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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 5:50:00 AM

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This thread has taken a turn for the worse. I doubt I'll be posting to it again. I didn't realize that by posting this question I would be subjecting myself to being put down. That was my mistake in thinking that I could be open & real, without retaliation.
I just want to make it very clear that I am NOT a racist.....I have always embraced BOTH of my cultural backgrounds....and if I have offended anyone with this post, I apologize. That was not my intention.

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 6:59:52 AM

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Fast Reply to No One in Particular.

Why people feel the need to interject their own take on "social decenty" and political correctness into what choice of words two people use in the privacy of their own home is beyond me...

Personally, if I am in "humilation and degradation" mode and this particular word fit into your masochism, I would have absolutely no problem calling you a nigger.

You'd have no problem calling a black woman a nigger?

How incredibly decent of you!

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 6:59:53 AM

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Lots of threads take a turn for the worse...

You raised an interesting question, and got a higher number of repsonsive answers than seems to be the norm, don't let the 'your kink sux' responses chase you away.

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 8:05:35 AM

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yeah, I figured you had to be strong and self-confident to post a thread that would elicit strong feelings in other posters. I commend you for bringing up a subject I'm sure many think about, but few are willing to talk openly about.

Don't let personal attacks shut you up or out of the intent of your thread. People making personal attacks say more about themselves than about you: that they are uncomfortable with the topic doesn't give them the right to try to shut you down to make it go away. It obviously won't go away if there are such strong feelings about it.

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 8:16:53 AM

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thank you Vanatru & Alumbrado. i really appreciate your encouragement.

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 11:07:05 AM

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thank you Vanatru & Alumbrado. i really appreciate your encouragement.

It was a great thread, I was making a list and checking it twice

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 11:22:17 AM

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I was loving it, I was fixin' to pass out some BWC.

(Boundry Waters Canoe area for you non minnesotans........land of 10,000 lakes, we know water sports).

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 12:34:07 PM

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i personally find no pleasure in being called the "N" word in any setting.
i am new to this forum and new to the lifestyle. A mentor once told me something that i strive to keep dear in my heart.
The fantastic thing about this lifestyle is that you create your own. Outline it, define it, and then own it proudly.
What works for you may not work for another. And thats okay. At the end of the day @ A sub is responsible for her own actions and every S.S.&C. responsible choice she makes. She is the CEO of her own corporation and must come bold in her own statements. Do not compromise yourself & know how much you are able to give and/or take. It is very important for you to know what you want and who you are. Because there are many people who will enjoy telling you there way is the right way (as proven in this forum). Do not let that deter you from enjoying your submission in whatever kink 'floats your boat'.

Looking for One who will finally deliver that place under protective eyes to just be me!

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 12:39:30 PM

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brsub, I'm with you on this. Like Alumbrado, Vanatru, DDZ and Ron said, it's ~your~ kink. Someone, somewhere along the line is going to take some kind of offense to the things you say / like / believe, regardless.

I do hope that the negativity expressed toward you on this thread will not keep you from sharing your thoughts again, regardless of their nature and regardless of the thread to which you respond.

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 12:47:56 PM

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Yes, I agree with Alumbrado. Many Collarme threads take a turn for the worse; that's par for the course. You raised a sensitive issue and talked about your feelings honestly. Some people just can't handle that.

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This thread has taken a turn for the worse.

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 12:57:15 PM

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biracalsub4wmDom

i personally find no pleasure in being called the "N" word in any setting.
i am new to this forum and new to the lifestyle. A mentor once told me something that i strive to keep dear in my heart.
The fantastic thing about this lifestyle is that you create your own. Outline it, define it, and then own it proudly.
What works for you may not work for another. And thats okay. At the end of the day @ A sub is responsible for her own actions and every S.S.&C. responsible choice she makes. She is the CEO of her own corporation and must come bold in her own statements. Do not compromise yourself & know how much you are able to give and/or take. It is very important for you to know what you want and who you are. Because there are many people who will enjoy telling you there way is the right way (as proven in this forum). Do not let that deter you from enjoying your submission in whatever kink 'floats your boat'.

Looking for One who will finally deliver that place under protective eyes to just be me!

That was very well put, but I could not disagree with you more.

If all that matters to you is getting your pussy wet or your dick hard, then by all means, go for whatever floats your individual boat.

As a black man, I care about more than that. Much more.

So, notwithstanding the fact that being called a "nigger" whatever sets off fireworks in your mental clitoris (or your mental penis, as it were), i personally could not have less respect for a black man or woman who gets off on some white person calling them nigger.

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 1:00:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: biracalsub4wmDom

hiya! :)
alright y'all, I have another question.
i am black...well....1/2 black 1/2 white, but they say "if you have 1 drop.... you black." so...i'm black. lol and i prefer a White Dom. i also enjoy racial humilliation. actually, i enjoy it very much. but it seems like a lot of the Doms i talk to are scared of this.

my question is why? i'm assuming it is because they don't want to come across as a racist. or maybe they have black family, and it is offensive to them. or maybe they are scared of what others will think if they enjoyed such a thing. i guess all of this could be true.

i've been told by white doms that i should work on my self esteem....that i am disrespecting myself by thinking this way. in this lifestyle, you wouldn't tell a woman who loves to be called a slut & a whore that she needs to work on her self esteem. that would be considered HOT...right? so what is the difference?

if you are a White Dom, and it is offensive to you, i am curious to find out why. is it a moral issue? is it a social issue? is it a matter of wanting to be seen as politically correct? is it something where you SAY it makes you uncomfortable, but if you were with someone who enjoyed it, you'd give it a try?

just trying to pick your brains a bit. :)

blessings....

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 1:06:12 PM

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OK, let me get this straight. As a black man, as you put it, you care about...what two lovers call each other in private? How on EARTH is that any of your business? You're free to "respect" or "disrespect" people for whatever reason your heart desires, but disrespecting people for the kinks that arouse them isn't going to win you very many friends on Collarme.

I thought the whole point of going through life with an alternative sexuality was to recognize that the One True Way does not work for everyone. You do what you like in private, and let other people do what they like in private. It seems like an awful waste of time, when there are REAL injustices in society today, to pontificate about people's sexual preferences.

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ORIGINAL: Blaakmaan

If all that matters to you is getting your pussy wet or your dick hard, then by all means, go for whatever floats your individual boat.

As a black man, I care about more than that. Much more.

So, notwithstanding the fact that being called a "nigger" whatever sets off fireworks in your mental clitoris (or your mental penis, as it were), i personally could not have less respect for a black man or woman who gets off on some white person calling them nigger.

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 1:17:37 PM

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Aiight this getting ridiculous. I am a dominant, black man and Blaakman is a hater, for real. Look I'm not into bein called a "nigger" by anyone, but I also don't give a shit what someone else is doin, as long as it's consensual. What the fuck do you care? I have had white subs before who got off on bein called "white sluts" or "hos" or "trailer trash", what's the difference? Oh right, I forgot it ain't politically correct. So I guess we all open and tolerant as long as everyone agreees wit everything, but don't show any opinions outside the box. It's hypocritical. She ain't askin you to do it, so why you care? You projecting your own insecurities on everyone else, and clearly got a problem wit black/white hookups, in any combination. All this shit is fantasy anyway, everyone knows it. For real, how many subs really want to live in a dungeon basement 24/7? if that''s they kink, who the fuck are you to say shit about it. I seen your other posts brother, you don't show respect to anyone who doesn't agree wit every thing you say. Quite whinin like a bitch, stop hatin, and get in the game.

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 1:22:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: biracalsub4wmDom

This thread has taken a turn for the worse. I doubt I'll be posting to it again. I didn't realize that by posting this question I would be subjecting myself to being put down. That was my mistake in thinking that I could be open & real, without retaliation.
I just want to make it very clear that I am NOT a racist.....I have always embraced BOTH of my cultural backgrounds....and if I have offended anyone with this post, I apologize. That was not my intention.

No apology needed I enjoyed the thread and still do *smiles* I dont understand wanting to use the word but I can understand that it being taboo is a turn on *if that makes sense* ...as for me I see it no worse than guys *blk* on a B-Ball court calling themselves *nigga* surely they feel some pleasure out of it hence the identifying and acknowledgement of it being a *nickname* ....I dont pick apart negative words and try to make them something positive I take them for face value and toss them in the trash hardly if ever to be used again....*ponders* I have yet to see a blk man look to another blk man and say "hey man dont use that word when addressing me" now that will be a sign of the times....

In response to Ebony King ..Very well stated "I have had white subs before who got off on bein called "white sluts" or "hos" or "trailer trash", what's the difference? Oh right, I forgot it ain't politically correct" .....in my opinion many people dont even look at those words as racist and they are often just defined as politically incorrect as you stated therefore more easily accepted and overlooked......I am more than sure many blk men have called white women *white sluts* *trailer trash* but we dont see anyone stepping up to the plate and admitting it but you.....nice flip on the OP ....Thank you

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 1:38:11 PM

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~chuckling at EK's outburst of emotion~

Glad you have you out of the audience and joining in the fray. Your opinion and observation is appreciated.

Edited for typo.

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 1:49:13 PM

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~chuckling at EK's outburst of emotion~

Glad you have you out of the audeince and joining in the fray. Your opinion and observation is appreciated.

tsk tsk, no chuckling at the Doms....where they can see it....

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 1:54:46 PM

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EbonyKing77 & Lordandmaster.....

i'm not chuckling....i'm applauding! thank you for that. it's not in my nature to go off on a rant, but i was certainly thinking it. thank you again, for saying it. :)

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 2:57:54 PM

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Blaakmaan

With all due respect, i understand that You feel very strongly about Your convictions from this post and others that i have read.
But
If all that matters to you is getting your pussy wet or your dick hard, then by all means, go for whatever floats your individual boat.

Feeling your submission has very little to do with physical, it is much more mental. And that is not all that matters to me in society, i am a black submissive woman , a mother dedicated to her children and a professional working class citizen who cares about the injustices of all people in general.... But this is a CM forum and the submissive who initiated the thread was speaking on what excites her in the privacy of her small space. Not the injustices of society. Also personally i do take offense to You using the term "you". i have yet to be disrespectful to anyone on this forum and had only hoped for the same back. i do not understand how You can be so judgemental and yet have one foot in the Darkside Yourself. (just my personal opinion, does not warrent a response)

As a black man, I care about more than that. Much more.
So, notwithstanding the fact that being called a "nigger" whatever sets off fireworks in your mental clitoris (or your mental penis, as it were), i personally could not have less respect for a black man or woman who gets off on some white person calling them nigger.

i have raised two black dominant males so i do understand the struggle the black man can feel on a daily basis.
So bring a real injustice to the table and i will be behind you 100% (and i know You wouldn't care if i did or not, so You don't have to come back with that), but when i read her post i did not see an injustice. i saw a grown woman out lining, defining and owning up to her true desires whether i agree with them or not. You are not the white man she speaks on and You are not the submissive she speaks of so why take it to such an ugly place assuming that anyone actually cares whether you have respect for there personal choices in life or not. It is hard enough for a submissive to accept what she feels when most of what she desires is sooooo taboo in mainstream society and surprising to me that a Dominant would make it even harder......
i agree with the statement @ It seems like an awful waste of time, when there are REAL injustices in society today.

Looking for One who will finally deliver that place under protective eyes to just be me!

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RE: White Dom/black sub....afraid of the "N" ... - 11/5/2007 3:21:59 PM

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Ah, seedling, a very lovely post indeed. Welcome to the boards - I hope you won't be a stranger.

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