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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 6/17/2007 11:23:38 AM   
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My former slave had a eating disorder when I first met her, I cured her of that by being strict about her eating, but in the end she got a little plump.  I accepted that to keep her healthy.  My point being is that eating disorders are pretty common so before a Master attempts to regulate a slaves eating habits he should be fully aware of her mental history and what is really healthy for her.  Once that has been determine it is his duty to make sure she is at the weight she should be for physical and metal health.


Yes, but what you're skinny not because of eating disorders but you still want to get fatter?

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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 6/17/2007 12:24:33 PM   
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Not sure what you are trying to say/ask.

I should be more clear and say when I first met her she would throw her food up.  I helped her with that, but than she got a little chubby.  Later she might find another DOM that does not understand her history and put her on a diet causing her to start throwing up her food again.  My only point is that eating disorders can be dangerious and one should know his slave before treading here.  I'm not saying that weight enforcement is bad.  A slave should be perfected as her master sees it.  I'm just advising he be mindful.

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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 6/17/2007 12:37:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 714Lovin

Not sure what you are trying to say/ask.

I should be more clear and say when I first met her she would throw her food up.  I helped her with that, but than she got a little chubby.  Later she might find another DOM that does not understand her history and put her on a diet causing her to start throwing up her food again.  My only point is that eating disorders can be dangerious and one should know his slave before treading here.  I'm not saying that weight enforcement is bad.  A slave should be perfected as her master sees it.  I'm just advising he be mindful.


Thanks for clarifying
What I'm saying is that we shouldn't assume that only because someone is skinny is because she's anorexic or having an eating disorder. I am skinny but don't have an eating disorder, I eat like a pig sometimes but still nothing. I was more interested in forcefeeding or spoonfeeding by the Dom which I don't know if becomes some sort of feederism.

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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 6/17/2007 12:44:57 PM   
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All the chunky girls out there are hating you right now for this comment:

"I am skinny but don't have an eating disorder, I eat like a pig sometimes but still nothing."

I could almost hear all of them saying in a single voice "Bitch!" lol

I did have to force feed her and monitor her eating happen extensively for while.  It was fun actually, but also very helpful to her.  Control food in take is important for any slave I think, but it should be healthy.  A win/win like all D/s should be ;-)


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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 6/17/2007 1:21:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 714Lovin

All the chunky girls out there are hating you right now for this comment:

"I am skinny but don't have an eating disorder, I eat like a pig sometimes but still nothing."

I could almost hear all of them saying in a single voice "Bitch!" lol

I did have to force feed her and monitor her eating happen extensively for while.  It was fun actually, but also very helpful to her.  Control food in take is important for any slave I think, but it should be healthy.  A win/win like all D/s should be ;-)




Yes, I see your point but everybody has his/her own cross to bear. My cross is to be skinny adn have trouble finding rubber clothes in size 0. I'd really love to find a Dom who doens't mind about my skinniness and will even forcefeed me (so verging on Daddy/daughter to my eyes)

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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 6/17/2007 1:28:06 PM   
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I notice not many Doms like BBW's. I am a BBW. I have been on both sides of the weight equation. I would love to be thin again. The women on my one Grandmother's side are large and gain weight. I didn't escape it..Also to be honest i don't exercise enough and the bottom line is i love food more than i love me. I have no Dom yet but wonder about the weight issue with most Doms. I had talked to a Dom and He told me i am a Daddy's girl and frankly i don't know what that means. (I am new to the l/s). Been going to munches for over 2 years but have had no play etc.

How would the Dom's in here approach weight loss on a sub like me?

tyvm

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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 6/17/2007 1:32:09 PM   
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Carrot and stick approach with a lot of supervision

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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 6/17/2007 6:48:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 714Lovin

My former slave had a eating disorder when I first met her, I cured her of that by being strict about her eating, but in the end she got a little plump.  I accepted that to keep her healthy.  My point being is that eating disorders are pretty common so before a Master attempts to regulate a slaves eating habits he should be fully aware of her mental history and what is really healthy for her.  Once that has been determine it is his duty to make sure she is at the weight she should be for physical and metal health.


This was one of the types of posts I was looking for.
My OP had nothing to do with attraction and relationships.
It has to do with ME losing a few pounds, and reading about Dominants that have
been able to assist and help their submissives lose weight.
I belong to the camp that when you surrender yourself to your Dominant unless you list something as
a hard limit----> it can be put on the table.
That includes activities you might not enjoy! Imagine that!
So yes unless you list certain activities as a hard limit, a Dominant has the right to expect and influence

weight control, diet, the foods you eat and exercise, clothing, make-up, etc.
IMHO

< Message edited by MzMia -- 6/17/2007 6:52:01 PM >


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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 3/21/2008 9:40:36 AM   
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Eureka---this is more or less the thread I've wanted to see, concerning weight-control and domination dynamics, when I posted on the general board under "sadorexia."

Now, after reading all the male-female stories, I'm wondering in addition if there are any male-male couples who have had this experience, as I did.


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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 3/21/2008 11:03:41 AM   
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Keeping a girl in diapers 24 7 is a great incentive to not be a pig. Seeing as what goes in one end will inevitably end up coming out of the other.

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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 3/21/2008 12:29:08 PM   
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I don't ever talk about or engage in "weight control," "loosing weight" or anything that uses weight as a metric.  I think that is unhealthy, unproductive, and reflects an enfrnachisement in the sick rhetoric we have produced around our bodies and our health. 

The more someone talks and thinks in terms of "weight," "loosing pounds" and "dieting," the farther they move from health, and the physical beauty that springs from health.  I don't believe in conspiracies, but it almost makes you want to think there is one, a conspiracy of the "weigth loss industry" to make people sick, and hate their bodies in their sickness.

I have "enforced" health within a relationship before, but I would really say it was more like coaching, inculcating and modelling.  Health means functional, strong bodies, and a modality for eating that encompasses the rela purpose of food: to fuel us and to be a pleasure.  Food is wonderful--we all deserve to be fed, to be fed well, and to take pleasure in our food.  Once we turn away from the sickness of dieting, the sick, horrible self-loathing of denial, and instead eat joyfully, we can let go of the maladaptions around eating.  We can stop gorging, sneaking, starving, purging, junking, and start eating.

It's such a pleasure to see someone stop being sick, and start being healthy.  To train their bodies to be strong and powerful, and to eat with pleasure and purpose, and to be healthy. 

The impulse and desire to look good, to want to have a healthy, attractive body is good and wholesome.  We should have healthy, attractive bodies that reflect our wholeness and strength.  Form follows function, and once a person stops weighing themselves, and counting calories, and doing portion control, and all the sick, sick, ultimately suicidal tropes of the denial/loss culture, they can start to make their bodies healthy.

And once you are healthy, once you have made your body functionally powerful, you will find that your form reflects it, and you can stop denying, and permit yourself to be ok.

We were made to run, jump, twist, squat down, lift up, push and pull, and once that is pursued, you are on the road to health and beauty.


[Emphasis added]  This is so well stated and, I believe, right on. It's a mindset antithetical to that which the diet industry has perpetrated on the American public for so long...and we all know how successful the industry is in achieving their (stated) goals.

Food is just...food. It shouldn't be the cause of such pain.

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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 3/21/2008 10:03:52 PM   
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I check my slaves weight every few days. If it ever increases I will put her on a diet. She has to maintain a healthy weight not to low and definately not higher then the weight guidlines for her height.


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ORIGINAL: MzMia

Okay I am taking a big risk here, and I am not trying to start
another friggin fat thread.
Thus said, I am in the process of buying a bathing suit and getting
ready for a long, hot summer and many fun times in the pool.
Of course, I want/need to lose at least 10-15 pounds to feel more comfortable
in my bathing suit.
I wonder if it would be easier, IF I was a submissive and had a Master to help,
make and exert control over what I eat.
How many Masters {men and women} are able to enforce and control their
submissives weight and influence their dietary habits?
Thank you in advance, now let me eat a few more chips and find a cold brew.


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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 3/23/2008 9:57:49 AM   
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you have to want someone to control your weight and find ways to help you lose it,,its not something that concerns me so much as what the sub/slaves wants/needs from me..i have a slave in training that wants this so i put her on a regiment diet.its up to them to maintain the regiment you have given them(if they dont reside in your home)my alpha is always trying to lose the extra few pounds but it isnt something she has wished for me to maintain.

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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 3/23/2008 11:19:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: winterlight

I notice not many Doms like BBW's. I am a BBW. I have been on both sides of the weight equation. I would love to be thin again. The women on my one Grandmother's side are large and gain weight. I didn't escape it..Also to be honest i don't exercise enough and the bottom line is i love food more than i love me. I have no Dom yet but wonder about the weight issue with most Doms. I had talked to a Dom and He told me i am a Daddy's girl and frankly i don't know what that means. (I am new to the l/s). Been going to munches for over 2 years but have had no play etc.

How would the Dom's in here approach weight loss on a sub like me?

tyvm


Depends on the dom. There are overweight doms too, you know. With age, the metabolism slows down but the taste buds don't.

An intelligent dom will know that telling someone she's too fat to be attractive may result in self esteem issues. Not to mention resentment.

The better way is for both of you to start adhering to a healthier diet and work in a doable exercise program. That means if she's a single mother, she may not have either the time nor the money to spend two hours daily at a gym, not to mention needing to pick them up, feed them, supervise homework, do housework etc.

And yes, there are those who announce they don't care about her other issues, she has to go to the gym after work daily without helping pay for it. Probably the same types who insist on 6" heels all day every day, including at the gym.

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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 3/23/2008 11:21:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: winterlight

I notice not many Doms like BBW's. I am a BBW. I have been on both sides of the weight equation. I would love to be thin again. The women on my one Grandmother's side are large and gain weight. I didn't escape it..Also to be honest i don't exercise enough and the bottom line is i love food more than i love me. I have no Dom yet but wonder about the weight issue with most Doms. I had talked to a Dom and He told me i am a Daddy's girl and frankly i don't know what that means. (I am new to the l/s). Been going to munches for over 2 years but have had no play etc.

How would the Dom's in here approach weight loss on a sub like me?

tyvm
many,many Doms thouroughly enjoy and prefer a bbw sub-you sound adorable-dont change a thing

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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 3/23/2008 3:30:51 PM   
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I do agree with MasterCurious that you have to want someone to control your weight and find ways to help you lose it.  It ends up being a team effort from both.

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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 3/23/2008 6:53:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JockTrainee190

Eureka---this is more or less the thread I've wanted to see, concerning weight-control and domination dynamics, when I posted on the general board under "sadorexia."

Now, after reading all the male-female stories, I'm wondering in addition if there are any male-male couples who have had this experience, as I did.


lol, it's back!
I think this is an issue to many people, regardless if they are M/f, or M/m!

We all have to deal with health and weight issues, regardless of whether we are in
this lifestyle or not.
If a Dominant has control beyond the bedroom, than they should be involved in helping/and helping to enable healthier eating habits, and assisting in weight control {if
weight is an issue}.

< Message edited by MzMia -- 3/23/2008 7:04:14 PM >


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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 3/23/2008 7:15:57 PM   
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not a problem.  if you truly want my help... i can

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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 3/23/2008 8:27:55 PM   
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I was not ordered to quit smoking, eat healthy, work out or any of that. What I was told was that I had better damn well take care of his property to the best of my ability. He doesn't micro-manage, he knows me well enough to figure I should be able to handle it

   He values me more than his Harley (and thats saying something) I know how well he takes care of it, so I figured I better make it happen.

  I quit smoking 8 months ago, joined weight watchers, and recently signed up for yoga, pilates and kick boxing. I also take my dog to the park so that the beast can walk me awhile.

     Not easy, not fun (at first). Now I feel pretty proud of myself though, and so does he. I'm always a work in progress and he certainly keeps me on my toes.

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RE: How many Dominants enforce weight control? - 3/23/2008 8:45:42 PM   
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Lacking self control is a big deal for me, I control other people very well but when it comes to OMG who the hell ate my WHOLE box of doughnuts I am a freak... it's like I black out. I have tried a few times to purge after I realize what I have done but I honestly have no gag reflex.... Thus I feel worse and settle down with some comfort food to fix it... viscious cycle... I need a Dom to stop me!!! 

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