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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 1:08:10 PM

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I will say no more on this matter, whether in black or red text

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Quoting: beeble in black; MistressRouge in red

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And, by the way, the OP was more or less asking to be referred to a website so I guess you're irritated with him, too.
No he didnt, he asked for input, stop generalising now lol

Er, no. He asked, `Is there a good resource for learning bondage techniques?' OK, there are resources other than websites but he wasn't actually asking for detailed explanations.

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To share and guide, as I gladly like to do...
Well, go on, then. In your profile, you say that you're an `expert' who `lives for' CBT so why don't you share your expertise instead of ranting about people who are too `lazy' to share theirs?
Hello, memo feature!! I participate how, when & where I choose. I need not proove anything to you or anybody thankyou .

I think you can appreciate that it looks a little odd for somebody to be complaining that others have not provided information, when she does not seem to have provided any herself. If you've done that privately, fair enough.

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Do I detect a sense of hostility with your expert comment lol tut tut

None whatsoever.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 1:17:26 PM

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I didn't consider it wank right off. I considered it deceptive which led to the thought of wank, which led to not respecting the situation at hand.

You may not judge... cool for you. I do sometimes. Unfair? Maybe... You speak your mind and I speak my mind and if we don't agree... cool. Not a big deal. We do things differently...

I stand by what I say and mean and if I can't consider deception or misrepresentation from someone wanting to discuss something with me and have an opinion and act on it... I have that right and if condemned for it... I want a last supper with some sexy server and about two hours to eat. (smile)

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 1:20:28 PM

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beeble wrote: In your profile, you say that you're an `expert' who `lives for' CBT
MistressRouge wrote: Do I detect a sense of hostility with your expert comment lol tut tut

It occurs to me that you might have thought that my quote marks indicated sarcasm or disbelief. They actually indicated that the text was a quotation but I'm sorry for any inadvertent offence.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 1:29:54 PM

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All i can say is WOW.

Can't W/we all just get along please. It is the holidays afterall folks.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 1:52:45 PM

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All i can say is WOW.

Can't W/we all just get along please. It is the holidays afterall folks.

You smell bad!!

My take on it is forums are here to share knowledge but it's up to whoever has the knowledge whether they disclose it, in a place where information that is used in the wrong hands can cause harm to others it's pretty natural to want to be more cautious about how and who you disclose it to.

There might also be better sources so don't just use what people say here anyway, you have to seek out other opinions from other places.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 3:56:16 PM

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This thread makes me sad.

It's a shame that someone can't come and ask for advice without being crucified. This is why I avoid ever starting a thread on this forum. I know there are oodles of wankers on CM, I've seen them, but for all the time people have wasted arguing over this issue could have been better spent offering advice. A simple link or two, the names of a couple of books (someone did suggest one, it sounded interesting and I might pick it up myself) or even online video demos.

The OP is a man, the OP isn't a "well known poster" and the OP didn't share every nitty gritty detail or worded something wrongly...and he gets five pages of flack and very little advice.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 4:34:28 PM

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Usako, if this thread makes you so sad, why didn't *you* offer any advice? I at least suggested a couple of books and the OP said he wasn't interested in buying things. That confirmed to me that he probably was a potential wanker.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 4:43:20 PM

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Usako, if this thread makes you so sad, why didn't *you* offer any advice? I at least suggested a couple of books and the OP said he wasn't interested in buying things. That confirmed to me that he probably was a potential wanker.

Because someone doesn't take your literature advice, that confirms they are a wanker?

Seriously, where do I begin there? So many places...

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 4:58:18 PM

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Usako, if this thread makes you so sad, why didn't *you* offer any advice? I at least suggested a couple of books and the OP said he wasn't interested in buying things. That confirmed to me that he probably was a potential wanker.

Because someone doesn't take your literature advice, that confirms they are a wanker?

Seriously, where do I begin there? So many places...

No, the fact that he didn't want to buy anything. There are lots of useful resources out there that aren't free, like the CBT class I took with Midori and the books that I've bought. I see no reason why I should give away to a complete stranger the techniques that I've paid to learn. If a man is interested in pleasing his mistress, assuming there is one, he's unlikely to balk at parting with a $20 bill, given that he'll be on the receiving end of the enjoyment. I suspected he might be a wanker from the beginning, his response and misleading profile/original post just encouraged me in that belief.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 5:00:45 PM

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Someone who doesn't want to google for free... doesn't want to buy anything, would sound to me like they wanted our stories or how to's. Which kind of leads one to think they want a personal touch if you know what I mean. Sincere or not... we are who we are and are online and we simply might be right or might make a mistake. But you have to consider... don't want to google... don't want to buy... mistress doesn't do it either... sends submissive play partner to find out from the other's dominant's... who could be safe or not... to post when he never has before... and we didn't know the whole story during our first postings... it all kind of adds up.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 5:10:58 PM

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Someone who doesn't want to google for free... doesn't want to buy anything, would sound to me like they wanted our stories or how to's. Which kind of leads one to think they want a personal touch if you know what I mean. Sincere or not... we are who we are and are online and we simply might be right or might make a mistake. But you have to consider... don't want to google... don't want to buy... mistress doesn't do it either... sends submissive play partner to find out from the other's dominant's... who could be safe or not... to post when he never has before... and we didn't know the whole story during our first postings... it all kind of adds up.

I see your point, but...I mean, isn't this a message board where people go to learn? Others might benefit form the experience of reading here, even if the OP IS a wanker.

I think personal accounts are invaluable in an online forum...because its like talking directly to the source. Who cares who asks the question.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 5:15:50 PM

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Yes, SI, this IS a place where people come to learn. That's why the SEARCH function is invaluable for finding the hundreds of posts that have gone before. (Where IS LA and her linkslist??) I already said that I don't write out edge play instructions, but there are all sorts of topics that have been covered over and over again. It's kind of like asking the person next to you for a phone number when you are sitting on the yellow pages.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 5:16:16 PM

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Maybe some of us just get a lil attitude when we think a wanker is playing with us to get off. Maybe if we inform all the wankers they will keep coming at us. Maybe people ought to invest a little into the things they want so much. Maybe we just like to fuck with lil trolls.. hehe (Not saying the op is a troll)

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 5:17:37 PM

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Usako, if this thread makes you so sad, why didn't *you* offer any advice? I at least suggested a couple of books and the OP said he wasn't interested in buying things. That confirmed to me that he probably was a potential wanker.

I don't have any, I'm a novice. I was hoping when this thread was posted people would offer the OP advice I could read but that didn't happen much. It just reconfirmed why I wouldn't want to post a question on CM.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 5:40:55 PM

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Yes, SI, this IS a place where people come to learn. That's why the SEARCH function is invaluable for finding the hundreds of posts that have gone before. (Where IS LA and her linkslist??) I already said that I don't write out edge play instructions, but there are all sorts of topics that have been covered over and over again. It's kind of like asking the person next to you for a phone number when you are sitting on the yellow pages.

The search function is good, but that wouldn't be too helpful if people in the past didn't answer posts.

As far as been there, done that...ummm...I think that's pretty much a given with most subjects by now on CM. Doesn't stop people on other threads from revisiting a subject.

And if all has been said and done...what does that say about the people who hang around in forums like this who offer nothing but scorn?

Is that all there is left to do now? Seems like a petty waste of time and energy to me by the big bad mistresses here.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 5:44:54 PM

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It's pretty obvious that we can't win with you, so it's a good thing we aren't trying!

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 5:50:28 PM

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Usako, if this thread makes you so sad, why didn't *you* offer any advice? I at least suggested a couple of books and the OP said he wasn't interested in buying things. That confirmed to me that he probably was a potential wanker.

I don't have any, I'm a novice. I was hoping when this thread was posted people would offer the OP advice I could read but that didn't happen much. It just reconfirmed why I wouldn't want to post a question on CM.

Exactly.

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 5:58:18 PM

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CBT Idea:
Wrap the cock and balls tightly in electrical tape (it helps to be clean shaven). Tease the person for 15 to 20 minutes or so. Then peel off the electrical tape.

The blood rushing back in will be a little like nipple clamps being removed after being left on for 20 minutes or so. Hurt so good!. Also the adhesive from the electrical tape when being peeled creates quiet a sensation also.....enjoy!

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 5:59:00 PM

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It's pretty obvious that we can't win with you, so it's a good thing we aren't trying!

Nice graceful cop out, Lady Hibiscus.

Anyway, everyone should probably keep in mind during all the finger pointing that there are a lot of trolls here who call themselves "Mistresses" too, and they have nothing better to do than bitch and snark...

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RE: CBT Techniques - 12/29/2008 6:03:38 PM

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http://www.collarchat.com/m_377903/mpage_1/key_cbt/tm.htm#378187

http://www.collarchat.com/m_452164/mpage_1/key_cbt/tm.htm#454409

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1165017/mpage_1/key_cbt/tm.htm#1165830 This one looks good

That took less than three minutes. There were many, many threads. Bottom line... we share when we want to and when the situation seems right to us. Go figure.

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