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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/28/2007 11:45:43 AM

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Is it so unusual for a switch to kneel to a Dom? I do not like to Domme men, it makes me feel uncomfortable and out of place. My profile says that I am seeking submissive females and nothing more. I was looking to do it under his direction and guidance, but I have been release as his slave. However, i do not want nor feel like finding another Dom (or man in general), but i would still like to play. As for being woken up is not unusual, we have lived together before and more often than not, one of us is at the other's house.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/28/2007 11:48:13 AM

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puppy,

The rest of the thread aside, do you have trouble with sleeping? Do you awake feeling unrested often? If so that could be an indication that you are not getting enough rest, and that is indeed a bad thing. Our bodies only repair themselves while we sleep, not to mention there are other metabollic activities that only occur when one is sleeping. People that are always grumpy upon waking are probably not getting enough rest... if that is the case with you, I would suggest you do something about it. Life is too short to go through it feeling like crap unnecessarily

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/28/2007 12:01:23 PM

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My behavior is not always affected by my sleep patterns. Though i will say, that I am a manic depressant and due to that factor alone sometimes my body and mind just want to shut off and sleep for long periods of time. This is something I really honestly cannot control. It also can be the reason why my behavior tends to be so erratic.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/28/2007 1:16:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic

I look at it this way..If I had a dog and I woke up at 3am and decided to take my dog out for a run, what would happen? The dog would wake up, wag his/her little tail and happily run alongside me. If it barked at me every time I woke it up, or attempted to play fetch, I wouldn't have much incentive to keep the dog, would I? Why then, should the situation differ to such an extreme degree with my puppyslut?

Why not? Barking, growling, howling, yowling and other forms of vocalizations are the only ones dogs have. My dogs talk, yelp, howl, siren, growl, howl, and yowl all the time.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/28/2007 2:47:06 PM

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My behavior is not always affected by my sleep patterns. Though i will say, that I am a manic depressant and due to that factor alone sometimes my body and mind just want to shut off and sleep for long periods of time. This is something I really honestly cannot control. It also can be the reason why my behavior tends to be so erratic.

Behavior modification implies that one is changing behavior that the person has the ability to control. You are correct that we do not know your situation, however, given this information about the bipolar disorder and your former bf's statement in this thread calling you a "piece of shit" because of your emotional issues, I would suggest to you that what you need is someone with the emotional maturity and personal security to recognize the difference between your mental issues and questioning their authority. It's quite clear from the statements that he made indicating that he does not care about your needs as he believes that is what TPE is, that this gentleman, who may be the salt of the earth, is not at the point where he can do that.

Submission does not mean you have to check your personality and the flaws and tendencies that make us human at the door. It does mean that you need to be in a situation where someone can recognize those things and respond appropriately to them. His statements in no way suggest he was doing that and in fact while he shared many things with us that arguably are not appropriate for these boards, the bipolar disorder was rather mysteriously left out.

You don't have to be perfect to be a submissive, none of us are and the blame is not yours for not being such. You do have to be honest and find someone that can appropriately address those issues.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/28/2007 6:41:16 PM

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dc,
you crack me up!

Thanks!

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/29/2007 4:11:59 PM

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Seems to me that there has been all kinds of advice given on here and that you, Twisted, as a fairly new dominant should take what applies to your dynamic as you and she have defined it. If it is a Master/slave relationship with TPE, then her behavior was wrong. That doesn't necessarily make you 100 % right. It is sort of like the law...you can be 100% legal in something you are doing but that doesn't make it "right". But again, it all depends on your dynamic. She sounds like a bit of a brat to me, mental/emotional/behavioral disturbance or no. I find that a bit confusing and extremely dissatisfying in any D/s dynamic I am involved in and would not allow it were I to enter into a Master/slave or TPE dynamic. But...that's me.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/29/2007 4:54:07 PM

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One would assume CD that you would not get into a TPE situation with someone that has an untreated mental disorder and would not condone another for attempting to use that dynamic in lieu of therapy and medical treatment.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/29/2007 5:01:48 PM

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She sounds like a bit of a brat to me, mental/emotional/behavioral disturbance or no.

WTF???

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/29/2007 5:04:47 PM

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Honestly, laurell, do you have a problem absorbing information or are you just that miserable in life that you feel compelled to belittle everyone else? Both this thread and my other thread state very clearly that she will be seeing a specialist. she has an appointment tomorrow.
Notice that this thread is posted in the 'Ask a Master' section and not 'Ask a submissive/slave'. If you don't have anything valuable to contribute, remain silent. you're probably much cuter with your mouth shut (or full) anyway.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/29/2007 5:14:06 PM

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Yet one more example of your lack of maturity. As I have stated before, I don't doubt that you care for this girl and your intentions are good, however, you are not helping her and cannot right now. Just so you understand, the forum guidelines do not require only certain roles to post in certain places, they do however say you can't tell others to shut up, remain silent or not post.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/29/2007 5:14:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: TwiztdErotic

Honestly, laurell, do you have a problem absorbing information or are you just that miserable in life that you feel compelled to belittle everyone else? Both this thread and my other thread state very clearly that she will be seeing a specialist. she has an appointment tomorrow.
Notice that this thread is posted in the 'Ask a Master' section and not 'Ask a submissive/slave'. If you don't have anything valuable to contribute, remain silent. you're probably much cuter with your mouth shut (or full) anyway.

REALLY not trying to start a pissing contest here TwiztdErotic......However, i must point out that Laurell has been nothing but kind, generous, supportive, and encouraging to me.....Maybe it is the whole You get back what You put out theory...just a thought........................
Kali

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/29/2007 5:16:51 PM

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Notice that this thread is posted in the 'Ask a Master' section and not 'Ask a submissive/slave'. If you don't have anything valuable to contribute, remain silent. you're probably much cuter with your mouth shut (or full) anyway.

Now that was just stupid, rude and uncalled for. She was making a response to someone not you and frankly, she is right. If someone is unable or unwilling to deal with someone who has a mental disorder or illness they shouldn't be with them. I have no problems with someone passing me by for my depression.

You will find very quickly that almost everyone posts everywhere they like here. Go look at "Ask a Submissive" where you will find plenty of masters and mistresses posting. Do you suggest they would look cuter with their mouths filled?

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/29/2007 5:16:52 PM

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Thanks Kali.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/29/2007 5:20:53 PM

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Notice that this thread is posted in the 'Ask a Master' section and not 'Ask a submissive/slave'.

Did anyone else giggle?

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/29/2007 5:22:00 PM

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Oh I'm just waiting to see if he agrees that the d-types who post in "Ask a Submissive/Slave" should have their mouths filled as well or if he suggests we run the owners out with pitchforks.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/29/2007 5:22:17 PM

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ok.... now it all makes sense.... i was actully wondering what kind of mental health issue was happening... now let me say, people with manic depression (more commonly now called bipolar disorder) must be verrrrrrry careful and take excellent care of themselves. Sleep disturbance is not just an issue, it is a symptom of the disorder. If Y/you would like to read more about this disorder, may i suggest:
http://www.helpguide.org/mental/bipolar_disorder_symptoms_treatment.htm#Bipolar_disorder_signs_symptoms

she is right - she can't control her moods. Only medicine can do that, and then not always and not always well. A common misperception is that people with this disorder, on meds, can be normal... This is not always the case. They can still have highs and lows that are much more manageable but may in fact still be having serious struggles. They also might be fine for long stretches of time only to find themselves in a manic or depressive cycle that breaks out from the medicine. Also, sleep problems are always an issue for people with this disorder (it is one of the ways that it is diagnosed).

i can only hope that any Dom who is committed to puppy and others with this condition will be very careful about the reality of the situation and not have completely unrealistic expectations. Having worked with patients, having a sister with, and a good friend who also lives with this disorder, i am intimately aware of how this works...

The most important thing a Dom can do - or anyone who wants to support a person with bipolar - is to help them to take their medications and to encourage them to go to a support group for others with this disorder.

Good luck, puppy.... may you find what you seek... (and take your meds and go to a support group for people with bipolar)

And Twisted - good luck to You as well... You were in a difficult situation it would seem.... may You also find what You seek...

*smiles

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/29/2007 5:25:43 PM

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you are not helping her and cannot right now.

I'm curious.. what, exactly, makes you so qualified to make that judgment after having read some posts on a forum over the course of a few days?

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Dom, sub, switch, slave, purple headed giraffe, we all make mistakes, we are all human, and we are all different. To ever say there's any one answer or set of rules or dogma that should be followed is just bad advice. It's never my attempt to do so.

This is your signature, perhaps you should reread it. Presenting your personal (poorly informed) opinion on the matter as absolute fact is just plain foolish.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/29/2007 5:28:26 PM

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you are not helping her and cannot right now.

I'm curious.. what, exactly, makes you so qualified to make that judgment after having read some posts on a forum over the course of a few days?

She's bipolar and you aren't a therapist.

If you want to help her so much, talk to her therapist and see if they think you can. Your best course of action to help her is putting aside your own ego, your own desires and listening to people who are trained, have the eduction and can advise you well. Even if it means you don't get to do any of the things you want.

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RE: open for response until 7am est - 11/29/2007 5:28:31 PM

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Oh I'm just waiting to see if he agrees that the d-types who post in "Ask a Submissive/Slave" should have their mouths filled as well or if he suggests we run the owners out with pitchforks.

not at all. However, if you don't have anything valuable to contribute then why bother wasting your time when you weren't asked in the first place?

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