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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:43:55 PM   
Leatherist


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and i think the bedroom part is where the difference is.

my slaves are owned property, and are here to stay, and be used to my needs: lifestyle

the subs used for sex go home, and carry on with whatever they do in their life when the sex is over: role play

so are you a slave in the bedroom, and then a mouthy, pushy, selfish bitch, when it comes to everything else?: role play



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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:44:49 PM   
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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:47:07 PM   
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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:47:09 PM   
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relax girlie girl, you can be a sub all you want. why are you in such a rush to be called a slave? are you owned by a master?

i only consider a sub to be a slave, when the sub relinquishes complete control of itself to a master.there that should be clear enough.

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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:48:10 PM   
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I wish all the authorities on lifestyle definitions would get together and get their definitions straight, because every time one of you guys climbs up on the podium and says "This is the way things our defined in the BDSM world!", the definitions are always slightly different than the last guy who did the same.

The shit is getting confusing.

I mean, how am I supposed to know if I am qualifying to be in the "cool kids" group?

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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:48:38 PM   
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do you call all these males master?

relax girlie girl, you can be a sub all you want. why are you in such a rush to be called a slave? are you owned by a master?

i only consider a sub to be a slave, when the sub relinquishes complete control of itself to a master.there that should be clear enough.



Ah, there we are! Pip pip, cheerio, someone get me a fucking crumpet!

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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:49:29 PM   
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I am sure any slave worth a hill of beans would see through that bullshit about as quick as I can see through subs calling themselves slaves.

Gregory
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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:50:44 PM   
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do you call all these males master?

relax girlie girl, you can be a sub all you want. why are you in such a rush to be called a slave? are you owned by a master?

i only consider a sub to be a slave, when the sub relinquishes complete control of itself to a master.there that should be clear enough.



I consider a slave to be a person who doesnt have the right nor mental ability to consent. I.e Born out of abuse or brainwashing, mail order brides.... I believe that as long as I have the right to leave the rlationship Im in, I can not be a slave, because a slave has no rights or choices.

You can not physically give up complete control of Everything, example, you push buttons on your girl, she gets angry but doesnt explode at you, shes still in control of her emotions...

-puts her foot in her mouth- I DONT mean that to be a change of thread to You can control emotions...


Mad Rabbit, Your part of the cool kids -hands him a juice box and shares Lyz's cookies and her popcorn-


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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:51:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		tell me what you consider a slave to be? you are so opposed to everyone else viewpoint here. you want to call green grass pink, and all this sillyniess. so please tell me, your definition of what the difference between a sub and a slave are. you can think while i cook a hot dog

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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:54:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think this would be a good time to point out that even bothering to debate with masterlink65 and his usual boon of "profound ideas" might make you seem stupid by association with him.

Keep your dignity. Just laugh.



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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:55:24 PM   
masterlink65


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Status: offline 		not control of your bowels.

more like control of finances, appearance, when you get dressed, when you brush you teeth.

and on the other side, if you have no slave, are you a master. and without a sub, what are you going to dominate, other than conversation?

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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:55:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		My viewpoint is that a slave has less say in things than a submissive does. There's no "Jeeze- no assplay tonight, I'm sore as hell" It probably wouldn't fly very well I'm guessing. Yes. It's a very vague description. It does not bother me at all- because I am lazy, and I have run out of tape for my plastic label maker.

However, that's just how I've come to see it and I don't have a problem with others disagreeing, as long as they don't try to force it on me.


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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:58:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

I think this would be a good time to point out that even bothering to debate with masterlink65 and his usual boon of "profound ideas" might make you seem stupid by association with him.

Keep your dignity. Just laugh.




You two pretty much match in arrogance rabbit-go look in the mirror.

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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:58:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		We fundamentally see sub and slaves completely differently to compound this even more. I personally don't think subs can become slaves. They are wired completely differently. Subs always look at things in terms of them and what the relationship can do for them. A slave looks at the relationship as how she can make someone else happy and how best she can serve that persons needs. A slave basically sacrifices herself to a Master and vicariously receives pleasure from his happiness. I will be waiting for all the stones to fly my way.

Gregory
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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:58:49 PM   
masterlink65


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Status: offline 		i am glad you think i am stupid overr someone who would start and arguement with " some people say grass is pink"

i havent drank boon farm in years

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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:59:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

My viewpoint is that a slave has less say in things than a submissive does. There's no "Jeeze- no assplay tonight, I'm sore as hell" It probably wouldn't fly very well I'm guessing. Yes. It's a very vague description. It does not bother me at all- because I am lazy, and I have run out of tape for my plastic label maker.

However, that's just how I've come to see it and I don't have a problem with others disagreeing, as long as they don't try to force it on me.



La has stated this well and repeatedly "authority dynamic".

But she seems to get ignored in that simple statement quite a bit.

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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 8:59:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

I think this would be a good time to point out that even bothering to debate with masterlink65 and his usual boon of "profound ideas" might make you seem stupid by association with him.

Keep your dignity. Just laugh.




You two pretty much match in arrogance rabbit-go look in the mirror.


Aww, are you still mad?

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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 9:00:17 PM   
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No limits except for what you set...

So I a sub, for some odd reason become your slave...

I can not be in a cage, being placed in one not only causes mental distress, emotional harm but It tends to trigger psycho kitten and i start clawing the flesh off of my body... Doesnt even have to be a metal cage, simply a room big or small where the lock is on the outside not inside... I start to get well CRAZY...

Should You be allowed to do this to me simply because I am your slave, Is this smart or reasonable No.

People Slaves Or Subs Doms or Masters have particular limits for a reason. I personally dont enjoy stitches very much and find being in the hospital a waste of precious serving time...


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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 9:03:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Philosopher13
. A slave basically sacrifices herself to a Master and vicariously receives pleasure from his happiness. I will be waiting for all the stones to fly my way.

Gregory
"One man with courage is a majority" Thomas Jefferson


In a vanilla relationship would you be happy doing everything and your partner in return giving you nothing

I do not doubt there are some women whos greatest joy and pleasure is serving their partner, but Not be allowed any gratification in the human world seems kind of far fetched. Personally If I served every day and was not allowed a cookie, or to cum or to have my own personal enjoyment EVER, someones toothbrush would be used to clean the toilets...

But then Im apparently a very bad subbie indeed. Asking for food and water every day...


< Message edited by hopelessfool -- 8/6/2008 9:04:30 PM >

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RE: Slaves who are subs - 8/6/2008 9:04:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

I think this would be a good time to point out that even bothering to debate with masterlink65 and his usual boon of "profound ideas" might make you seem stupid by association with him.

Keep your dignity. Just laugh.




You two pretty much match in arrogance rabbit-go look in the mirror.


Aww, are you still mad?


That would require effort-rather than laughing.

I'll just laugh instead.

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