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So, you are a "slave" - 7/27/2008 10:59:45 PM   
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I have to wonder at times. People who post all about how much a slave they are in a profile.

But nothing about any skills they have?

Is it all about playing then?

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/27/2008 11:10:32 PM   
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We have no way of knowing that without talking to them.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/27/2008 11:14:40 PM   
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We have no way of knowing that without talking to them.


I guess when someone rattles on and on about slavery-it makes you wonder when the word "serve" is pretty much forgotten in the whole diatribe.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/27/2008 11:22:47 PM   
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I suppose it depends on what their motivation is.

At the same token, there are lots of dominant folks who want to receive all they can without actually extending much of their own effort to get it.

It boils down to that great "compatibility" word.  And sometimes people want what they want but don't know how to get it...on both sides of the spectrum.  I just wouldn't automatically decide they must only want to play.  Maybe they do, but then...maybe not.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/27/2008 11:47:49 PM   
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More and more, I get the feeling that the word is only something connected to bad pornography.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 12:15:34 AM   
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More and more, I get the feeling that the word is only something connected to bad pornography.

never mind maybe it's just called the ageing process


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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 12:21:19 AM   
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A lot of people are beginners or don't have a clue.  Not to mention those who have lost hope.  That is what I assume.  Even though I respond better to someone who has filled in their profile, it is still words on both our parts and needs to be examined for common perceptions of how those words apply among a large number of other criteria.

I love slaves, but I don't slant my profile for them.  Almost none of the detail that I would include in looking for a slave is presented to the general public.  But then again, I mostly fit the generic understanding of an owner so any experienced slave just has to ask the right questions to find out my specifics.



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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 12:29:22 AM   
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I have to wonder at times. People who post all about how much a slave they are in a profile.

But nothing about any skills they have?

Is it all about playing then?

oh why oh why do i take the bait?
i am a slave. If you want to argue the toss ask Indigowolf who owns me. He's the only one who really understands what 'type' of slave i am (that's because He owns me).
i am slave. Ask my kids and Indigowolf's kids all the other kids in the neighbourhood who have adopted me....they call me mother.
i write. My publisher is often metaphorically on my nack. He has two nom de plumes to which he refers.
i am slave: ask my co-workers how i serve it.....
ask anyone who knows me ansd they will give you an insight (from their perspective) on how i slave in that context.
i am also a submissive as the two are close in nature BUT being a slave is what i am and doing submission is what i do....but not easily. i can of course been slaving it all day in some capacity or other and be just too goddam dog tired to want to have to 'do' anything that is submissive. That's what it feels like to me by the way.
Then i will have to be dragged by my hair blind-folded, hog-tied and bow tied and whipped and just left for a while until i am calm enough to do something submissive.
i'm very clear.
W/we have a system, It depends upon what term He uses for me as to which 'me' he is referring toand wants service from.
As i have other names and roles in my life. but you may call me Prinsexx.
As to how much of a slave i am.....The only role which comes without any anxiety, the only role which is spiritual for me, the only capacity in which i have no limits because my limits are His is as His slave.
Can i get coffee now please?


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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 12:31:12 AM   
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Sure, I need to go to bed.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 12:43:38 AM   
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“I’m half a slave ………….. please make me whole!!!”  /Hey lady, make it whole yourself and call when your done. 

“I’m half a slave ………….. help me discover the other half!!!”  /Hey lady, come back when you find the other half.  We only want whole slaves around these here parts.
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…and so goes most of the mail I get and about 30% of the real life requests I get.  Yes, play slaves, ½ slaves, weekend slaves… etc.  I once had a ‘step slave’.  For real, she was my dad’s submissive (not slave) and when he died she asked me to take over the family.   After introducing her to some things like bisexuality, beatings (dad wasn’t a sadist), sleeping on a chain, dungeon parties etc, she was convinced she was a slave.  Mind you, after he died, I only spent about a week a month on the other coast with her.  So this was all very part time stuff. 

Nonetheless after a few months, I started introducing her as my step slave and she wanted her role to become official.  I cured her of that in 45 minutes when she flew in to consummate her slavery.  On the way home from the airport, I took her to the piercing parlor and told her to put her tit in the counter so they could see what gauge rings we would pierce her nipples with.  She sorta’ freaked out and I explained she had to get pierced just like all the other girls were.  Yup… you guessed it.  She spoke these very words… “part time slave”.  LMAO

like you said: “Is it all about playing”

Whenever some numbnuts tells me what she wants, how she wants me to fuck her etc, I just want to tell her how much I charge to “service” someone like that.  A slave may even try and seduce you by saying she will give you her ass for your pleasure.  Everyone else says “I want you to fuck me in the ass.”  

A slave explains what she brings, as in “this slave presents” etc.  To see a profile that talks about what kind of “Master” some “slave” seeks makes me laugh my ass off.  A slave can explain what she seeks… but she sure as well better list what she offers an “exchange” based relationship.  

So Leatherist, what brought about this post?  Just profile surfing? 

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 1:02:10 AM   
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like you said: “Is it all about playing”



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good morning Resident Sadist



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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 3:08:00 AM   
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I am a slave. I don't know what it is that makes me so, but evidently I am one. I was just fine with the idea that I was a submissive, and I've never really wanted this, nor have I sought it out, yet in my interactions with my Master, I am one. I've come to accept this, but it wasn't without a LOT of struggle and angst along the way. And whatever it is that I do that makes me one, I do so very willingly and most of the time, very enthusiastically - even when it's something I would really rather not do.

What do I bring to the table? Again, I'm not really sure what constitutes slavish quality skills. I don't see that what I do is really any different than what other people do, and yet, I'm assured that it is. I've been told "you're different. You're special." Yet, I don't understand that. What's so special about a woman who is with the best man she's ever met in her life and wants to do whatever he says - whatever that is.

What I do know is that in 6 years, I've said "no" precisely once to something he's wanted. That was in regard to attending a wedding reception for a friend. He preferred staying where we were. I said I wanted to as well, but didn't think I could/should do that. They were our friends and we'd been invited. One of the people in the couple had been my friend for years and years and years. I said that if he wanted to stay, then I completely understood and that I'd attend the reception and represent him if that was ok with him, but I felt that at least one of us should attend. That's it. We went to the reception. He was right, we shouldn't have gone. The guy up and ended it less than two years later. But it was still something that I felt was important to do - if even just for her.

I do know that we talk about our work a lot and that each gives each other insight into what's happening there that the other might not have had prior to the conversation, but doesn't everyone do that with the person they care about? And since it's reciprocal, I don't understand how that can be slavish.

And ok, I love fishing as much as he does, but in the end, while I can bait a hook and take a fish off of it, since I can't seem to cut into anything that's looking at me, and using a towel for a fishy blindfold so far, doesn't seem to be working for me, he cleans the fish. So I can't even say I do that. But I did try - and I keep trying.

I guess all I can say is that I bring obedience and the effort to do what he says at all times. I bring trust - in him, in his actions, and even in his lack of action sometimes. I accept him exactly as he is without attempting to change him. I guess there are a lot of little things I do, but honestly, I can't say that those are "slave" things. To me, they're just things that I do willingly and enthusiastically and that even after 6 years, I look forward to (heck, even cleaning the very very dirty carpet on his boat by hand was fun to me - I'm weird I think). I also care very deeply for him - ok, I love him... so does love constitute slavery? Or does it nullify it? I don't know. I just know I do love and I am his slave.

But anyway, he doesn't like piercings, so getting my nipples pierced - if that's a sign of slavery, I don't do. (come to think of it, this is a very good thing, because I hate nipple piercings as well.) In my opinion, they're not a good idea in my profession. I have a hard time with the idea that I'd be standing up in front of a bunch of hormone happy young people in the middle of winter when it's perpetually cold in my building and have to hide rings on top of cold nipples.

He doesn't punish for infractions, so it's not like my slavery is characterized by how much of a beating I can take when I've done something wrong. In fact, I try like hell NOT to do anything wrong - not for fear of a beating, cause like I said, he doesn't do that, but for fear of disappointing him. I can't stand that thought.

Although I am  a masochist and can (so far) pretty much take whatever beating he feels free to give when he wants to. I guess I could say I also don't ask him to do that since he doesn't want me asking.

I do know that 6 years ago he said no masturbation and that sometimes it's very very VERY difficult, but that the last time I did that was 6 years ago - and it's not like we see each other every day.

I do know that while I enjoy other people, I'm essentially monogamous - except by his direction, and that he's poly. Whatever I do, I do for him, because of him and with him, and I never veer from this. I also have a lot of fun along the way, but in the end, it's still him that's first and foremost in my mind, no matter what it is we undertake or who we meet. I know that that sometimes causes me a lot of angst, and still, I am excited for him when he finds someone new - and I even look for him, always trusting in the idea that someday, we'll meet someone who will just click with me, and I'll be able to join him in his love of others. In the meantime, if it's difficult for me, then that's a personal problem because to do anything else would be denying him the opportunity to be who he is. He is allowing me to be who I am - even if he'd probably prefer someone who is more like him in this regard.

In the end, these topics of "what do you bring to the table as a slave" always confuse me, because as a slave, wouldn't what I bring to the table really just feel like normal life? To me they do - cause I don't really know how to answer that question - and never have.


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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 5:59:00 AM   
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I just want to tell her how much I charge to “service” someone like that

so just for .. uh.. curiosity's sake, how much do you charge?

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 6:17:08 AM   
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I just want to tell her how much I charge to “service” someone like that

so just for .. uh.. curiosity's sake, how much do you charge?


Hahaha ohboy I was about to ask RS the same thing! I have a really big change jar on my dresser...


Leatherist I can't figure out what kind of skills a slave needs to list. Honest I can't.
Aside from being a basically obedient person, doesn't it all end up being based on compatibility between the two people?


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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 6:20:19 AM   
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Leatherist I can't figure out what kind of skills a slave needs to list. Honest I can't.
Aside from being a basically obedient person, doesn't it all end up being based on compatibility between the two people?



ditto ...


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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 6:23:29 AM   
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This is just my pet peeve here talking, but unless one is owned I don't think one can be a slave.

Same why that I cannot be an owner without someone I own. Slave and owner (or it's various titles) are relationship titles. No relationship = no title in my opinion.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 6:24:40 AM   
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So you see 'slave' as a position, not disposition?



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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 6:30:54 AM   
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quote:

I have to wonder at times. People who post all about how much a slave they are in a profile.

But nothing about any skills they have?

Is it all about playing then?


Just browsed your profile. You list leather and metal work as skills. Surely you have more? You don't mention them if you do. Pot, kettle, black?
 
It would take an age to list all my skills i could bring to my service to Sir. Just for you though considering i think (might be wrong) someone pissed in your cheerios at the time of posting this i will tell you the most important skill i bring to my Sir....................I give gr8 head



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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 6:41:55 AM   
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Daddy named me as "slave" in personality.  TheEngineer doesnt really name me as anything but "his".

this morning i have been:  lunch maker, alternate alarm clock, teddybear, sex object, seamstress, dinner planner, laundress, thing finder, consultant on matter of finance....and its not yet 9 am.  normal day for me!

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 6:51:01 AM   
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Leatherist...

While I think it is about playing to many, I don't think that can be determined because they don't list skills in an introductory profile.  Sure, some are not slaves, they just want to believe they are- as it somehow is perceived as a deeper form of submission and seems to get them into a more elite club.  But, I can certainly see where a person with slave tendencies would not list their skills...

After all, while compatibility is important, is not a slave's duties defined by their Master?  Just because a certain skill is present (or lacking)- does it really make any difference in the grand scheme of things?  Most skills can be acquired with time and practice, and while a Master may wish to collar a slave with a particular skill already in place- would that not be something better discussed one on one than listed in a profile?

I don't try to make myself fit within a label.  Submissive, slave, whatever- I simply am what Master needs me to be for Him.  And I LOVE that I am able to be those things.  If He told me that He needed me to be fluent in German for Him, I'd be enrolled in the next class I could find.  If He needed a carpenter and wanted me to have those skills, I'd be learning all I could about woodworking.  While I might never be a master craftsperson, I have confidence that I can tackle whatever I take on.  Which gives me the confidence to know that I can be what He desires.  Mostly, though, He wants to know that I will always make the effort for Him, and that I do so with a willing and loving heart.  All I am, and can be, are His- and I would deny Him nothing that is within my power to give.  Luckily, I know He will never ask me to do anything that would be detrimental to me, because there was a lot of talk and mutual exploration before I was collared.    

While I am obviously not in the market for another Master, if I were, I would not be listing specific skills in my profile.  Instead, I would be talking about my work ethic and my desire to please.  By listing specifics, I could be eliminating myself from situations that I most certainly could handle, just because I don't have a certain skill set right now. Life changes, people evolve, and Masters all want different things from their slaves. 

Instead of saying what he/she can or can't do, is it not more prudent for a slave to discuss their potential with a would-be Master?

Edited because typing before the coffee kicks in is never a good idea!  

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