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RE: Looks and weight - 6/30/2009 5:23:58 PM   
SingleRarity


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Too much time and attention on looks, I get spending an hour getting ready for a serious evening but if I want to walk to the farmers market or go out to a cafe for coffee, 20 minutes ought to do it. Never gonna happen with a model. I want to share dessert, she won't even order one.


Not true Michael.  Most models are attractive w/o makeup so there's no need to throw it on  for every event.  Actually when a model goes to her go-sees (interviews with clients) she wears little or no makeup at all.  Hell, I signed with Elite at fourteen, and have had my makeup done professionally hundreds of time, yet for the life of me, I've never figured out what they're doing that takes longer than fifteen minutes!  In the modeling world heavy hair and makeup only happens at jobs. 

It seems to me that this issue would crop up more with women who consider themselves unattractive, so they  compensate by spending longer time on elaborate hair and makeup.

As for the food thing,  my thin friends eat dessert.  They just don't eat it all. Most thin women are not anorexic.

Daddy's Ballerina, e (I'm speaking of fashion modeling.  If you were writing about fetish or glamor models, then perhaps my experiences do not apply.)

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RE: Looks and weight - 6/30/2009 10:34:28 PM   
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Single Rarity, my best friend in High School is also a fashion model, though she didn't become one until after college. She's very smart, pretty low-maintenance, and isn't anorexic. I've done some Gothic/Industrial modelling - I did some live/runway gigs at a couple of clubs, had a photo of me used in a flyer for one club and in an ad for a vendor, and he also sold some postcards, magnets, and whatnot with pictures of me. I think of myself as cute, but the right photographer can give me the illusion of being exotic and elegant. Gothic/Industrial modelling does allow for a varied range of body types, though.

I usually can't have dessert when I go to a restaurant - it's not so much that I'm watching my weight. The portions tend to be way too big for me to eat in one meal, so I take leftovers home frequently. I've had dessert out once in a while - my Master and I stopped for chocolate yogurt for me and a shaved ice for him last weekend, and I'll occasionally get a sweet if I'm at a coffee shop, but there's just no room after a meal!

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ORIGINAL: Apocalypso
Speaking for myself, I've dated lasses with a reasonably wide range of body types etc. But the one common factor is that every single one of them was somebody who I liked the idea of seeing naked. Is that really not the case for some people?

I have to agree with you there - I've dated guys who ranged from a little shorter to over a foot taller than I am, with a wide range of body types, but I wouldn't go out with someone who I thought was ugly or unattractive. Pheremones/chemistry usually is more important than the exact details of looks or build, and there are plenty of people who are great eye candy who I'm not the slightest bit attracted to.

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RE: Looks and weight - 7/1/2009 3:02:53 PM   
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Yeah, I do find that I'm generally attracted to very tall, very muscular guys,but a lot of times there's just an energy about a person that draws me in. Given the choice between James Gandolfini or Brad Pitt, I'd choose Jimmy any day!

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RE: Looks and weight - 7/5/2009 7:57:10 PM   
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Looks get me there. Brains and a sharp wit keep me there.

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RE: Looks and weight - 7/6/2009 5:01:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Just like all women should find the 5'6", 130 pound guy hot and sexy, right?


sorry, have to jump on this a bit.

how tall a man is has fuck all to do with his testosterone levels or sexyness.  having a dig at a group of people who fall short of 6.0 ft as being less than desirable is almost as bad as slating a woman for being on the large side.  i say almost because arguably weight can be altered, height cant.

ive said this before, and ill say it again, but the men who fought in the first and second world war were, on average, around 5.7. 

the fact that people are getting taller is down to nutrition and arguably the taller a person is the worse it favours them healthwise.  so height doesnt mean that youre bigger better and healther or that you have any greater prowess as a man.

that really urkes me.

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RE: Looks and weight - 7/6/2009 5:52:47 AM   
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I am going back to the original question,
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i would like to ask you about weight and looks. How important is looks and weight for you?
What are you looking after,if any particular?
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A true Master seeks total submission, there is much beauty in a true submissive woman, so weight matters not, often a BBW is fare easier trained, easy to break in and rebuild, and looks, I see beauty in all females eyes,  when they suffer pain for a Masters pleasure, but there is no mention about AGE, it matters not to me, as the Master that I am, what a females age is either, my youngest sub at the moment is 22 years, I am just acquiring a 55 year old, and historically I have subs in the wings, not in regular training but I would add in their 60s.I have a nice little stable of 6 soon to be 7 regular women in training, and scores of past experiences, who are my true sub friends, never in my history have I lost a sub as a long term friend.
Back to the question...?
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"The stereotype" girl with long hair, small or not so big body and angelface how important is that?
How many of you would accept larger women? or opposite?
How much do you also look for the inside?
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There is no stereotype, I invite those asking questions to visit my Journal, read avidly and see how an English Master differs to all the rest.
My Journal followers in Canada and USA, need to know, I have visited historically Toronto and Calgary to do a little female training, and Orlando and Delray Beach on occassion, during the late 80s early 90s, I had a special New York female bank Manager, who needed my specific touch, however these days I can not bring my goodies into the states, too much hassle, but on occassion for the right sub who has prepared herself I will travel to the carribean islands to meet for sessions.
So my simple answer to the question originally asked is, if you are a woman, wishing to totally submit, are prepared to accept the treatment and training, have a fit and healthy mind, you are well beyond legal age, 20s onward, then you are an acceptable sub, you have the credentials.
Women who seek a Master for a husband, that is topping from the bottom, it will not work, a Master dictates your fate, wives make rediculous subs, and even worse slaves, all subs fall in love with their Masters, and that is as far,  as a good Master will permit, the status of the relationship, to be.

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RE: Looks and weight - 7/6/2009 6:03:15 AM   
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Reading the two proceeding and former posts, my pleasure, as a true Master, is derived from the submission of the woman, what her talkative eyes tell me, eyes really tell the truth.

Am I saying only eyes matter.??

So would I train a blind woman, yes I would, but with great care, this would be a lot of responsibilty for a Master, a lot of research would have to be conducted, not an easy task, and to date I have never known of a submissive blind woman, but it opens up new avenues for my ongoing research into the mysteries of this fraternity.

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RE: Looks and weight - 7/6/2009 5:32:08 PM   
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I want someone that is in the same category of looks and fitness as myself. Whatever that is. I cannot expect more from them then myself. I am fit and a pretty substantial part of my life is dedicated to health and fitness. I look for people that are like-minded in all that is me.

Dolf

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RE: Looks and weight - 7/7/2009 1:18:08 AM   
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my gawd, how uplifting this thread is.  That there are so many Dominants here who are open to larger women, of course, depending on how passionate these women are about their submissiveness, is nothing short of amazing.  i'm happily surprised by all the posts stating this and find this all very evolutionary, and tolerant, and so full of sensibilities about who a person is, rather so much on what the person might look like.
 
Not that anyone who has definite preferences is unevolutionary, or untolerant, or unfull of sensibilities. Having perferences is a human condition, and not one thing less.  It's just that so many are professing a preference for the "weight" between a submissive's ears, rather than so much of the "weight" on the bones.

Hurray for all of You.....
 
As for me, height and weight means nothing.  i look more for clarity and worth of a Dominant's character.  Looks are eventually going to fade, all of us are going to be in our 60s and beyond one day, i mean, gravity IS going to win, but good character lasts a lifetime.  i much prefer good humor, intelligence and even temperment over height/weight proportionate any day.  When i meet a Dominant i might be interested in my ears turn on instead of my eyes.  That isn't intentional, it just works that way.  i'm way more interested in what i hear, rather than what i see.....just works for me.    


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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

I'll ask a potentially pretentious question:
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has anyone bitching about how looks play into things taking the time to look into the word/term "memes" or "memetics"?

Odds are you look the way you do BECAUSE of them.



i looked up the meaning of these words, and this is what i found:
 
In his book The Selfish Gene (1976), the evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins used the term meme to describe a unit of human cultural transmission analogous to the gene, arguing that replication also happens in culture, albeit in a different sense. In his book, Dawkins contended that the meme is a unit of information residing in the brain and is the mutating replicator in human cultural evolution. It is a pattern that can influence its surroundings – that is, it has causal agency – and can propagate. This created great debate among sociologists, biologists, and scientists of other disciplines, because Dawkins himself did not provide a sufficient explanation of how the replication of units of information in the brain controls human behaviour and ultimately culture, since the principal topic of the book was genetics. Dawkins apparently did not intend to present a comprehensive theory of memetics in The Selfish Gene, but rather coined the term meme in a speculative spirit. Accordingly, the term "unit of information" came to be defined in different ways by many scientists.

Don't understand a single thing........now, i'm certainly not on the dumb side, i DO know my IQ and although i'm not in the genius range, i am right up there, but this whole concept is just a fuzzy image for me.  So, it didn't really resonate with me in any way.
 
i'm just saying..... 
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RE: Looks and weight - 7/7/2009 5:21:08 AM   
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A few questions...
What are boards that talk about weight going to do in America? I'm very American, no need to look it up.
MY answer- It WILL upset people that don't meet other people's standards. It hurts to have someone say you don't meet their requirements sometimes. Especially if it something you cannot help.

As long as a person has the ability to attract beauty and intelligence should they expect anything less than the total package they have the ability to obtain?
My answer- If every day, very attractive people, by my definition, look at me, hit on me, say nice things about the way I look, the range of topics I can speak to or as long as friends and business associates hold deep conversations with me because I maintain focus, perspective and give good feedback and as long as I can find people I feel are equal in all areas of concern to me, I would be setting US up for failure by involving myself with less than my potential.

Do I have to accept less than what I know is equal to myself?
My answer- I have no business having personal or intimate discussions with people that cannot keep up with the subjects that interest me. If health and attention to my physical attractiveness is important to me, I cannot accept someone where it means less to them. If I can attract women in the 8-10 category on the scale of 1-10 and a good number of those women are also cerebral I am failing to meet my full potential in selecting a balanced choice for a partner.

There are many people that will way overshoot their potential on both sides of the equation. If they get upset because they are not attracting those they go for then they should consider the standards they are trying to obtain. Good luck and be prepared for lots of disappointment if you do this. Some may get lucky, but few win the lottery.

If theory is going to come up, I think Darwin is a wise choice for discussion of why we choose who we do.


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