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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 8:26:53 AM

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My issue is that they don't even bother to list common vanilla things that show they have at least some functionality in the role. It's always some overblown fantasy of what they expect the Owner to do for THEM.

Which does not come across as exactly service oriented. More like a bottom who has been watching too many "sex and submission" video samples.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 8:41:58 AM

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Bs is bs at any age.

Vouch. Also, i can't help but notice that the sincerity of young male slaves wasn't brought into question. Regardless, no one likes having their credibility questioned based on something beyond their control. However, even though i am young, i can comprehend how having a loving, closely knit community with it's own history and traditions(which many of You may have very well have contributed to) demeaned by children who think collars are neat, can be frustrating. It is my belief Leatherist(apologies if you have a preference for being addressed) was not attempting to condemn a group of individuals within His own community.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 8:55:27 AM

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Stupid little 20 year old girls who just come on here to yank people's chains dude.

i just love Collarme for its entertainment value just in case you thought i had no sense of humour and would find your comment offensive.
Edited to add: i can also give head, say thank you Master and laugh all at the same time.......

Who the fuck can be a slave with no real life experience-do you get that with ten cheerios box tops and a five dollar shipping and handling charge? At least you HAVE been under someone's hand for real.

i take your point. however, there are at least two very 'real' issues here. First of all i consider your statement to be ageist. How many years experience as a slave is as ridiculous as the statement how many years experience as a Dom, or how many years in the lifestyle. i was born slave....i haven't changed my orientation since my earliest memories and ways of being in the world. OK, so i may have changed my ways of HAVING...for example i have more experience, that's all it is. There's no way of proving what this experience looks like (save for the scars perhaps) and there is no way of proving the skills as a slave. Whereas you personally, and i know this to be true, design, create and perfect near works of art in leather and other materials. i respect you for that. But on this side of the dynamic i as slave, well i am a void, i am emptiness, i am waiting, i am patience, i am quiet, i am silence and so on and so forth.
Secondly and again this is an ageist concern: when one starts as a slave officially dpends upon the age of consent and also in discussion, the TOS here. If i was a sexual slave as a child could i admit it and describe it here? i may have had at least ten years of eperience by the time i was 20 for all you know and for all i care to disclose.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 9:06:01 AM

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I have to wonder at times. People who post all about how much a slave they are in a profile.

But nothing about any skills they have?

Is it all about playing then?

What does it matter? Unless and until she is owned, she is not a slave.

ok i'll take the bait yet again.
Fox has already stated this point of view and so this is in response to Fox and to you and to anyone else who thinks ownership a necessary premise of being a slave. IF ONLY.
(According to that logic then it would mean that in order to be a Dominant one had to have a submissive, IF ONLY. That would cut out many of the trolling Doms around here and ssave me the trouble of still having to block mailers. It would also mean that all the slavless masters would disappear also. OMG....how many profiles would there be on this site then?
At what point in my ex relationship did i stop being a slave? did i stop being slave when i got pissed off procurrin? Did i stop being a slave when i thought internally oh i release myself? Did i stop being a slave when i told the ex i had released myself? Did i stop being a slave, when through weeks and weeks of drama discussed here on Collarme, did i stop being slave when i publicly said damn you know that's my lat act of submission?
Well if i did stop being slave how come my One recognised me? How come i arrived with all of those qualities on my profile? How come i agreed to be collared, be married, be mother, sight un-seen? yes you heard it sight unseen? Because that is the way i interpret slavery. It is my essence.
i'll be a slave until the day i die regardless.....no matter what colour the traffic lights are, green amber or red, stop, start or carry on regardless.......

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 9:21:32 AM

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Who the fuck can be a slave with no real life experience-do you get that with ten cheerios box tops and a five dollar shipping and handling charge? At least you HAVE been under someone's hand for real.

See i knew this had something to do with cheerios.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 9:22:09 AM

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Ummm prinsexx i think i love you, lol.

Funny how dominants/Masters state they are such despite not owning a subbie/slave but we who identify as slaves aren't slaves until owned.

edited to add: i'd really like to know who has the right to decide who is a slave and who isn't.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 9:27:00 AM

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I'm more curious as to know how peoples profiles can get someones knickers in such a twist!!
If you don't like what you read, you move on until you do find something you like to read.
*shrugs*
For me it really is that simple and not worth tirading about.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 9:28:13 AM

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Hello to all slave princess..

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 9:30:57 AM

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I'm more curious as to know how peoples profiles can get someones knickers in such a twist!!
If you don't like what you read, you move on until you do find something you like to read.
*shrugs*
For me it really is that simple and not worth tirading about.

Without those "knickers in such a twist" there would be no message board. Think of all the entertainment and humor lost!?

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 9:31:51 AM

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I'm more curious as to know how peoples profiles can get someones knickers in such a twist!!
If you don't like what you read, you move on until you do find something you like to read.
*shrugs*
For me it really is that simple and not worth tirading about.

Where's the fun in that?

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 9:33:37 AM

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I'm more curious as to know how peoples profiles can get someones knickers in such a twist!!
If you don't like what you read, you move on until you do find something you like to read.
*shrugs*
For me it really is that simple and not worth tirading about.

Without those "knickers in such a twist" there would be no message board. Think of all the entertainment and humor lost!?

oooooo never thought of that.
It would become all high brow and stuff.
Me not likey then

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 9:39:01 AM

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I have to wonder at times. People who post all about how much a slave they are in a profile.

But nothing about any skills they have?

Is it all about playing then?

Well, when faced with such an important issue, I think it's crucial that I ask myself a few questions before employing large amounts of mental power in it's exploration.

1. What impact does the blatant "misrepresentation" of the word "slave" have on my life?

2. If we determined their "slave" lifestyle to be all about the play, would we then take action to stop such lifestyles or would we just simply say "Oh...they are all about the play." and then move on with our lives?

3. Based on the answers I reach in questions two and three, should I care?

Nope, I really shouldn't.

I think I'm always going to run into people in BDSM or otherwise who don't understand, view, or "get" things the way I do and I don't think that's ever going to change even though I might wish they did. Despite such large numbers of people who are incompatible with me, I still manage to find girls who view and understand the concept of "slavery" the same way I do.

However, I can't say I've ever felt a need to start a condescending thread subtly mocking such people for not having the same lifestyle, definitions, and understanding as me nor do I understand the obvious need for the majority of people into BDSM to assert themselves as "better", "more enlightened", "Truer", or whatever for having such differences.

I'm starting to think that "elitism" is a kink in and of itself since it's the activity most actively engaged in.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 9:39:57 AM

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Without those "knickers in such a twist" there would be no message board. Think of all the entertainment and humor lost!?

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oooooo never thought of that.
It would become all high brow and stuff.
Me not likey then

*giggles and tries to imagine CM as a highbrow site*

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 9:49:11 AM

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Bs is bs at any age.

I agree. And what bigger BS is there then to start a thread under the guise of "discussion" that only really serves the purpose of preening egos?

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 9:50:42 AM

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For me being a slave is who i am, even though it took me years to reconginze the signs. Having the heart of a slave has nothing to do with whether I am owned at that moment or not. I could make a list of examples, trying to show how the slave in me shows through in everyday life, but in light of the fact that slaves are all different i know that wouldn't begin to cover peoples experiences. I realize that being an unowned slave is a hard thing for some people to comprehend but slavery isn't about who i serve it is about what i am at my very core. No i don't need anyones stamp of approval as to whether I'm a slave or not; however, I do want to point out that making blanket judgements about people usually ends up in a wrong assumption

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 10:00:52 AM

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Stupid little 20 year old girls who just come on here to yank people's chains dude.

ok bro... point taken.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 10:04:35 AM

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Without those "knickers in such a twist" there would be no message board. Think of all the entertainment and humor lost!?

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oooooo never thought of that.
It would become all high brow and stuff.
Me not likey then

*giggles and tries to imagine CM as a highbrow site*

It already is lol.
Every post i make gushes with high brow views.
I would never resort to using wit, sarcasm, insults here

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 10:55:15 AM

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Stupid little 20 year old girls who just come on here to yank people's chains dude.

Shame on those mean, stupid, little 20 year old girls for being such bullies.

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 11:33:35 AM

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I have to wonder at times. People who post all about how much a slave they are in a profile. But nothing about any skills they have? Is it all about playing then?

*scratches head thoughtfully*
Hrrrm, ok. So what, exactly, "skills" is it that you think a slave ought to have? For me, at least, the sub/slave terms refer to a mindset, not an activity. I call mine a "slave" because she fits my definition of that. When I give her her progress reports, they don't contain things like "can do activity x". Instead, they say things like, "Focuses on her Master's needs and wants". So what is it exactly that you think a slave ought to be "skilled" at?

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RE: So, you are a "slave" - 7/28/2008 11:50:04 AM

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*scratches head thoughtfully*
Hrrrm, ok. So what, exactly, "skills" is it that you think a slave ought to have? For me, at least, the sub/slave terms refer to a mindset, not an activity. I call mine a "slave" because she fits my definition of that. When I give her her progress reports, they don't contain things like "can do activity x". Instead, they say things like, "Focuses on her Master's needs and wants". So what is it exactly that you think a slave ought to be "skilled" at?

I would have to argue that "slavery" is not a mindset. "Slavery" is an imposed state, and says nothing about the individual's capacity or willingness to yield or serve. There are many, many 'submissives' who are also focused on their keepers' needs and wants" and they aren't designated as 'slaves'... so what, besides personal preference for mis-using the terminology, distinguishes a 'slave' from a 'submissive'?

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