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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 7/21/2007 4:36:38 PM

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soooo...how about a slight hijack? What about Doms who share their subs in non-sexual ways?? I happen to be a carpenter...Sir is always loaning me out to his friends, or to our local community when things need fixed or built. When our Leather community has an event and needs volunteers..Sir is always quick to volunteer me...

Does the fact that he is loaning out my services change when the service is something other than sex? I don't think so...but Id like to hear more opinions....All of my talents, both sexual and non, belong to him to decide what to do with.

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 7/21/2007 4:58:33 PM

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GhitaAmati,

Makes sense; I don't really see any difference, conceptually. Certain cultures may assign value judgments of different connotation, though. For me, there would be little difference, except that sex and/or play sometimes carry additional risks.

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 7/21/2007 5:02:28 PM

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I personally have been hurt a whole lot more often in my workshop than I have in bed....grin

~~edited to add that came out all wrong...OK, so Ive probably been hurt more often in bed but definantly worse damage out in the workshop...lasting non-consensual damage...

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 7/21/2007 5:54:05 PM

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Okay, good point. But, and this is a rhetorical question or somesuch (i.e. none of my darn business, but answer it to yourself) how many times have you been in the workshop vs in someone else's bed, and how many times have you had accidents in the workshop vs contracting STDs or otherwise having "accidents" in someone else's bed?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I suspect the statistical grounds for one of these is better than the other. Again, not my business, though.

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 7/22/2007 10:01:05 AM

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Sorry aswad, I honestly meant my previous comment along the lines of a smart ass response...

True, I've spent much more time around power tools than I have in bed, but I take risks to negate the dangers in both places. IE: saftey goggles and shields on saws and other normal precautions...in bed that equates to condoms and trusting my Sir to not hand me over to just anybody off the street.

But, take away the fact that my example was construction...does a Master/Dom own a slaves/subs non-sexual services any more or less than her suxual ones? Its for the Master to choose who to share his things with, Sir loans out ladders and chainsaws, but only to people he trusts to take care of those tools and bring them back in good condition. Same with me...

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 7/23/2007 8:44:47 AM

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ORIGINAL: GhitaAmati

Sorry aswad, I honestly meant my previous comment along the lines of a smart ass response...

No need to apologize. I should have read it as such.

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True, I've spent much more time around power tools than I have in bed, but I take risks to negate the dangers in both places. IE: saftey goggles and shields on saws and other normal precautions...in bed that equates to condoms and trusting my Sir to not hand me over to just anybody off the street.

~nod~

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But, take away the fact that my example was construction...does a Master/Dom own a slaves/subs non-sexual services any more or less than her suxual ones?

As far as I'm concerned, this depends on the nature of the relationship.

The Master gets to do with an owned body as he wishes, and the same thing for skills, at least how I see it. Assuming a slave is both good at fixing cars and giving head, I see no reason why either should be different in regard to what the Master may demand. Of course, most have restrictions on their use, so these may apply. If the restrictions aren't specific about it, however, I'd say any difference comes down to consequences and the risk of incurring undesired ones.

A slave who cannot be shared sexually, where the reason is a restriction on health risks, is one who cannot be lent to others for services that are equally risky. If the restriction is due to some concept of monogamy, then I think it would be more correct to describe the person as a submissive in a monogamous relationship than a slave, although one may of course still use the latter word for other reasons than proximity to the literal sense of the word.

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Its for the Master to choose who to share his things with, Sir loans out ladders and chainsaws, but only to people he trusts to take care of those tools and bring them back in good condition. Same with me...

I concur, though I would place greater value on such a rare and precious thing as a slave. A pen, I will forget ever having lent to anyone. A CD, I will lend to anyone who hasn't demonstrated that they will neglect to return it, or demonstrated that it will be in poor condition. A laptop, I will lend to one I am sure will return it in good condition.

Whether I will let someone use a slave, depends on the slave (both in terms of restrictions on her use, and in terms of how valued she is), the person who wants to use her, and what she would be used for. I would not be inclined to lend one to a stranger, though I would not object to most "casual" use in my presence.

Condoms, for me, come down to "would I have unprotected sex with this person myself?"

The answer to that, absent having locked them up for 6 months (incubation time) and tested them for STDs, would quite uniformly be "no". I limit the risks I expose myself and my property to quite significantly, insofar as I am aware of the risk and know how to limit or avoid it.

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 7/23/2007 1:28:22 PM

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I agree with nyrisa. The day when we could just have sex with no consequences is gone. You owe it to all in your life to take the utmost care. If he has any brains and isn't just on a power trip or filling some submissive need in himself to be cucked, he will have no problems talking it over with you.
I've seen too many doms who are fake and just use their being a dom to get sex or fulfill other kinks. BE CAREFULL.
Michael

nyrisa ... I love that quote :)

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 7/23/2007 6:07:01 PM

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Depending on the nature of the relationship, it may be up to him to take care, rather than her. YMMV.

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 1/31/2008 1:21:03 AM

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It has been several months and the time is coming near. Master has made arrangements for another sub to join Master and myself for O/our first poly relationship. i have agreed to all that Master has set in place. My question is still the same, why Master? If one is so precious, as You state, then why do You share?

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 1/31/2008 1:35:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: mine2share

It has been several months and the time is coming near. Master has made arrangements for another sub to join Master and myself for O/our first poly relationship. i have agreed to all that Master has set in place. My question is still the same, why Master? If one is so precious, as You state, then why do You share?

I haven't read through the 12 pages, so this may have already been asked. Have you asked your Master why he wants to share? Is he wanting to share you with another Dom or is he wanting you to share him with another sub?

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 1/31/2008 4:45:39 AM

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my Master compares me to His prized sports car -- if He trusted someone who asked to drive it, He might agree, provided He was in the car too. But He wouldn't allow some random person to drive it and He'd be damned sure that nothing happened to the car.

When we have discussed it (because i really have no problem with it, it is a fantasy of mine), He has stated that He would be in the room the entire time and that He sees it as His job to be sure of my safety, including condoms,etc. It's something we have not done yet, though.

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 1/31/2008 8:37:51 AM

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This is some thing that has come up between Master and I. He would like to Dance with me and another Master or Mistress. I don't have a problem with that, heck i know I wear his arm out at times and I am sure that he would love to have someone to change off with in a tag team. We have even tried it, and it worked for a bit, it was someone I had been with sexually before with all precautions, but never danced with. Then reality reared it's nasty head. The gentlman in question had been with someone in the month just before w/o protection. He had found out that she was a LOT more active than just with him. My brakes went on with that news fast enough that I should have been mounted with ABS. My life and health aside there is no way that I will ever risk Master's health with the nasties out there. (SHUDDER) The dance went on, but nothing more.

In childhood I had been used as an ante in several poker games. Dear ol' dad was real good about sharing. I dealt with that as best I could. I survived the 60's and the 70's and all the Free Love and Orgies that went on. Sex is just not important to me, nice exercise in bumping uglies and it rates right up there with deciding which shoes to wear with an outfit, the black heels, the black boots, the black flats or the black sandals

Orgasms from it never happen, and the only satisfaction comes from making the other person happy. Dance with me and pain and I can multi-orgasmic, but I guess after so long I will never be a normally sexually oriented person.

For Master I would do it, but I will always try to make it as safe for HIM, as well as myself as possible.

Why a Dominant wants to share out a slave has as many answers as there are Dominants that want to do it. The only one who can answer that question, is him. The only one who knows how even the thought of it affects you is you, unless you tell him. Talk honestly, and respectfully, and LISTEN to what he has to say.

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 1/31/2008 10:06:44 AM

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Idk, but it sounds to me that 'master' is sharing himself, rather than his slave, if he's bringing another sub into the pic.
Another question I have is in regard to your name "minetoshare".
When he (as I'm assuming he did) gave you this name, did that not give you a clue?
sheesh.
Plus, this all should have been negotiated before any type of collar or D/s relationship was accepted.

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 1/31/2008 10:25:00 AM

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Idk, but it sounds to me that 'master' is sharing himself, rather than his slave, if he's bringing another sub into the pic.
~Christina

Yep, I picked up on that re-reading the OP. It does look more like he is bringing in another sub not sharing out the one he has. If that is so, then perhaps she needs to understand that while she may indeed be his precious and primary, the other may go places she cannot safely go for him, no matter how much she may want to.

That is what my Master is seeking, someone to fit in our household, who can handle some of my needs (I am also a sadist as well as a masochist), who can satisfy his need for submission (SAM not Sub) and who can free up some of my time with the household stuff as well as he considers that an interference to my utilizing all of my skills for writing, web design, etc and his comfort.

Not easy to face that you cannot be all things to your Dominant, but, the reality is, you can't always do everything they need. Sigh.

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 1/31/2008 10:59:56 AM

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It has been several months and the time is coming near. Master has made arrangements for another sub to join Master and myself for O/our first poly relationship. i have agreed to all that Master has set in place. My question is still the same, why Master? If one is so precious, as You state, then why do You share?

Consider the opposite question... if one is so precious, why NOT share?

You're asking why he is wired the way he is. Why is anyone heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, emotionally/physically monogamous, emotionally/physically non-monogamous?? There is no answer that will satisfy you. You have to decide if you can live in a non-monogamous relationship. And if not, then get out.

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 1/31/2008 12:37:36 PM

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There isn't a single reason why someone shares their things. He may not want to get emotionally too close. He may want to humiliate you (seems to be working). It may be whore training. It may be proof that he really does own you, you do who you're told to do. He may enjoy "repossessing" you after you've been used by someone else. Etc. I know I greatly enjoy seeing my sub well used.

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 1/31/2008 1:22:33 PM

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I confess, I don't understand this concept either. Involving another sub isn't, to my mind, sharing you, its him getting off with two people instead of one. Sharing you would be letting another Dom use you, and I can't grasp this idea. I also haven't read through all the posts in this thread, but it would seem that some Masters jealously guard their slaves, while others seem content to share. That's fine. To each his own. But it comes down to what YOU want and what you are comfortable with.

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 1/31/2008 1:30:02 PM

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OP, the bottom line is this: you asked the same question months ago and now again. The answer is still the same.

You have agreed to do something yet obviously feel very much upset by it. So...either do it and feel like crap or do not do it and retain self-respect.

I am not judging poly or anything else, just the distress I hear in the OP's question, it is loud and clear.

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 1/31/2008 1:40:12 PM

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one dosn't really own until it is given to others and it returns to be given again. m

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RE: Master why do you want to share me? - 1/31/2008 1:42:38 PM

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That is your opinion, I happen to disagree with that statement. But then again, I don't really believe you can be owned, just figuratively and metaphorically. So with that said, I would not allow myself to be shared, nor would I share.

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