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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 1:45:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, "Mother Susan", my point is that if India can afford upwards of $100 Billion dollars on a nuclear arsenal why can't they afford to take care of their own people?
Was that by design? "We'll let guilt-afflicted foreigners take care of our poor and we'll have the money for nuclear weapons."


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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 1:47:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's not the topic of this thread, Popeye. Start another one if you want to debate that - at least with me.

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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 2:04:39 PM   
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I mail donations to World Vision charitable organization - and I am neither a starving Ethiopian child, nor am I a Hindu - the child receiving some of those donations is, though. I am not a nurse, but I donate to the Red Cross.

Please stop doing that.

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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 2:10:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Rule: Well, for the immediate future (like the next few hours), I will. because I have to go visit someone in the hospital right now (seriously). Gotta go.

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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 3:16:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		People tear down what they don't understand or cannot fathom, or what they fear.  Mother Theresa gave her life to the poor.  No one can dispute that.  She was a catholic nun who upheld the teachings of the church, many don't agree with those teachings but that should not diminish her good work.  The fact that she went on for years getting up at 4:30 each day to do her work with the poor, despite her "crisis of faith", tells me she had a greater and deeper faith then anyone could ever fathom.  She was a human just as Jesus was a human when he was crucified and cried out "Why have you forsaken me" - We expect more from her? 

Susan you'll never get those questions answered because they don't have them. 

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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 3:18:02 PM   
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I'm not defending her ... is that so hard to understand? Wait, never mind ... I already know that answer.


Pray for me at mass tomorrow: I need it more than Theresa.

PS: ever thought of having that winking problem looked at?



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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 3:22:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just want to say right here in front of everyone...I doubted myself and my place in the hereafter long before it became cool.

(Mother Theresa gets all the good press).

(Okay...I know...I'm going to Hell).

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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 3:26:35 PM   
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I just want to say right here in front of everyone...I doubted myself and my place in the hereafter long before it became cool.

(Mother Theresa gets all the good press).

(Okay...I know...I'm going to Hell).


Well, it's all very interesting that the Vatican is "releasing" Theresa's correspondance and private musings. Some would say, timely: how much will they rake out of her published memoirs?


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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 3:29:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmmm... reread the thread: nobody doubts she heard voices calling her to do what she did. Many of us, however, put ourselves in the awkward position of daring to question a XXth Century religious icon. That's where the debate started. Well, it started on the "eradicating women" thread... appropriately enough.

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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 3:33:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have purposely avoided that thread. I have a feeling it might get me "noticed" by my favourite mod. I have been in a rather mellow mood and not feeling paticularly moderatable.....

Is moderatable a word? Ohhhhhhhh Ron/neeeeee...

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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 3:34:27 PM   
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Note: I still have to share my birthday with hers...


I dont know how you can get out of bed having to endure the same birthday.......
Then I think.......wait a minute.....that's one/two day(s) from now.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 3:43:55 PM   
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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 3:48:14 PM   
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY!



Thanks for that.

You're right. Not only is tomorrow the commemoration of Theresa's onslaught on to an innocent world (huh), it's also the reminder that I was born far too many years ago... Yep. A present of incredible value might just do the trick to cheer me up though...  

Unlike Theresa, I'm fucking venal.

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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 3:50:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Welllll, I've never set any peeners ( I learnt that from Ron/ne) on fire, at least literally............... Threatened to chop a few off though.

Oh wait, wrong thread.

Sooooo, I hear a birthday cake will be in order a few days from now. Would it be un dommely of me to bake it?

Damn, wrong thread again.

Well, there went my cool factor.......... maybe I should start a whining thread or somthin.......

wandering off to cause trouble someplace else....

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RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 4:17:15 PM   
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          < Message edited by SusanofO -- 8/25/2007 4:19:50 PM >

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          RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 4:19:42 PM   
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          RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 4:22:18 PM   
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          Status: offline           		Sorry. But that doesn't mean other peoople might not enjoy seeing or hearing you play spoons, if that makes you feel better.

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          RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 4:34:13 PM   
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          Status: offline           		So? It was Rosalind Franklin that observed that DNA has a spiral structure, but her bosses got the Nobel prize for that discovery.
           
          The science prizes are the most credible, but Nicola Tesla did not get a Nobel prize and when he died all his research notes were confiscated.
           
          Nobel prizes for literature and for peace are highly politicized and are not credible at all.
           
          Even if a Nobel committee is not itself corrupted, they are just a black box: if garbage in, then garbage out.
           
          You cling tenaciously, perhaps desperately, to Institutions and Reputations and to a belief in the decency of all people, but those are respectively as good as the rock or mud they are built on, and not all people are decent - including some of those in Institutions and with Reputations.
           
          Such blind faith on the one hand is admirable. On the other hand you are an innocent walking in the wild - and there are predators out there.

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          RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 5:19:41 PM   
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          Scarlett, You cling tenaciously, perhaps desperately, to Institutions and Reputations and to a belief in the decency of all people, but those are respectively as good as the rock or mud they are built on, and not all people are decent - including some of those in Institutions and with Reputations.  But Ashley,  if I cannot beat them, I will beat them at their own game! I'll sell cotton.......cotton ought to go sky high this year!
           


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          RE: Mother Teresa's dark night of the soul - 8/25/2007 5:19:55 PM   
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          Well, "Mother Susan", my point is that if India can afford upwards of $100 Billion dollars on a nuclear arsenal why can't they afford to take care of their own people?
          Was that by design? "We'll let guilt-afflicted foreigners take care of our poor and we'll have the money for nuclear weapons."



          Yeah!  All that money we spend in Iraq and Afghanistan while the US Government fucks over the people in New Orleans and other parts of Louisi...

          Wait.  Sorry.

          Nothing to see here.

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