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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 10:53:09 AM

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lucern:
You might want to read Dr. Turnbull's body of work before being so dismissive.
thompson

Thompson, my dismissiveness comes from having to read dozens of ethnographies of that era (1960's for The Forest People), most of which saw their population as timeless and static. When later anthropologists would go to study them, they had always changed. On top of that, my understanding of functionalism and structural-functionalism leads me to believe that I will be able to predict what kind of analyses Turnbull is going to do, particularly since he studied under Evans-Pritchard, functionalist extraordinaire. However, you're absolutely right. I know nothing about this particular ethnographer, so I'll pick up The Mbuti Pygmies: Change and Adaptation, his 1983 work from the library*. On the reverse, I'd urge you to read a bit about the trends I've mentioned to get a broader perspective.

*That wasn't meant to sound sarcastic, btw. That he studied under Evans Pritchard is the extent of my current knowledge on Turnbull.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 10:55:01 AM

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I wonder if he'll breed with a human intern and produce hybrid Reptiloid-human offspring I can sample.

Najakcharmer:
I don't think so...he seems more intent on fucking the American public than some intern.
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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 12:37:37 PM

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I am sorry to have to disappoint you: GB is not a Reptiloid; but he is evil. Neither am I aware of any reptiloid alien species. People should not believe just any conspiracy websites that they happen to stumble across, you know. But I am sure that you do know.

Sorry, I'm just going to continue to believe that Bush is a Reptiloid, because it's just a cooler theory.

Oh wait, that isn't how scientific inquiry works? Imagine that.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 12:46:18 PM

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Sorry, I'm just going to continue to believe that Bush is a Reptiloid, because it's just a cooler theory.

lol

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Oh wait, that isn't how scientific inquiry works? Imagine that.

Sometimes a lucky guess is the only way to arrive at a correct answer...

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 12:50:22 PM

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It's the incredible fuckin' thread.

It seems to be dead on it's feet; nevertheless, someone comes along to revive it. Anything will do: reptoids, brown shirts etc.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 1:12:41 PM

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Then. Stop.Writing.In.It.Purrrleeze.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 1:19:27 PM

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Then. Stop.Writing.In.It.Purrrleeze.

I was in the process of crafting a poem.......from the heart........"Oh swift, feline kittin". I've scrapped it and moved onto the next Frenchie.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 2:20:03 PM

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Sorry, I'm just going to continue to believe that Bush is a Reptiloid, because it's just a cooler theory.

Najakcharmer,

I normally love your posts, but I am sitting here in a deep state of shock and revulsion at the idea that you would wish to pollute the Repitilian gene pool with that man's DNA.

Sinergy

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 2:22:05 PM

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Your posts in this thread confuse me Alumbrado, damned if I can figure out which side your are on lol again

Not surprised... you aren't the only one who here thinks in tems of 'sides', instead of in terms of objectivity.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 2:24:37 PM

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Genty, I am speechless. I mean, I admired you for being from Manchester, like so many of my pop heroes; I admired your beliefs and politics; you can't hold on. You must tell all!

This half-Scottish chick awaits.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 2:34:57 PM

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And you might want to read Kuhn

Alumbrado:
The Structure of Scientific Revolutions was required reading way back when I was in school.
thompson

As it was way back when I was teaching.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 2:57:25 PM

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Genty, I am speechless. I mean, I admired you for being from Manchester, like so many of my pop heroes; I admired your beliefs and politics; you can't hold on. You must tell all!

This half-Scottish chick awaits.

A poem, by NGent.

Wee lassie, I'll tell thee,
Dost thou know how much thou induces the horn?,
Take my hand, and together we'll throw off the stockings of oppression,
For you and I shall bathe in the garden of love.

Poet and internet lothario,
NGent fae Durham.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 3:00:42 PM

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lucern: refering to your post 540
last paragraph first. I said racism not race.

As for paragraph 1 once again I am in mind boggle territory. My original point was that social cultural physical intellectual indicators have all been interpreted to mean that racial divisions exist within the human species by definition.

If those characteristics that we see in say Afro Caribbeans are defined as being racial identifiers then that definition cannot be refuted by recognising that the genotype of this group is similar to that of another group defined as being of another race with different identifiers
That argument transcends PC thinking and is logically true,

Whether that definition was enthusiasticaly subscribed to by those that made it simply because it supported their own sense of self worth or prejudice again is irrelevant.

Your posts are seemingly so calm and yet so opaque it worries me that I may well be not understanding what you are trying to say.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 3:03:30 PM

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Genty, I am speechless. I mean, I admired you for being from Manchester, like so many of my pop heroes; I admired your beliefs and politics; you can't hold on. You must tell all!

This half-Scottish chick awaits.

A poem, by NGent.

Wee lassie, I'll tell thee,
Dost thou know how much thou induces the horn?,
Take my hand, and together we'll throw off the stockings of oppression,
For you and I shall bathe in the garden of love.

Poet and internet lothario,
NGent fae Durham.

Can we speak in private?

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 3:08:03 PM

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I normally love your posts, but I am sitting here in a deep state of shock and revulsion at the idea that you would wish to pollute the Repitilian gene pool with that man's DNA.

Yeah, I guess breeding lizards that are het for evil is probably a bad idea. That, and they would be remarkably ugly.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 3:16:54 PM

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Genty, I am speechless. I mean, I admired you for being from Manchester, like so many of my pop heroes; I admired your beliefs and politics; you can't hold on. You must tell all!

This half-Scottish chick awaits.

A poem, by NGent.

Wee lassie, I'll tell thee,
Dost thou know how much thou induces the horn?,
Take my hand, and together we'll throw off the stockings of oppression,
For you and I shall bathe in the garden of love.

Poet and internet lothario,
NGent fae Durham.

Can we speak in private?

Let's.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 3:43:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Genty, I am speechless. I mean, I admired you for being from Manchester, like so many of my pop heroes; I admired your beliefs and politics; you can't hold on. You must tell all!

This half-Scottish chick awaits.

A poem, by NGent.

Wee lassie, I'll tell thee,
Dost thou know how much thou induces the horn?,
Take my hand, and together we'll throw off the stockings of oppression,
For you and I shall bathe in the garden of love.

Poet and internet lothario,
NGent fae Durham.

Can we speak in private?

Let's.

Oooooooohhh I say! It's your lucky day, I just washed my hair.

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 3:51:14 PM

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I wish you lovey doveys would love and dove somewhere else. Try the chat rooms or private mail or something. Thats what I wish

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 3:55:27 PM

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I am not being sarcastic or anything -but am commenting because: I am amazed - I was gone out of town for almost a week, and this thread is still going strong! Must be a really good thread!

So - Did you guys figure out yet if there are races in humanity? Or not? (just teasing ya'll, no offense intended).

- Susan

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RE: There isn't such a thing as 'races' in humanity. - 8/9/2007 4:09:12 PM

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Yes we figured out that there is no 'race' biologically and that it is a human belief (and will) to believe that there are 'races' at all. We made progress, and I washed my hair.

Maybe there is a God :-) ?

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