juliaoceania
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Joined: 4/19/2006 From: Somewhere Over the Rainbow Status: offline
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ORIGINAL: Archer xoxi, I think the problem you keep running into is that you keep saying it IS a command and it is being read as if that is the only logical viewpoint. (quite possibly an encode decode mixup) Rather than I see it as a command but can see how you might not. I'm seeing how you can see it as a command, but here is how I'm viewing it and in this context it is not a command but rather the fulfillment of a duty. At the risk of opening up the debate again, here's what I'm saying: I see it as a command. I appreciate the fact that you don't see it as one...but in the context you describe I still see it as a command. Like I said before, I can't *not* see it as a command any more than you *can* see it as one. It *is* the only logical viewpoint FOR ME - because it's the one that I arrived at logically and see the opposing argument to hold less logical weight. Same way you think your argument holds more logical weight than mine. When I say "it is a command, you might see it differently and that's fine, but in my eyes it's still a command" that's what I mean. It's not doublespeak...it's saying that you have the right to have your view - it just makes NO sense to me. Just like my view makes NO sense to you. When I say "yes it is a command, you can see it differently if you want" it's the same as if you were to say "no it's not a command, you can see it differently if you want." I respect the rights of others to have their own opinion - no matter how wrong I think they are for it As long as you don't make me say "you're right" then I won't make you say "I'm wrong" - and vice versa. Deal? Here, I will respond in a way that might illustrate how you come across to me...now mind you, I am writing the below as an example.. I do not actually feel this way, but I am doing this just so you understand how you sound... I see people that do not have safewords as taking their partner's life in their hands, for me not to have a safeword would mean that my dominant did not care about me. I understand you may see it differently, but to me I think that it shows just how little a dominant cares about his submissive... that is just what I think, you may think something different... but that does not mean I am wrong... Now the above IS wrong. It is wrong because I do not live in other people's dynamics. I do not know how they feel. I do not know how their relationship works. It is invalid and wrong of me to make the emboldened statement above... now perhaps you may understand how I view your statements... to me they are wrong and invalid, it does not matter how much you try to make them so... but that is just my opinion
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