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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/14/2005 3:00:12 PM   
lilyophelia


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

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ORIGINAL: lilyophelia

Now, when i'm looking through profiles for someone of substance to approach (and i spend more then enough time doing it, believe me), it really takes a lot of effort and sincerity to justify my contact. i waste enough of my time with absolutely worthless people (who clog up and frustrate the site and are dishonest and all of those other bad things); and those are just the ones who contact me. i don't have enough hours in the day to go looking for trouble...i get so many (mostly insincere) messages as it is...if you hardly get any messages yourself (as a male submissive), then you should have an abundance of time to search for Someone who is right for you; i would encourage you to do some serious soul-seeking first, though, and to know exactly who you are before you bug an over-bugged Lady. Take the time to make the journey to that place where you are ready to commit to something serious, express yourself with a deep sincerity and honesty, and i promise that you will go much, much farther with much less effort.


-lily



Great post, and I snipped one part in particular. People often compare submissive's sending intro emails to applying for a job -- that they should take the same care and consideration in how they prepare it and how much information (and how much RELEVANT information vs. fluff) to send -- how to be brief and compelling.



i really do believe this is true in a lot of cases...what keeps me understanding and more sympathetic, probably (besides naivete) is that i believe there are really good people out there who don't know how to sell themselves...and often, the ones who sell themselves the best make me the most suspicious. They all get the benefit of the doubt, though, unless i can obviously read them for what they are...then i send a form rejection notice (mostly) to their form pick-up lines (i stopped getting whole form letters! ; ; now it's just one-liners).

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

How does this translate to people sending emails here? Just like pitching an editor by email or fax, you have 1 paragraph to get their attention, and a few follow ups to close the deal. Just make sure you are the right FIT, and understand this person has been bothered so much in the past that they sadly automatically assume you're contacting them without doing your homework.



i completely understand where You are coming from, and i think that is a very valid way of looking at things. It is efficient and probably has a greater ROI than dealing with people who don't have very nice resumes. It's just that this is really, really hard for some of the more honest and sincere individuals, and i can see how people get beaten down here...not by You, or the next Domme, or by me, but by the environment. i just try to be as honest and as understanding as i can, and i cut things short once i feel that i've given someone enough time to make their case.

For You, it might be ten seconds...for many Dommes it's much less. i find the best way to handle the situation is to have strict guidelines, and to point to those whenever someone approaches You outside of them. It's quick and easy and actually deters some of the really awful people. If You decide later on that You want to make exceptions, then it's easy to do so. i'm sure that You have Your own systems in place to make things work (i took a look at Your rather extensive site).

On the other hand, i would imagine that compassion and patience would also be really important. my biggest fear in interacting with O/others is that i'll find S/someone that is really special, but that i'll overlook them for superficial reasons...as i've aged, i've really come to understand the beauty of the simple...a simple, reclusive submissive life, for example, can be a really spiritual and deep thing. i love very thoughtful and eloquent people, but i also know that not E/everyone has that in their makeup...there are many, many people of value who are mute when it comes to effective expressing themselves.

i just try to be a guide, i guess...like an editor who limits how much contact She has through the use of guidelines. E/everyone who makes it though those gets a bit of opinion and advice from me if they're not right, and i hope it's helpful to them, or leads them closer to their own private happiness...and for those who are right, i hope that my responses lead them right to U/us. ^^

Anyway, my Miss needs a lot of attention right now...She breeds Rat Terriers, and She got caught in the middle of a bad situation with some other breeders and a rescue organization. One of the dogs that She just recently aquired (a really, really beautiful five-month-old puppy) died after being with U/us for only 30 hours (from the time W/we picked it up in Alabamba). She's really upset, because the animal died of a hookworm infestation, which the previous owner/breeder should have had no problem preventing (it's really, really simple). So, i'm going to go and be pleasant and comforting and good for Her.

Thank you, Akasha, and E/everyone else for the relatively warm reception...i'll read and write more tomorrow!

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/14/2005 6:44:48 PM   
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Please, let us know when you publish your memoirs, Ti. Rarely does one have the opportunity to read such eloquence on matters B,D, S or M. (I've seen your ouvres in other forums.) And, no, I'm not angling for anything. And, No, folks, she didn't pay me to say that. I just appreciate reading posts that are considered, grammatically correct and contain properly spelled polysyllabics .

QueenRah

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/14/2005 9:40:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

that is if Pollox doesn't steal her off first (since the two of them seem to be kindred spirits). I just love happy endings. M


Well, aren't you sweet.

I wish you all the best as well, M.

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/14/2005 10:00:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TiNeedsHouseboy
a submissive website, including your legal name <snip> . I wanted to point out that its text remains accessible due to Google's cache.


Ti is right about this. It takes a little effort but cached copies of pages from your website such as 'Fantasy and Reality' or 'Duane's World of Submission' are still available via Google. I found these knowing only your username. I suppose it would be easier if somone used your real name.

I am not sure how to eliminate the cache. Perhaps you could put up your website but with those pages either blank or with nonsense words Eventually Google will cache the new version and the old one will be lost. Or perhaps Google can be persuaded to flush their cache, although they might not appreciate the extra workload.

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/14/2005 11:35:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: QueenRah

Please, let us know when you publish your memoirs, Ti. Rarely does one have the opportunity to read such eloquence on matters B, D, S or M.


Not to mention thoughtful, analytical, and knowledgable.

I am constantly impressed by the level of insight she displays - and the ability to express it so aptly and so thoroughly.



sincerely not saccharinely,
-S-



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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/15/2005 5:14:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: onceburned

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ORIGINAL: TiNeedsHouseboy
a submissive website, including your legal name <snip> . I wanted to point out that its text remains accessible due to Google's cache.


Ti is right about this. It takes a little effort but cached copies of pages from your website such as 'Fantasy and Reality' or 'Duane's World of Submission' are still available via Google. I found these knowing only your username. I suppose it would be easier if somone used your real name.

I am not sure how to eliminate the cache. Perhaps you could put up your website but with those pages either blank or with nonsense words Eventually Google will cache the new version and the old one will be lost. Or perhaps Google can be persuaded to flush their cache, although they might not appreciate the extra workload.


I don't know either. I don't own those websites anymore. They're gone, but I can't get rid of the traces of them. I've managed to get rid of a LOT of the linkage information that was about me. Unfortunately, I can't get rid of the last ones that still seem to end up coming up first on Internet searches. I half thought about just changing my name at one point.

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/15/2005 11:17:24 AM   
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I half thought about just changing my name at one point.


How frustrating and embarassing it must be. If I google your first and last name (in-between quotation marks) I get a link where you posted to an old BDSM mail list called Dominion and also to your high school class reunion list - both of them using your name and your email address.

So I guess its something just to try to laugh off. Certainly changing your name would really make people start to wonder.

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/15/2005 11:06:29 PM   
TiNeedsHouseboy


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ORIGINAL: QueenRah
Please, let us know when you publish your memoirs, Ti. Rarely does one have the opportunity to read such eloquence on matters B, D, S or M.

quote:

ORIGINAL: saret
Not to mention thoughtful, analytical, and knowledgable.

I am constantly impressed by the level of insight she displays - and the ability to express it so aptly and so thoroughly.

TO: Rah (you're not revealing WHY that specific name was assigned? LOL) and Saret....
I appreciate the endorsement and interest. You are both also worthy reads on these boards, standing out from the inundation of air-headed (to be kind) posts.

As long as we're mentioning intriguing posters to whom I haven't cross-posted.... Lily, I look forward to reading more from you, too.

Back to the memoir remarks: Given that you're both insightful and articulate, I can't believe that you've read the other thread where the reference to my memoir exists, but you haven't posted a word on that thread!!!! (Shaking head and producing "Tsk! Tsk!" sounds.) I'm astounded by the number of hits on that thread vs. the utter lack (relative to readers) of participation. I never expected it to turn into a predominantly dyadic exchange between me 'n Steve/Euryanx.

Not sure why you've opted to insert my memoir into this thread, though it's coincidentally timely. Before plowing through why it's fitting, I want to reiterate a point from the original thread. Apparently, I didn't stress it sufficiently:

My memoir is NOT about B or D or S or M. (If you were hoping for a title in the realm of "Bedtime for Pervs," that aint gonna happen!) It is a book about me. D/s components are simply mirrors of the dynamic that existed between select chapters' male subjects and me. I would never want to see the book marketed as a BDSM title. To do so would be deceptive.

More importantly, it would be contrary to the spirit in which it was written: cultivation of a potentially mass market title. Trying to get a BDSM book onto the New York Times Best Seller list would be a tough nut to crack -- in the event I ever decide to assemble a book with that focus. (Please notice I'm not LOL'ing here.)

Why mentioning my memoir is timely:

(Duane, I'm not picking on you. You're simply a coincidence.)

Duane/Sarbonn's situation with his web pages floating eternally in cyberspace, not to mention the imposition this caused on his employment, is precisely the sort of situation that I intend to avoid, if at all possible. I'm bound to codes of ethical conduct which preclude public display of my personal life. Conduct codes aside, I've always been a private person. Though open with friends and significant others, I don't feel the need to put myself on display and/or be surrounded by a marching brass band, playing my tune into everyone's ears.

What does this imply? The day my book wends its way from digital to hard copy, making itself available to the public, few will know that I was the author. Exception: people in my feedback group of trusted readers -- and they're sworn to keep their mouths shut! BTW, they're another reflection that this is not a BDSM book. Though some of those readers are BDSM Lifestylers, most are not. They're simply a cross section of men and women, from all walks of life and sexual orientations/preferences.

Around a year ago, I had several interesting e-mail exchanges with a kink aware psychiatrist. We were discussing book publication and privacy matters. As it happens, he was the person I referenced in the thread about pro-male subs. (He was part of a pro-Domme's stable, plus he was collared to his wife.) We were kicking around dilemmas involving what happens when you publish extremely personal information under your legal name. Why? He, too, was pondering a memoir. His was not intended as a BDSM book either. Sure, it would have such components because they're part of his life -- albeit a major part -- but he is far more than just a submissive with a bunch of kinks.

Publishing the book, in and of itself, isn't the problem. It's the tie-in marketing and tabloids that can cause inordinate grief. You have to do interviews; you have to do book tours; you have to do author appearance/signings, etc. The issue of incognito appearances was key.

We shared awareness of how publication could potentially cause horrific consequences vis-a-vis conflicts with ethical conduct codes. Then, there are issues surrounding the implications for family members and friends and how they might get dragged into any negative fallout. Beyond that, for my situation, I have no clue how my landlord might decide he perceives me around lease renewal time if "perverts" don't fit with his notion of desirable tenants.

In short, one can only hope that the book will be marketed well enough so that you will hear about it and want to read it. If someone brings up a topic where I feel it's appropriate to recommend it as a resource, you just might find it appearing as one of my recommended readings. What you'll never know for certain is which, if any, of my suggestions might consist of material that I authored. Your only hope would be if you happened to match my writing style. Guess you could look for polysyllabic words.... though anyone with a decent vocabulary uses them thar big words.

Side note on vocabulary: My memoir's feedback group read a preliminary draft about a relationship I had with a physician. (No, it wasn't the psychiatrist in the above e-mail exchange -- before someone decides to post a smartass crack!) One reader remarked that "soccer moms" (his chosen term, not mine) would have a tough time navigating the chapter due to the reading level. I reminded him that the chapter reflected our intellectual intersection. There are other chapters that are on much -- ahem -- lower reading levels. To that end, I immediately provided one of the shorter chapters. It's a rather bizarre tale, in the grand scheme of things -- and without a single a pervy word to be had -- for the record. My "soccer mom" reader declared said chapter a pallet cleanser from prevailing gut-wrenching concepts, and understood that I was tailoring chapters' reading levels to each chapter's title person/action.

In any case, the memoir remains a work in progress. There are a couple of areas that are not flowing the way I want them to. If this was fiction, I could just rip up those areas and take it from a different perspective. Since there's no fiction involved, I'll just have to wait until the moment of inspiration hits that gets me past hurdles impeding my path.

~ Ti ~

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/21/2005 7:15:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TiNeedsHouseboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: QueenRah
Please, let us know when you publish your memoirs, Ti. Rarely does one have the opportunity to read such eloquence on matters B, D, S or M.

quote:

ORIGINAL: saret
Not to mention thoughtful, analytical, and knowledgable.

I am constantly impressed by the level of insight she displays - and the ability to express it so aptly and so thoroughly.

TO: Rah (you're not revealing WHY that specific name was assigned? LOL) and Saret....
You are both also worthy reads on these boards, standing out from the inundation of air-headed (to be kind) posts.

Back to the memoir remarks: Given that you're both insightful and articulate, I can't believe that you've read the other thread where the reference to my memoir exists, but you haven't posted a word on that thread!!!! (Shaking head and producing "Tsk! Tsk!" sounds.) .

~ Ti ~



Thanks for the cross-stoke. Moniker origin: Not as cool as one would hope, but still pretty cool - Was in email correspondence with a local DJ. I requested more Queen songs on their playlist, as I are a Queen fan. "Rah" is short for...oh, just guess. He dubbed me "QueenRah." Maybe he knew me better than I let on? As for not posting to your thread, I must have felt that what needed to be said had already been said. So, there you are.

QueenRah

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/22/2005 11:50:18 AM   
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well?

MY new Ms DID contact me first and i am happier now than i can remember being -------literally.........in decades.

wolfie

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/22/2005 12:51:34 PM   
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That is FANTASTIC news, Wolf!

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/22/2005 12:59:59 PM   
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Congrats to you and your MS wolfie. Wishing you both many happy times ahead.


Rosa

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/23/2005 12:49:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lonewolf05
MY new Ms DID contact me first and i am happier now than i can remember being -------literally.........in decades.

wolfie
Wonderful news wolf.
Glad to hear you're happy. Wish you both well.. M

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/23/2005 6:38:26 AM   
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Lady Hibiscus, RosaB, and the ever famous Blk Tall Fullfig Ladyship...

thank You All.
i am quite pleased, and so very contented inside now.
i have never, in 50 years, had a feeling in my gut of self satisfaction. something was always knawing at me and i felt uneasy and unsettled. restless. nervous. wandering soul. itchy-feet to travel to the next hillside.

now?
naw.
purring like a kitten and happy as all hellfire.

thank You All.

wolfie....

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/23/2005 6:58:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lonewolf05

Lady Hibiscus, RosaB, and the ever famous Blk Tall Fullfig Ladyship...

thank You All.
i am quite pleased, and so very contented inside now.
i have never, in 50 years, had a feeling in my gut of self satisfaction. something was always knawing at me and i felt uneasy and unsettled. restless. nervous. wandering soul. itchy-feet to travel to the next hillside.

now?
naw.
purring like a kitten and happy as all hellfire.

thank You All.

wolfie....


It's a wonderful feeling to finally find that one, isn't it? Congrats.

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/23/2005 1:47:09 PM   
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personally, i find it makes a good impression if the sub contacts me, as that shows me that they're willingly putting themselves out into submission. Also there are so many male subs out there, that who would want to deal with a lazy one?

Just my opinion, I guess it depends on the domme.

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/24/2005 8:42:39 AM   
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I just appreciate reading posts that are considered, grammatically correct and contain properly spelled polysyllabics .

QueenRah

==============================
cough cough. sputter.......
uh, yeah, right.

y'ok. Mistress TELLS me i am supposed-to-be a good boy and learn how to behave and watch MY grammer etc,...but i do not feel it should be such a huge issue.

i STILL feel there are bigger issues. it is like the pot calling the kettle black because my Lady is NOT always adccurate and She says when SHE screws up,.."ah well, these guys i talk to EXPECT me to screw up so they know it is me and not someone posing AS me"
so SHE gets by with slashing the type but "I" am not allowed??? hmmm.


i do not feel someone should worry about how something is written as much as you should care about what is IN the message.

i know far too many idiots with accurate type that have nothing to say i would give you 10 cents for..cheap talk and NO substance.
gimme someone that says two sentences with bad errors but a deep msg vs some clown with 4 pages and said nuthin....

wolfie



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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/24/2005 8:44:35 AM   
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It's a wonderful feeling to finally find that one, isn't it? Congrats.
SD
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yes,...........it IS. for 50 plus years, my gut had a hole nothing could fill.
now it is filled completely.

wolfie

p/s
thanks


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RE: Finding A Mistress - 8/31/2005 3:34:23 PM   
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Ultimately it depends on what the Dom/me is looking for in a partner.

I just joined here 2 days ago, and already someone felt my profile was "egotisical" when i was only trying to make a simple point. The point was.. how many white pearls do you see? (if you have the $$ to spend on them *laughs*) now.. how often have you seen a "black pearl" ? see my point?

I wasnt offended or anything along those lines, after all.. a profile gives you maybe 1 1/100th of a glimpse of what the person is about. Ultimately though, constant interaction between the 2 parties are what break down these barriers, whether it be the Dom/me that initiates it.. or the submissive/slave who sends his info

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RE: Finding A Mistress - 9/2/2005 9:53:52 AM   
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This is the first time I have actually read through any posts on this site and this has really opened my eyes. I can see now that I will definetely have to re-do my profile and take a lot more time over it. To be honest, I never really considered a Mistress would bother to contact me anyway, I always just assumed that it was up to us subs to do all the running. What I have read here has made a big difference and changed my way of thinking.
Thankyou to all who posted and please give me some time to change my profile. I am going to have to put some serious thought into it.

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