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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 10:45:53 AM   
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Way to miss the point Beeble. What he, MistressRouge and I are complaining about are the people who ignored the fact that he was asking to be referred to quality resources, saw what they wanted to see instead of reality and started spewing venom all over the board. There was no "wankerism" involved, and anyone that believes that to be the case seriously needs to get their wank-dar retuned. When I joined the local community and started going to munches they nearly killed themselves trying to get me to ask questions like this one, so that we could have kink related discussions. If I acted the way some have here towards anyone in my kink community I would immediately be invited to leave and never come back. I'm not sure why people think being online gives them license to act that way.



Good point... read our mail sometime and you will see how our wank-dar might be a bit off.  This is online... different beast altogether.  You can't compare the two.  When we see someone claim to have a mistress.. but profile suggest something else.. what radar would you suggest we use?

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 10:58:00 AM   
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Oh I've read the email you guys get. My domme is on here, and when I'm visiting I watch her logging in here and getting an email every 10 to 15 seconds. However I can compare the two. The OP is in a long distance, realtime relationship with a Domme...you're quibbling over labels. I see my domme about once a month, sometimes a little more...but I'm not collared. Is she my mistress? Can I really call her "my domme"? Does it matter? The request was for resources that aren't full of crap...it's hard to find that stuff.

For example...in the next week or so I'm getting a chastity device, and I wanted to find some good information about how to deal with wearing one. Cleanliness, comfort and emotional / mental issues I might encounter. What happens when I do a search for that stuff? I get millions of "wanker hits". Unrealistic fantasy drivel about being locked up for years without release. If I came here and asked to be directed to something that is real and not authored by a wanker, would you treat me the same way? That's all the OP did.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 11:03:07 AM   
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You are missing the point I tried to make.  His said he had a mistress... his profile reads he is looking for a mistress... what are we to think when we see this?

And... you compare relationships and say I am using lables... I did not.  I responded to your post comparing online to the munches and real life stuff.  Big difference!

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 11:07:35 AM   
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My first question back to this would be, exactly why would either of the things you mentioned be the last thing(s) he wanted to do?  You make it sound as though attending or participating in a demo would be distasteful to him.  How do you draw that conclusion? 

The next one I have is what demos are you attending that it's a "watching people do it from afar" scenario?  The last two presentations I did, I spent the remainder of the time doing personal instruction, for both tops and bottoms.  That includes one that the demo started at two in the afternoon and the play party didn't end until sometime around two in the morning.  I realize that's just My personal way of doing things and not every presenter takes on the same sense of responsibility for additional help, but I consider that part of the package.  Not only is it fun, but that was the point of doing the demo in the first place.  People learning whatever it is that I've been asked to present. 

I actually don't use the net to learn new types of play.  When I want to learn something, I find out who's giving instruction on it and I seek them out.  I see that differently than holding an open casting call on a message forum.  I don't do it through google, either.  I take the time and the effort to invest Myself in what I'm researching.

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ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

I agree totally, what is the BIG deal here?

I for one, am saddened by the way many jump on the bandwagon of judgemental attitudes here, the op is simply asking for some CBT technique advice.

The last thing he wants to do, is get his C&Balls out at a demo, or watch others do it from afar, feels totally different actually FEELING the sensations, the tension of the leather bind, sensation of slapping, nails scratching, flicking, wax the list is endless.

Also, to analyse and dissect this poor guys motives is a tad unhelpful in my opinion, and I for one like to expand and share my knowledge especially regarding techniques that others seek. Not all posts are for wank fodder, even if it was no need to post or answer the op, just ignore and move on it it offends.

This habit of referring folk to websites, really irriates me too, what the hell are these forums for??

To share and guide, as I gladly like to do, not send them to google the lazy way out!

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 11:09:51 AM   
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Hmm...   really, we are picking on the dominant, not the OP!

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 11:27:05 AM   
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You're still missing the point Lockit, relationships are more complicated than that. The domme I'm with now doesn't want me to view her as a permanent relationship, but rather as someone to fill a needed role for a few years until someone better suited comes along. Thus, my profile still states that I'm looking. Since I don't actually search here if my relationship does progress to being collared, I likely won't think to change my profile. Where the OP only sees his domme 5 times a year it's clearly a much longer distance relationship, and she already has a primary partner. If the situation was such that he can't move to be with her, I'd be shocked if she didn't encourage him to be open to a more permanent and stable relationship.

My comparison to online and munches is about common human courtesy. I'm not naming names, but some people seem to be sorely lacking in that area.

If people can't asking a simple non-titillating question like, "Where do I find good resources?" then what is the purpose of this forum aside from moaning about "fakes and wankers"? If someone asks for advice on resources and you don't have any advice, why spew venom all over the thread? It's seriously unattractive and really detracts from the board. I come here for information, and having to wade through pointless negativity is a real detriment to that. I'm sure that I'm not the only person who lurks here for the now elusive quality discussion.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 11:31:27 AM   
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Nope... not flying by saying I am missing the point.  Address what I ask and then we can move on to another topic. 

I realise relationships are different.  I have had enough of them to know that and I do not judge that.  He said his mistress wanted him to get information... I looked at his profile so that I was not out of line and did know what was up so I didn't act out or lash out and his profile said he was looking... he didn't say I have a play time/part time mistress but am looking for a full time/real time mistress, which would clear up all those lil details.

What are we to think since we cannot read minds or between lines too well.. when it seems he is pulling one off on us?

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 11:46:56 AM   
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Are the details of his personal relationship any of our business? Why should he have to explain the nitty gritty of how his relationship works in order to ask a question? Does that affect our ability to say, "You should read Family Jewels, and check out these websites"? If he came in here and said that his mistress wanted the board members here to decide what would be done to his cock then I would agree with you that he was "pulling one off on us". What he did do was come in, say that he and his domme wanted to learn and ask for advice on resources that would be useful.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 11:56:21 AM   
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Look... the basic thing I am trying to get across to you since you decided to state that some of us were off and rude etc. is that we thought he was lying to us.  We don't care what his relationships are all about.  But we do care about someone lying or misrepresenting themselves and will red flag the situation and some of us might be rude or answer him according to how we feel. 

This is online and anyone online long enough knows people will say the sun is yellow and someone will argue that point and some might be rude about it.  We are not a community in the sense that everyone is our brother or sister.  I know I have bitched about how people treat people... many of us will at some point, but the facts of life are what they are.  People are people and online is what it is.  Now... when online, knowing people are people and online is what it is... say something in a post that is the opposite of what your profile says and you are going to get a mix of responses.

To fault us for finding a problem with the information we had to go on.. is rather off to me.  Consider that we did not know what he wasn't sharing until he was challenged and explained it to us.  Consider that we feel this could be a dangerous act and it might be best to go to a demo that was suggested.  Consider that many of us do our own research and take responsiblity for our actions and are not going to go against what we believe is true.

This whole situation got out of hand for a number of reasons... but first and formost was a guy who didn't give all the facts which led to confusion.  If I am going to post online I am going to think about what I am posting and what difference there might be in my profile that someone could pick apart and might invalidate my post or questions.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 12:01:19 PM   
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I have to ask you, Cdn, what would have been the issue with saying "I have a casual play partner?"  I do it all of the time.

Also, I want to know what is wrong with the respose in saying "I'd go to demos to get instruction?"  It's honest.  It's the way I think anyone hoping to learn about any form of what potentially could be defined as edge play should be researched.  There's no venom in that.  It's an opinion and an expression of the way I do things for Myself. 


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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 12:10:24 PM   
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CdnExplorer wrote: Are the details of his personal relationship any of our business? Why should he have to explain the nitty gritty of how his relationship works in order to ask a question?

The nitty gritty is none of our business.  However, when deciding whether it is worth spending time replying to a post, it is necessary to evaluate whether the OP appears to be genuine or just out for a cheap thrill.  In this case, the contradictions between the OP's request and the statements in his profile made him look suspect.  `My Mistress wants me to do research for her' is also a common sign of the wank fantasist.

So, he doesn't have to explain everything but it helps a whole lot if the things he does say are consistent with each other.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 12:20:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: beeble

The last thing he wants to do, is get his C&Balls out at a demo, or watch others do it from afar, feels totally different actually FEELING the sensations, the tension of the leather bind, sensation of slapping, nails scratching, flicking, wax the list is endless.

The suggestion was that his Mistress go to a demo to learn first-hand about how to do things and get taught physically, rather than with vague descriptions like `not too hard'.

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Well CBT in my opinion is an intimate activity, I can hardly see a stranger asking another stranger at a BDSM club to provide a CBT demo for them. I go to BDSM clubs in the UK and I see no CBT workshops, exposed genitalia is also a NO NO & is not allowed at many clubs anyway. So no sorry, dont agree


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This habit of referring folk to websites, really irriates me too, what the hell are these forums for??

They're for sharing information and discussing things.  However, if somebody has already written an excellent web page on a topic, why go to all the effort of writing it out again?  Why not just point people to the website for the information?  If there's something they don't understand about it, they can ask questions here.

And, by the way, the OP was more or less asking to be referred to a website so I guess you're irritated with him, too.
quote:

No he didnt, he asked for input, stop generalising now lol



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To share and guide, as I gladly like to do...

Well, go on, then.  In your profile, you say that you're an `expert' who `lives for' CBT so why don't you share your expertise instead of ranting about people who are too `lazy' to share theirs?

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Hello, memo feature!! I participate how, when & where I choose. I need not proove anything to you or anybody thankyou  . Do I detect a sense of hostility with your expert comment  lol tut tut  


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... not send them to google the lazy way out!

Asking somebody to use Google is lazy but asking somebody to tell you stuff without first looking on the web isn't?

quote:

Not really, he is a new member to the boards after all, thankgoodness some have a tad more humility. His op is really NOT not a big deal, like or not, seems to me a big of heckling going on regarding this op. Over n out


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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 12:28:03 PM   
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Venom is the perfect word for it thankyou  

I am in no way defending the actual poster of the op,  or defending the actual topic of this op, however, my opinion is moreso targetting the judgemental attitudes & replies that have a kind of "bandwagon" catalyst.


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ORIGINAL: CdnExplorer

Way to miss the point Beeble. What he, MistressRouge and I are complaining about are the people who ignored the fact that he was asking to be referred to quality resources, saw what they wanted to see instead of reality and started spewing venom all over the board. There was no "wankerism" involved, and anyone that believes that to be the case seriously needs to get their wank-dar retuned. When I joined the local community and started going to munches they nearly killed themselves trying to get me to ask questions like this one, so that we could have kink related discussions. If I acted the way some have here towards anyone in my kink community I would immediately be invited to leave and never come back. I'm not sure why people think being online gives them license to act that way.



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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 12:30:05 PM   
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I dont really get this reply Lockit, sorry


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Hi, I am Lockit, I am here to fulfill every man's sexual dream.  Yes.. I know, slutty, but you know, the poor guys must have their wank material and I am a domme and here and therefore I must curtail my interest, morals and belief's so that I can give them what they want.  I should never think that when they misrepresent themselves, I should say something about that.  No, I should either shut up and go away or fulfill what they ask of me and other's like me.  Even if they are new to the forums and ask about rape fantasy or experience or what I might do with the men in my life... it is expected that I share that with them or go away and not say anything about the situation.  I should enable what could be a sexual addiction because that is only fair and their right and use of the bdsm site so that they might get all they need because after all, aren't we all slutty and open our everything for just about anyone?  They are more important and they are in the right, there can be no other opinion or way of it.  They can lie but if I point that out... I am the bad guy... so here I am... bitch that I am... and slut I should be to tell them all that will get the lil rising fellow off.  Okay, slut that I am, email me... play games, lie to me and I will make all your dreams come true... because shutting up and calling a spade a spade is beyond what I can do... no... slut that I am and big mouth that I be... I am a wankers dream.

Crazy... you betcha and I know there could be argument on what I have said... sure of it... but you know... from everyone who has spoken up here in defense of someone just needing information and saying we are wrong to have an opinion and such... I haven't seen anyone actually give the man a detailed post on how he and his 'mistress' can safely or not, do what he asks.  So if you think it's on the up and up and you want to fight for rights here and defend anything... put up the information the guy wants!  Thread problem solved!  Easy...simple... done deal!


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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 12:34:08 PM   
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BINGO!

To add, this kind of spiralling heckling, may also deter others from posting other op's of interest.

Memo sent


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Oh I've read the email you guys get. My domme is on here, and when I'm visiting I watch her logging in here and getting an email every 10 to 15 seconds. However I can compare the two. The OP is in a long distance, realtime relationship with a Domme...you're quibbling over labels. I see my domme about once a month, sometimes a little more...but I'm not collared. Is she my mistress? Can I really call her "my domme"? Does it matter? The request was for resources that aren't full of crap...it's hard to find that stuff.

For example...in the next week or so I'm getting a chastity device, and I wanted to find some good information about how to deal with wearing one. Cleanliness, comfort and emotional / mental issues I might encounter. What happens when I do a search for that stuff? I get millions of "wanker hits". Unrealistic fantasy drivel about being locked up for years without release. If I came here and asked to be directed to something that is real and not authored by a wanker, would you treat me the same way? That's all the OP did.


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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 12:34:34 PM   
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CdnExplorer wrote:
Oh I've read the email you guys get. My domme is on here, and when I'm visiting I watch her logging in here and getting an email every 10 to 15 seconds. However I can compare the two. The OP is in a long distance, realtime relationship with a Domme...you're quibbling over labels. I see my domme about once a month, sometimes a little more...but I'm not collared. Is she my mistress? Can I really call her "my domme"? Does it matter?

No, it's not quibbling over labels.  It's about the apparent contradiction between an initial post that says `I have someone' and a profile that says `I'm looking for someone.'  If the OP had mentioned somewhere that he has an occasional Domme (using whatever term) but is looking for something more permanent, that would have resolved the apparent contradiction.

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For example...in the next week or so I'm getting a chastity device, and I wanted to find some good information about how to deal with wearing one. Cleanliness, comfort and emotional / mental issues I might encounter. What happens when I do a search for that stuff? I get millions of "wanker hits". Unrealistic fantasy drivel about being locked up for years without release. If I came here and asked to be directed to something that is real and not authored by a wanker, would you treat me the same way?

Probably not, no.

1. You're an established poster here, not somebody appearing out of the blue.  People know who you are and can reasonably evaluate whether you're genuine.

2. You'd presumably explain that you have an occasional Domme (using whatever terms you think best describe this) so your post wouldn't seem to contradict your profile.

3. You'd be asking things for yourself, rather than on your Domme's behalf.  After all, you're responsible for your own cleanliness, comfort and mental state.  On the other hand, CBT is a bunch of things done by the Domme to the sub so one would expect her to be doing the research.

4. Hygiene, comfort and emotional well-being don't sound like even potentially wanky topics.

This thread isn't the place to discuss chastity but, for the record, I've been kept in chastity for a year or so (not continuously, mind you) and, although I don't know any websites I could point you to, I'd be happy to answer questions if you start a thread.

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That's all the OP did.

No it isn't, as has been explained repeatedly.  The OP asked for potentially wanky information on behalf of somebody else in a context where he looked insincere.  You're considering asking for non-wanky-sounding information, for yourself with plenty of context that says you probably are sincere.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 12:45:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

I dont really get this reply Lockit, sorry


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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Hi, I am Lockit, I am here to fulfill every man's sexual dream.  Yes.. I know, slutty, but you know, the poor guys must have their wank material and I am a domme and here and therefore I must curtail my interest, morals and belief's so that I can give them what they want.  I should never think that when they misrepresent themselves, I should say something about that.  No, I should either shut up and go away or fulfill what they ask of me and other's like me.  Even if they are new to the forums and ask about rape fantasy or experience or what I might do with the men in my life... it is expected that I share that with them or go away and not say anything about the situation.  I should enable what could be a sexual addiction because that is only fair and their right and use of the bdsm site so that they might get all they need because after all, aren't we all slutty and open our everything for just about anyone?  They are more important and they are in the right, there can be no other opinion or way of it.  They can lie but if I point that out... I am the bad guy... so here I am... bitch that I am... and slut I should be to tell them all that will get the lil rising fellow off.  Okay, slut that I am, email me... play games, lie to me and I will make all your dreams come true... because shutting up and calling a spade a spade is beyond what I can do... no... slut that I am and big mouth that I be... I am a wankers dream.

Crazy... you betcha and I know there could be argument on what I have said... sure of it... but you know... from everyone who has spoken up here in defense of someone just needing information and saying we are wrong to have an opinion and such... I haven't seen anyone actually give the man a detailed post on how he and his 'mistress' can safely or not, do what he asks.  So if you think it's on the up and up and you want to fight for rights here and defend anything... put up the information the guy wants!  Thread problem solved!  Easy...simple... done deal!



It's called sarcasm... good or bad... whatever... still my sarcasm.

Then... I am simply saying that if everyone is so concerned that the guy wasn't treated right... maybe they should give him the detailed information he wants if they don't like the answers of demo's, google or all the other things that were suggested.  

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 12:46:44 PM   
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As mentioned in a previous post, most BDSM clubs do not allow exposed genitalia, so having sit and chat with someone about CBT, has no physical effects, doing is alot more beneficial hands on.

I in no way implied that anything is distasteful, clubs are great, but not for CBT

I agree with Lady Hibiscus the best way of learning new techniques is hands on, with my own subs, not reading a manual of someone else's TRUE DOMLY view or watch others do things their way.

There are some activities that are very helpful spectating and watching at clubs, CBT is not one of them.



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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

My first question back to this would be, exactly why would either of the things you mentioned be the last thing(s) he wanted to do?  You make it sound as though attending or participating in a demo would be distasteful to him.  How do you draw that conclusion? 

The next one I have is what demos are you attending that it's a "watching people do it from afar" scenario?  The last two presentations I did, I spent the remainder of the time doing personal instruction, for both tops and bottoms.  That includes one that the demo started at two in the afternoon and the play party didn't end until sometime around two in the morning.  I realize that's just My personal way of doing things and not every presenter takes on the same sense of responsibility for additional help, but I consider that part of the package.  Not only is it fun, but that was the point of doing the demo in the first place.  People learning whatever it is that I've been asked to present. 

I actually don't use the net to learn new types of play.  When I want to learn something, I find out who's giving instruction on it and I seek them out.  I see that differently than holding an open casting call on a message forum.  I don't do it through google, either.  I take the time and the effort to invest Myself in what I'm researching.

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I agree totally, what is the BIG deal here?

I for one, am saddened by the way many jump on the bandwagon of judgemental attitudes here, the op is simply asking for some CBT technique advice.

The last thing he wants to do, is get his C&Balls out at a demo, or watch others do it from afar, feels totally different actually FEELING the sensations, the tension of the leather bind, sensation of slapping, nails scratching, flicking, wax the list is endless.

Also, to analyse and dissect this poor guys motives is a tad unhelpful in my opinion, and I for one like to expand and share my knowledge especially regarding techniques that others seek. Not all posts are for wank fodder, even if it was no need to post or answer the op, just ignore and move on it it offends.

This habit of referring folk to websites, really irriates me too, what the hell are these forums for??

To share and guide, as I gladly like to do, not send them to google the lazy way out!

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 12:55:49 PM   
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And, by the way, the OP was more or less asking to be referred to a website so I guess you're irritated with him, too.
No he didnt, he asked for input, stop generalising now lol

Er, no.  He asked, `Is there a good resource for learning bondage techniques?'  OK, there are resources other than websites but he wasn't actually asking for detailed explanations.

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To share and guide, as I gladly like to do...
Well, go on, then.  In your profile, you say that you're an `expert' who `lives for' CBT so why don't you share your expertise instead of ranting about people who are too `lazy' to share theirs?
Hello, memo feature!! I participate how, when & where I choose. I need not proove anything to you or anybody thankyou  .

I think you can appreciate that it looks a little odd for somebody to be complaining that others have not provided information, when she does not seem to have provided any herself.  If you've done that privately, fair enough.

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Do I detect a sense of hostility with your expert comment  lol tut tut  

None whatsoever.

beeble.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 1:00:00 PM   
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I am not concerned, hey I dont even know this person.

However, I stand true to my view, whether people wish to be sarcastic or not, basically I would not judge/label this actual discussion/op as seeking wank material.

I get a load of wank material memos in my inbox, a simple read/delete/block is quite a useful feature, this has not reference to the op anyway, what you or I get in our inboxes here.

I also feel it is a very valid discussion, not as wank fodder or someone seeking wank material.

So what if his profile says seeking a Mistress, why disect and analyse it, this is only an online forum after all







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ORIGINAL: Lockit

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ORIGINAL: MistressRouge

I dont really get this reply Lockit, sorry


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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Hi, I am Lockit, I am here to fulfill every man's sexual dream.  Yes.. I know, slutty, but you know, the poor guys must have their wank material and I am a domme and here and therefore I must curtail my interest, morals and belief's so that I can give them what they want.  I should never think that when they misrepresent themselves, I should say something about that.  No, I should either shut up and go away or fulfill what they ask of me and other's like me.  Even if they are new to the forums and ask about rape fantasy or experience or what I might do with the men in my life... it is expected that I share that with them or go away and not say anything about the situation.  I should enable what could be a sexual addiction because that is only fair and their right and use of the bdsm site so that they might get all they need because after all, aren't we all slutty and open our everything for just about anyone?  They are more important and they are in the right, there can be no other opinion or way of it.  They can lie but if I point that out... I am the bad guy... so here I am... bitch that I am... and slut I should be to tell them all that will get the lil rising fellow off.  Okay, slut that I am, email me... play games, lie to me and I will make all your dreams come true... because shutting up and calling a spade a spade is beyond what I can do... no... slut that I am and big mouth that I be... I am a wankers dream.

Crazy... you betcha and I know there could be argument on what I have said... sure of it... but you know... from everyone who has spoken up here in defense of someone just needing information and saying we are wrong to have an opinion and such... I haven't seen anyone actually give the man a detailed post on how he and his 'mistress' can safely or not, do what he asks.  So if you think it's on the up and up and you want to fight for rights here and defend anything... put up the information the guy wants!  Thread problem solved!  Easy...simple... done deal!



It's called sarcasm... good or bad... whatever... still my sarcasm.

Then... I am simply saying that if everyone is so concerned that the guy wasn't treated right... maybe they should give him the detailed information he wants if they don't like the answers of demo's, google or all the other things that were suggested.  


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