fact putting them 'under consideration.' Not neccessarly dating, or a relationship, just something to be discussed, etc. My decoder ring said, 'use a more specific and less vague/overused phrase.' Don't ya LOVE the new digital ones.

Sorry, I have been studying langustics (sp?) and how words are put together means a LOT and says a lot.

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 9:25:53 AM

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Actually, we were progressing from the time I first contacted her and she replied. We were progressing while she was "under consideration" and we were only in discussions with each other. We are still "progressing" and will hopefully be "progressing" in our relationship for a very long time.

But, nothing had been decided about my slave until we met in real life and I decided to take ownership of her. While she was "under consideration", we did reach a point in our discussions, online and on the phone, to take things to the next level, which, for us, was a real life meeting. So, in fact, she was still "under consideration", up until we actually met in real life and I told her that, from that point on, she was no longer "under consideration", because she was now "owned".

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Whatever it means to the people involved. For me & my slave, it meant she immediately ceased all communication with the other men who were contacting her, other than to tell them that she was now "under consideration" by another master. It also meant that we were progressing to a real life meeting and taking it to the next level.

Wouldn't that mean that you were "progressing" and not actually "in consideration" at all? You'd both decided already to take it to real life and take it to the next level, so you were progressing in that and both considering where to take it beyond that.

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 9:27:01 AM

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Sorry, I have been studying langustics (sp?) and how words are put together means a LOT and says a lot.

Linguistics

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RE: "Under Consideration" - 5/16/2007 9:29:25 AM

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When I see "under consideration", I wonder, what is being considered? If he likes you? If you are suitable? Does he think maybe, but not quite sure .... yet? I don't understand why it is necessary. To me it's another convention of the lifestyle, such as velcro collars, training collars. I guess if vanilla people can be exclusive; we can be considered.

With me, he was considering my suitability to him based on our chemistry, my desire and willingness to submit to him and how I expressed it, my level of baggage and my willingness or lack thereof to look at it, my demeanor & attitude, my sense of humor, etc.

Think of it as "dating" before "going steady." Although for me, there was nothing "dating" about it.

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