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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/28/2008 1:57:39 PM   
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I appreciate this post and your willingness to read through all the responses.

I have a question for you now, how will you feel if you lose your hair one day? Would it matter to you?


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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/28/2008 2:10:02 PM   
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I've shaved my head, so I'm prepared. My father started losing his younger than mine, so maybe I am lucky in that regard, but I enjoyed the time I spent bald. I guess I am blessed with a good "bald head."

I guess I should explain also that my amusement was not that people were shocked by the hair cutting, but the inferences made by even the proposal. Talk of degradation, humiliation, like someone was standing overhead with a pair of pruning shears, asking how someone could even conceive of something so horrible. I see now that is it on par with a sense of self-identity that was wrong to belittle, even if that wasn't the intention. But the inferred drama was still amusing to me, considering I had even stated in the OP that it would be a salon trip, and not a living room butchering.

I suppose I should apologize also for reacting to what I felt was a juvenile response. I suppose that's to be expected on an internet forum of any nature.

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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/28/2008 2:12:17 PM   
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Woohoo! and on that note, I just went from "Vanilla" to "Curious." I'm moving up in the world.

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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/28/2008 2:13:36 PM   
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I like at least a handful of hair. to be able to grab hold. Other then that, I don't have a problem with how anyone keeps their hair as long as it is clean and neat.  If a female wanted my to cut my hair.   I would be willing.  Growing hair is not an option.
If a submissive had  hair I didn't care for.color or length I would let her know what I prefer and if she wants to change it, I would leave that up to her.  I would respect my subs personal hair choice and my desire to keep my privates in one piece.  Not wanting to see Red Sonja with firebolts and all.  It is one thing to be dominant another to be an idiot and mess with a womans hair.
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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/28/2008 2:19:40 PM   
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When I first joined CM, I was contacted by several different top types that complimented my hair, then immediately asked how I felt about them cutting it off.  I was amused and confused as to why they would want to cut off something they found so beautiful...... but to each his own.

Funny thing is, one of these guys was a hair stylist by profession.  Maybe he just didn't get the same warm fuzzies from cutting other peoples hair? 

My owner recently mentioned how hot I would look with a white streak in my hair.  We were watching Sweeney Todd.  

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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/28/2008 2:22:04 PM   
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Haha, or Harry Potter, because I think she just kept the white streaks from that movie. I could see that, sure.

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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/28/2008 3:47:39 PM   
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I stopped wearing a bra for him.  That took some getting used to but now when I have to wear a bra for some reason, its a pain in the butt. 



i'm thinking that if wearing a bra is a pain in the butt, you probably aren't putting it on right. *wink*


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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/28/2008 3:52:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: gypsygrl

I stopped wearing a bra for him.  That took some getting used to but now when I have to wear a bra for some reason, its a pain in the butt. 



i'm thinking that if wearing a bra is a pain in the butt, you probably aren't putting it on right. *wink*



Maybe that's why it's a pain!

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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/28/2008 3:58:00 PM   
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Maybe that's why it's a pain!


i can understand a feeling of constriction or the underwired digging in uncomfortably; but even with my limited experience with wearing bras, even i know that if it's hurting your butt something has really gone wrong.


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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/28/2008 6:28:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: darchChylde

quote:

ORIGINAL: gypsygrl

I stopped wearing a bra for him.  That took some getting used to but now when I have to wear a bra for some reason, its a pain in the butt. 



i'm thinking that if wearing a bra is a pain in the butt, you probably aren't putting it on right. *wink*



lmao

You probably  have a point there. 



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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/28/2008 8:34:49 PM   
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I am actually a female. I do not understand this. It is JUST hair & it will grow back... to me anyway. So to say it's just men who don't get it is oh so wrong.

Smiles.



that's exactly how I feel about my hair... I start whacking it off when I'm so mad if I could spit nails, I would, but I can't, so I cut my hair. My ex loved my long rope of curly hair...He pissed me off about me wanting to get a trim. I went and got my shears and cut right through the ponytail and laid it on his pillow.
Hair grows back. Deal with it, guys....Besides...long hair really doesn't look all that snazzy on older women...

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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/29/2008 9:39:24 AM   
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As someone who has had both long hair and short hair, my opinion on the topic is this, stated from a woman's perspective -- although I suppose it could go either way:

For me, when a man (Dom or not) asks me to change my hair, or to change the way I dress, I may view that as the first step in a long line of requests to change ME. Subtle things, like "Cut your hair" or "Wear this kind of dress" can eventually lead up to other, more substantial changes that can end up making a woman feel as though she isn't good enough -- pretty enough, classy enough, etc. -- for her man. After all, when a woman first meets a man and he is attracted to her, isn't he attracted to her hair, face, body, clothing, etc.? The whole package? So when he asks her to start changing things about herself, I believe it tends to undermine her self-confidence and she starts to ponder why he's asking her to change at all. Is he attracted to a woman with shorter hair and wants her to emulate that? Or is he the jealous type and doesn't want her to be attractive to other men, so he tries to make her less attractive by changing her hairstyle or style of dress? Also, I believe that asking a woman to ADD things -- piercings, tattoos, etc. -- doesn't quite have the same effect as changing what already exists.

I once dated a man who declared that he didn't want me to wear make-up. Believe me -- I NEED the make-up!! But to please him, I complied and went au naturel on the face. When he saw me without the make-up (probably even forgetting that he'd even asked), he said, "Do you feel okay? You look sick." LOL That did wonders for my ego, and from then on, I continued to wear make-up.

So...maybe the issue of refusing the request to cut one's hair isn't about the hair at all. It's about maintaining self-confidence, or even perhaps a measure of control not to lose the identity that the person had at the beginning of a relationship. After all, if you liked me when we first met and I had long hair (or short hair), why do you now want to change me?


Personally, I don't feel this way.  I've known a number of submissives who have deepened there slavery by complying to their Dominant's orders on what to wear.  Sometimes this can be humiliating, and complying can be troubling, but I do think it deepens the slave's commitment. 

It can be part of the dynamics in a relationship, and not necessarily a statement of how one looks and one's concept of one's self.  It can be just, 'I'd like you to wear this sexy skirt.' 

Just my opinion.

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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/29/2008 9:50:12 AM   
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This is a bit of a random post but after talking to a fellow Dominant about our own choice of hair styling, an interesting subject arose. There's a bit of an unusual hard limit out there, and it deals with hair.

Let me say, I am a fan of short hair on girls. Not that I expect anything as sheared as a buzz cut, but I like to see the shoulders and neck. A good rule would be enough to get a fist full. But, in reflection, every sub has posted an objection to the idea of getting a hair cut. I find this suddenly amusing. There have been less objections to piercings, tattoos, spanking, humiliation, nasty names, and roughly every depraved thing one can imagine. The minute you suggest cutting someone's hair, welcome to a new limit. I suppose a piercing heals, but a bad haircut feels like forever?

I think they should add this to the limits lists, and in curiosity, I want to know if anyone else has stories related to their locks, or the loss thereof. So, question, girls: Would you let a Dominant choose your hairstyle?

We'll say they make a salon trip out of it, a professional cut, and not just grabbing a pair of scissors. Cheers!


i was exactly the opposite when i met my 1st Dom. My hair was very short/he wanted it much longer. Boy, oh boy did i balk! lol, now it's almost shoulder length and i'm going to keep it this length. What was i fussing about??

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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/29/2008 10:07:50 AM   
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I gave control of my hair over to Master 11 years ago. He loved my long hair, which was about to my bra strap. He wanted me to grow it longer, and I complied. I had hair that was just below my waist. I would from time to time get sick of it and tell him I wanted to cut my hair. One time, tears actually welled up in his eyes and he said, "NO! You're never cutting it!"

About two months ago, I asked him again if I could cut my hair and he said YES! I was out the door so fast- I didn't want him to change his mind! I have had Bettie Page style bangs for a while, and now I have the shoulder length hair to go with it! I love my new shorter hair, and Master loves it too! He said I can keep it. I love being able to actually have a hair style. Long hair is such a pain in the ass- what pushed me over the edge was I was scrubbing the toilet and my pony tail dipped into the toilet water!

If Master ever asked me to cut my hair really short, I just don't think I could do it. Women have to feel good about their hair, or we just don't feel sexy and beautiful.

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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/29/2008 10:27:24 AM   
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many a woman can and do look exceptionally cute/lovely/attractive/beautiful with short hair, however, i am NOT one of them, i would not like it, but i would not go so far as to make it a hard limit i dont think, but its all a mout point for me as Master has informed me if i cut my hair again, there will be dire consequences, one being he will shave his mustache, a sin worse then most i can fathom

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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/29/2008 1:32:46 PM   
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If my hair stays the same, or looks 'normal' for too long, people start to worry about me. Besides, the Mr. gets to live vicariously through me this way; his office is definitely not lacking in the dress code area.

All parties involved are winners, and my 'do remains my own.

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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/29/2008 2:10:39 PM   
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Thanks for bringing up this topic, I think it's really interesting. I'd like to share an experience I had...
 
In one of the most intense nights of our entire relationship, my first Master dragged me into the bathroom and cut my over-shoulder-long, hitherto never-messed-about-with hair to matchstick length. At first the shock numbed me, then when he was about halfway done I used my safeword, for the first and only time ever. I was furious, incredulous, shaking. We talked things through, and I calmed down, eventually. It was telling that I didn't stop him until it was too late. He eventually finished the job, also dying my hair black for good measure. I looked completely different than I ever had in my life. A look I would never have chosen for myself. It made me more His than any sign he could have left on me, because it was so public. The next day - at work, my friends, my family - over and over again I had to answer to curious questions and comments, blushing every time. No matter what vanilla cover-up story I recounted to my colleagues or relatives, the words screaming through my brain were always "Master wanted me like this. I am His.". A public, 24/7 marking.
 
It was also intensely liberating. It helped me shrug off the final remains of the girl my father, boyfriends, ex-husband had wanted me to be, freeing me to find out who I was, how I wanted to look. And the final great realisation: you know what? It's just hair. It grows back. A bad cut, or radical change, is really not such a big deal. You grow with it.

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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/29/2008 3:33:22 PM   
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I'm going to go through and read the rest of the responses, but before I do I wanted to comment on this - We might have different ideas of what 'healthy' hair is, but I'll assume you mean shiny and silky (from the 'silky to crappy' comment).  If your hair is no longer shiny or silky after having a checmical treatment like that done to it, then it is probably a result of how it was done, or who did it, or the products used, rather than the process itself.

I've had my hair dyed, and permed (never at the same time though) and there have been good and bad expierences.  I would never EVER try to do a perm at home.  I would never go to a cheap knock-off salon, one of the $10 dollar cut places that my Master goes to himself.  A high-quality salon, with knowledgeable staff and good products should be able to get you a healthy-looking perm, without casuing a noticable difference in shinienes or silkiness.

Make sure you are using the correct products for your chemical treatment as well - you don't have to get the salon products (at $22 each, if you're lucky), but moisturizing shampoo and conditioner for permed hair, or color-saving shampoo for colored hair will help a lot.  Possibly a leave in conditioner if needed.

As far as my thoughts on my Master controling my hair - to an extent he does.  He likes red hair, so I have red hair.  He would like fire-engine red, but that would make finding a job (or keeping one) hard, so it looks natural for now.  If he ever desires me not to work, I would dye it brighter.

I am not sure if I could let him pick a cut though.  Long, short, medium, shaved - that would be fine, but the actual cut (excluding shaved, of course) would have to be my decission, because I know what works with my face from years of expierence, and he does not.

I wouldn't say it's a hard limit for me, but certanily close.

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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/29/2008 5:30:01 PM   
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I trust my boy's taste in style, and, really, whenever I get my hair cut I ask him what he would like my hair to look like and I go with that. Lucky for me, he always says "Exactly how it looked last time he cut it." But I'd do whatever he wanted, unless it was perming because I despise curly hair (at least on me, it would look atrocious!)


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RE: Hair-ed Limits... - 1/29/2008 8:09:44 PM   
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UMMM to the OP....FK NO!!!!!! Not even for a little nano second.

my Daddy loves my hair loooooong....together we are a hairy couple (head wise).....and i just asked him last night about cutting layers....LONG ones....i had waited about 8 months since the last time i asked....and the answer remains. NO.

i would not freak over this....but if he wanted me to cut it off...OMG,.....the TRAUMA......i don't know if i could.....too scary to think about.....im gonna go make an appointment with my therapist now....ooshh....cleaning out my brain now.

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