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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 8:44:45 AM   
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You mean guys like this?
http://www.bmezine.com/service/samples/nullohigh/penec3.jpg



OUCH!  How does he pee?  Must be photochopped!

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 8:45:36 AM   
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Wow, yeah, what a good question!

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 8:47:15 AM   
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Ur2Badored: I would send them for therapy, Pronto. They'd have to find another Domme. I see your point.


This is where we may differ in opinion. Some people really do feel happier with no sexuality to deal with. The problem comes when you are like that, in the midst of a society that isn't ready to deal with a third gender.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 8:49:22 AM   
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You mean guys like this?
http://www.bmezine.com/service/samples/nullohigh/penec3.jpg



OUCH!  How does he pee?  Must be photochopped!


Probably done professionally in Europe of someplace like that-He probably still has his sphinchter and the uretrhal outlet is just not apparent in the photos.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 8:49:24 AM   
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This is where we may differ in opinion. Some people really do feel happier with no sexuality to deal with. The problem comes when you are like that, in the midst of a society that isn't ready to deal with a third gender.


Good point......I would like to hear from those folks too.  IF you can ask it, it exists.

However, I imagine those folks have little time for CM boards.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 8:50:37 AM   
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Well I agree, although I feel very much for people liek transecuals, who actually fel born in the wrong body - and I am still wondering aboout the "how does he pee?" question; to me that is fascinating. I have to wonder if it's a fake photo also. If someone is asexual, they can simply make a pledge to never have sex. I find this  cutting your package off reaction way too extreme. I find the "competition" aspect to the whole "No Limits" idea at times to be hilarious. Other times, just a little sick (for me).

- Susan 

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 8:50:53 AM   
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bandit and jax hit it. 

I'm not a limit 'breaker'; I don't take special pleasure from forcing a slave to do something she has listed as a hard limit.  I think that the concept of 'hard limits' often serves much like a fence between here and the greener grass; without that fence, that grass doesn't look so appealing. 

I make it clear the collar is it's own contract in my relationships; there's no lengthy contractual stipulations outlining what her limits are.  Rather, in taking the time to really get to know a girl, her fears eventually bubble to the surface, and we take a good luck at why; knifeplay is a good example.  One girl I knew, was a cutter, and knives were her tool of choice.  Thus, knives were something she originally stated were a 'hard limit.'  Instead of saying "oh, ok, I won't use knives" we talked about it, and in learning what the source of her concern was, and learning how I make use of knives in a scene, it became clear that my interest in knives would actually be something she'd enjoy; that they weren't used for cutting/bloodplay, but rather as a fear enhancer.  Additionally, I learned a few things about her that were important to understand regarding her need (verses just enjoyment of) masochistic activities, and I could be wary of engaging in any sort of 'play' that might have resembled her cutting with other instruments (cat claw gloves, for example.)

But yes, ultimately I expect my slave to understand that her limits be set by me.  That doesn't happen overnight, or easily.  Fortunately, there's no egg timer on this.

I'll briefly mention that for casual play, limits play a much differet role than they do in relationships.  The girl I mentioned earlier really should list her limit regarding knife play to someone she's only playing casually with.  I might have needed that information, since under that sort of situation I wouldn't have months to get to know her.  I also think a good approach to casual play is for the submissive to rattle off four or five things she really enjoys doing, and I'll pick one or two and run with that.  I don't need to know the 412 things she enjoys or is curious about from her twelve page BDSM checklist.  I don't need to hear that in a casual scene that her limits are (insert a whole host of topics restricted by the Terms of Service.)  Those are likely activities that you won't find at your casual play party anyway.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 8:51:44 AM   
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This is where we may differ in opinion. Some people really do feel happier with no sexuality to deal with. The problem comes when you are like that, in the midst of a society that isn't ready to deal with a third gender.


Good point......I would like to hear from those folks too.  IF you can ask it, it exists.


Intolerance will make that impossible. I can't even post about diapering a woman here for chrissakes-without creating this huge stir over it.

Can you imagine the reaction from a bunch of sexual obsessives when a nullo walks in-and says they are happier without?

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 8:52:16 AM   
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We are seeking "no limits" slave(s). Our definition for that term is that we as Dom's have and take the authority and responsibility for setting the slaves limits. We do acknowledge that everyone in any M/s relationship always has the ulitimate safeword, even if it "good-bye".

We seek this sort of relationship for a variety of reasons. We find that without the constant responsibility of having to enforce their own limits a slave has an easier time actually living in "slave space". We also have never found any other way to get the intensity that everyone knowing that we can be pushing  to "the edges" at any moment in time brings... that intensity brings a powerful Master/slave bond that at least for us is unique.

We are a little extreme and intense in our bdsm needs but aren't Hannibal Lector and haven't served up a single  submissive with Fava beans yet. We think the level of trust, honesty and open communication needed to actually get to our style of "no limits" M/s is worth the time and effort.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 8:55:16 AM   
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UR2Badored: Alone -  guess I am a slave then, hehe). They look and taste like flattened, salty worms, or little salty snakes to me (or what I  imagine those would taste like, I haven't eaten salted worms). When I see them in a can, or on a plate, I can't get that image out of my head. (Sorry if this ruins anyone's previously gourmet impression of Anchovies...it's just a personal thing w/me, and one of the very few foods I just can't seem to  ever want to eat. In fact, I can get to feeling ill just thinking about it, if they are in front of me). The role-playing idea sounds to me, like an exercise in Sadism, he.


Sorry but i'm probably the one true person out of a million that loves eating anchovies. Whether it be on pizza or on their own

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 8:59:09 AM   
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Intolerance will make that impossible. I can't even post about diapering a woman here for chrissakes-without creating this huge stir over it.

Can you imagine the reaction from a bunch of sexual obsessives when a nullo walks in-and says they are happier without?


I have a fetish that not everyone would appreciate.  I do not mean to belittle anyone's fetishes or choices.  I would like to hear from the more extreme folks on this subject.  I find it fascinating to be that extreme as an observer  only though......

My opinions refer to myself and not to anyone else. I do not profess that my opinions work for anyone other than myself.
Everyone has a right to draw the line in the sand......I am curious to where people draw the line......thus, the point of the topic being brought up. 

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 8:59:41 AM   
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grlneedstolearn: Well, we all gotta "put our foot down" at some point. Anchovies are my personal "line in the sand".
(and I know some folks love 'em)

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 9:03:08 AM   
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Okay... This is a BIG concept. I've been reading all of the posts on this thread, and a lot of people have said a great deal of insightful, meaningful things. Being a natural meddler, I am now obligated to put in my own two cents worth. ~grins~

Before two (or more) people enter into any relationship, whether kinky or vanilla, they should have the sense to talk about what they want out of it, and what they expect. Now, if you are not a heavy masochist, and you are talking to a Dominant with a sadistic streak as broad as the sea, you PROBABLY aren't going to be a good match. Similarly, if you are a pain whore and are discussing things with a Dominant who isn't comfortable inflicting extreme pain on others, you aren't the best fit together.

Stated limits should, after a while, become unnecessary because of the intimacy and knowledge of eachother that grows in this sort of relationship. Personally, I prefer a sub who has a LOT of soft limits... Things that they are a little reluctant about, or scared of, but are willing to explore with someone they love and trust. Nothing turns me on more than slowly expanding a person's horizons, and having my own expanded as well. I've had a few submissives in the past who really opened my eyes to new pleasures, so it works both ways.

If you are getting into a relationship with someone you don't trust enough that the phrase "no limits" becoms rather superfluous, you probably aren't being cautious enough. Ideally, you want to be with someone whose desires match yours, but who is still capable of helping you to grow.

By the way... About the couple of posts I saw about genital mutilation, and that sort of thing... Even aside from the OW! factor (I can't IMAGINE someone actually wanting to be tormented that way) I also have to ask a philosophical question: What's the point of a pleasure (if indeed it is a pleasure to you) that you can only experience ONCE? Once you've been mauled, you've been mauled. There's no repeat performances, no "That was amazing, can we do it again sometime soon?" I'm just curious as to the mentality involved there.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 9:04:54 AM   
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I never ate a whole anchovie. I have tasted them in dishes that it is in and I could not identify a body part of it......It doesnt seem to bother me.  As a disclaimer, I am from Louisiana and love fried softshell crabs and fried or raw oysters.  (The more guts the better)

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 9:07:57 AM   
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I also have to ask a philosophical question: What's the point of a pleasure (if indeed it is a pleasure to you) that you can only experience ONCE? Once you've been mauled, you've been mauled. There's no repeat performances, no "That was amazing, can we do it again sometime soon?" I'm just curious as to the mentality involved there.


or worse, that really sucked and not pleasurable at all. I will not be doing that again........whoopsie!

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 9:08:25 AM   
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UR2Badored: Oh I love all kinds of seafood, too (New Orleans food rocks, IMO. It is the fabulous food capital of the U.S., as far as I am concerned.) To me, if it was "hidden" it wouldn't really count (but of course that would be up to the Dom to decide, I guess, in each case).

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 9:11:13 AM   
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UR2Badored: Oh I love all kinds of seafood, too (New Orleans food rocks, IMO. It is the fabulous food capital of the U.S., as far as I am concerned.) To me, if it was "hidden" it wouldn't really count (but of course that would be up to the Dom to decide, I guess, in each case).

- Susan


So as a switch, do you order pizza with anchovies and send it back?  I am trying to think of an anchovie analogy for a switch--help!

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 9:12:28 AM   
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From what I understand-it's more about seeking stability than pleasure. But I'm not a null, so I cannot say for sure.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 9:13:46 AM   
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And one problem I see with limits is simple narrow mindedness. A thing is imagined so-so it must be so. Even if it is not.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/16/2007 9:23:10 AM   
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And one problem I see with limits is simple narrow mindedness. A thing is imagined so-so it must be so. Even if it is not.


Could you break this down for me?  Why is having a limit  or limits being narrow minded?

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