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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 8:28:29 PM

Aswad

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

It is especially challenging to be sadistic with something that is dead

What is life, if not a series of challenges to be met and overcome?
Contentment is a state of mind that one chooses.
As is happiness, obviously.

That said, I pick my fights, and tormenting animal corpses is near the end of the list.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 8:29:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: xoxi

Sigh.

Of course I had to come back and read this.

If I saw someone about to jump off a cliff because their "master" told them so I would physically restrain them. There is nothing in the world that can convince me suicide is a kink.

I've been discussing this with Aswad through email and am going to continue to do so in that venue. However I understand what you're saying, prop, that the behavior is technically 'abusive' but is something you enjoy. I also enjoy 'abusive' behavior though not to that degree.

Barring the legal status as his ward, I suppose that no matter how painful it is to hear about it, your life is your own to live or destroy in any way you want. I do however think your legal status complicates this issue, and it would be in both you and your Daddy's best interests to have that situation rectified.

I truly hope that I never see the picture on your profile on the five o'clock news. But something tells me if I did, quite a few of the 'freedom to be abused' posters here would join in a thread about 'Irresponsible Doms and their effect on how people view the Lifestyle.'

I only pray it doesn't go that far. I truly wish you well.

xoxi, i don't believe you understand what i'm saying at all. first, i do not "enjoy" abuse...that is not a kink of mine. i accept, appreciate, and at times recognize the fact that i need it. but to say i "enjoy" it would be grossly inaccurate.
secondly, from the horrible, rude, despicable things you have said about my Master, who also happens to be the Love of my life and the Most Awesome Man ever as far as i'm concerned, you certainly do not wish me well. and lastly, nothing about our legal situation needs "rectifying", things are as they are for a reason.

but that's neither here nor there. you've made your feelings and thoughts crystal clear, i'm grateful for the enlightenment if nothing else.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 8:30:49 PM

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Ya think the topic of personal freedom has some significance to me?

I think this thread has uncovered one universal limit: the involvement of 'civilians'.

I haven't seen anyone from the "no limit" camp claim they'd grab kids if told to.

Maybe I'm being premature, but I think we're all in agreement regarding uninformed/non-consenting parties.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 8:32:03 PM

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Since I never really answered the original question
How far would I go?
In the past, I would have gone as far as he pushed me, told me, ordered me, or threatened me to go; all with a smile on my face, and a thank you Master.
/sigh
The good ole days
Now, I can’t answer that. With the right person, I could probably go further than I did in the past; with the wrong person, not very far at all.
It all depends on whether or not I get a ‘death wish’ relationship again.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 8:49:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

I think this thread has uncovered one universal limit: the involvement of 'civilians'.
I haven't seen anyone from the "no limit" camp claim they'd grab kids if told to.

Bzzzt... go back and search the archives. This horse is deader than you think.

quote:

Maybe I'm being premature, but I think we're all in agreement regarding uninformed/non-consenting parties.

You're being premature. If I saw a slave trying to do something like that in my sphere of influence, I'd drop him/her, mutter "fuckin' waste of a well-trained slave", and then say "you okay?" to the would-be victim. I'd admire their integrity and the quality of their obedience training or devotion, though. My gripe would be with the one giving the order.

A "regular" sub/slave would be a different matter, though.

Still, my views are rather ancillary to the topic.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 8:55:36 PM

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A "regular" sub/slave would be a different matter, though.

Sorry Aswad, but I have to ask.

What the fuck is a 'regular' submissive or slave?

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 8:57:30 PM

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A regular slave is like the day to day one.
All the others are like um. Other slaves.
Yeah thats it

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 8:58:33 PM

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A regular slave is like the day to day one.
All the others are like um. Other slaves.
Yeah thats it .

Is that IT?
Well shit.
I want to be one of the other ones; dayum it.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 8:59:17 PM

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Naw you don't want to be one of the others, they get really dusty.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 9:00:43 PM

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Oh

Well, we don't want dusty

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 9:03:57 PM

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ORIGINAL: IrishMist

Sorry Aswad, but I have to ask.

Nothing to be sorry about.

There's no stupid questions, just my silly answers.

quote:

What the fuck is a 'regular' submissive or slave?

The sense of it was, "one that hasn't also consigned moral authority to the dom/owner."

Which would fit with what is the "regular" state of affairs, no?

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 9:05:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin

I think this thread has uncovered one universal limit: the involvement of 'civilians'.
I haven't seen anyone from the "no limit" camp claim they'd grab kids if told to.

Bzzzt... go back and search the archives. This horse is deader than you think.

So you're saying there have been slaves who declared they would?

Seems to me that puts an even greater emphasis on the ethics and morality of the master.

'Cause as open minded as I am, grabbing kids doesn't fit my BDSM paradigm. Neither does grabbing any stranger and involving them in a manner they do not wish.

Everyone's rights need to be respected, except those adults who willfully gift them to another.

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quote:

Maybe I'm being premature, but I think we're all in agreement regarding uninformed/non-consenting parties.

You're being premature. If I saw a slave trying to do something like that in my sphere of influence, I'd drop him/her, mutter "fuckin' waste of a well-trained slave", and then say "you okay?" to the would-be victim. I'd admire their integrity and the quality of their obedience training or devotion, though. My gripe would be with the one giving the order.

Okay. Sounds like we're still seeing this in a similar way.

quote:

A "regular" sub/slave would be a different matter, though.

Certainly. They have demanded/expected more autonomy than the no-limit slave, thus bear a greater share of the blame for having tried to do it.

quote:

Still, my views are rather ancillary to the topic.

Modesty is never Honest.

< Message edited by Bobkgin -- 9/20/2007 9:06:40 PM >

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 9:06:19 PM

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I like camille's answer better

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 9:08:31 PM

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behold the power of

beer (or power of typing while having drunk beer). Gnites everybody.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 9:10:05 PM

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Makes me wish I was drunk after reading this ongoing thread.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 9:11:42 PM

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Naw you don't want to be one of the others, they get really dusty.

Yes, but like any doormat, all you need do is hang them from the clothesline and beat them with a broom.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 9:14:51 PM

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Hahaha that woke me back up.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 9:20:25 PM

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FR:
hallelujah! its a miracle! humor! buys a round of beer for the house
and for those of us that don't drink....Coffee and Tea thats more expensive than the beer lol

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 9:23:57 PM

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Hahaha that woke me back up.

You can also vacuum them or hose them.

But if you ignore them long enough the dust bunnies get them.

It's like that one missing sock in the dryer thing.

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When all is said and done, what will you regret?

That you never really lived?

Or there was so much living left to do?

For those interested: pics and poetry have been added to my profile.

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RE: No Limits: How far would you go? - 9/20/2007 10:13:37 PM

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Modesty is never Honest.

It has nothing to do with modesty, and everything to do with the S/N ratio if I were to post my views here.

Health,
al-Aswad.

< Message edited by Aswad -- 9/20/2007 10:16:20 PM >

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