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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

Fast reply: loaning out my sub = yeeeeccch. Unsanitary!

For god's sake, this man is my personal sex toy. I don't loan out my vibrators or dildos to other women, either. Friends are friends but puh-freaking-lease--there are limits!

Whether I have the "right" or the "power" to do crazy-unsafe-swinger crap is irrelevant. I don't want the exposure to health risks AND emotional risks that goes with an extended network of sexual partners. I've seen the exponential risk chart that clocks your exposure to STD's as you add partners. It's creepy and squick-tastic.

I will never understand dominants who are turned on by making their submissive partner into the village bicycle, or some kind of cum-dumpster. Sure, great, you're all domly and in charge and you sure showed that sub who was boss. Now you're the proud owner of a festering pile of genital warts, lesions and AIDS! Hurray for you.

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247


BUT, and this is a mighty big BUT...also be aware that people can change and a Master may completely shift his view on a particular subject entirely...as a slave you must be prepared to handle that eventuality, not have the view of "well, i'm kickin' rocks!"

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ORIGINAL: susie

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247


BUT, and this is a mighty big BUT...also be aware that people can change and a Master may completely shift his view on a particular subject entirely...as a slave you must be prepared to handle that eventuality, not have the view of "well, i'm kickin' rocks!"

daddysprop247 I have shortened your post to highlight the above. I am aware of your relationship and the no limits lifestyle you have. As per your comment above that a Master may completely shift his view and if this happened you would not walk away. Can I ask what you would do in the circumstance that your Master suddenly decided he was no longer interested in the Master / slave relationship and wished it to continue on a purely vanilla basis. Would you still stay in the relationship under those conditions?

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut

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The more  I am out here the more I am continually reminded of the falseness of many of the assumptions that we make.  Is this really any different than finding people with any like interests? If you find pleasure in the outdoors then it would behoove you to find the person that enjoys camping and hiking.  Why is this really any different? I am continually baffled.

For me this is different because whilst Sir and i share a lot of interests and i enjoy doing many things for him, with him there are also things i loathe doing that i do as his slave. As a non-slave just his equal most of these things would recieve a hell no.
Not everyone gets mutual enjoyment all the time out of their relationships.
 

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

CP, I use 'you' because writing 'one' is cumbersome. But since I don't know you personally of course I wasn't referring to you personally but using 'you' to indicate a general you. I had assumed that would be understood since we were all talking about hypothetical relationships and not one specific one.

Edit to add: But my point still remains that if you general have the right to demand any extreme and unsafe act which you know is likely if not definite to cause trauma in your general s type, then you general had better be prepared to stand up to the plate. To provide the $20,000 a year anti- AIDS drugs cost. To pay for a mental hospital, and for several years afterwards as she tries to put her life back together. If you general do not want to do the time, then do not do the crime as the saying goes.

Basically be prepared that when you general say "what I say goes" you general must also realize that the buck stops there.

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

Fast reply: loaning out my sub = yeeeeccch. Unsanitary!

For god's sake, this man is my personal sex toy. I don't loan out my vibrators or dildos to other women, either. Friends are friends but puh-freaking-lease--there are limits!

Whether I have the "right" or the "power" to do crazy-unsafe-swinger crap is irrelevant. I don't want the exposure to health risks AND emotional risks that goes with an extended network of sexual partners. I've seen the exponential risk chart that clocks your exposure to STD's as you add partners. It's creepy and squick-tastic.

I will never understand dominants who are turned on by making their submissive partner into the village bicycle, or some kind of cum-dumpster. Sure, great, you're all domly and in charge and you sure showed that sub who was boss. Now you're the proud owner of a festering pile of genital warts, lesions and AIDS! Hurray for you.

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut

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The more  I am out here the more I am continually reminded of the falseness of many of the assumptions that we make.  Is this really any different than finding people with any like interests? If you find pleasure in the outdoors then it would behoove you to find the person that enjoys camping and hiking.  Why is this really any different? I am continually baffled.

For me this is different because whilst Sir and i share a lot of interests and i enjoy doing many things for him, with him there are also things i loathe doing that i do as his slave. As a non-slave just his equal most of these things would recieve a hell no.
Not everyone gets mutual enjoyment all the time out of their relationships.
 

ssshhh!! that is supposed to be top secret!

Aw crap sorry

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

...If you conclude the value of a sub based entirely that she must accept being "loaned" out..That is absurd. ...

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I believe that every one of these guys would do a complete 180 if they met the "right" woman.

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The more I am out here the more I am continually reminded of the falseness of many of the assumptions that we make. Is this really any different than finding people with any like interests?

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
... I can harness my cat to a plow but it would kill the cat and not get the field plowed and there is failure for all....

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut

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The more  I am out here the more I am continually reminded of the falseness of many of the assumptions that we make.  Is this really any different than finding people with any like interests? If you find pleasure in the outdoors then it would behoove you to find the person that enjoys camping and hiking.  Why is this really any different? I am continually baffled.

For me this is different because whilst Sir and i share a lot of interests and i enjoy doing many things for him, with him there are also things i loathe doing that i do as his slave. As a non-slave just his equal most of these things would recieve a hell no.
Not everyone gets mutual enjoyment all the time out of their relationships.
 

ssshhh!! that is supposed to be top secret!

Aw crap sorry
Some people will never ever get where you or i come from with our slavery.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

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ORIGINAL: InTonguesslut

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The more  I am out here the more I am continually reminded of the falseness of many of the assumptions that we make.  Is this really any different than finding people with any like interests? If you find pleasure in the outdoors then it would behoove you to find the person that enjoys camping and hiking.  Why is this really any different? I am continually baffled.

For me this is different because whilst Sir and i share a lot of interests and i enjoy doing many things for him, with him there are also things i loathe doing that i do as his slave. As a non-slave just his equal most of these things would recieve a hell no.
Not everyone gets mutual enjoyment all the time out of their relationships.
 

ssshhh!! that is supposed to be top secret!

Aw crap sorry
Some people will never ever get where you or i come from with our slavery.

thats just it ladies.  you have your definition of slavery.  yours to embrace and hold dear, to enjoy and revol in.  yet, again, i ask.. what if the man in your life commands you to kill someone close to you?  would you?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

i dont believe my question was that far out of the loop.  just as i know Master would never share me, yet, for the sake of discussion, i entertained the idea.  so, lets say he has asked you.  what happens to your slavery?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl



thats just it ladies.  you have your definition of slavery.  yours to embrace and hold dear, to enjoy and revol in.  yet, again, i ask.. what if the man in your life commands you to kill someone close to you?  would you?

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl



thats just it ladies.  you have your definition of slavery.  yours to embrace and hold dear, to enjoy and revol in.  yet, again, i ask.. what if the man in your life commands you to kill someone close to you?  would you?

first tazzygirl, besides the outrageousness of your question, it is one that has been asked approx. 389,477 times on this board alone, lol. it is ALWAYS asked whenever the subject of no-limits slavery or anything approaching such comes up. i have responded to it many times, you can find my responses by doing a quick search.

but i will tell you this now...commanding a slave to harm/injure/murder another person is completely outside of an Owner's bounds and rights. that is because an Owner has power and authority over THEIR property, not over every person walking the face of the earth. my Master has the right to do whatever he wills with me, to subject me to whatever, use me however...he does not have these rights over some person outside of the relationship. He has the right even to take my life...he does not have the rigth to take another's.

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl



thats just it ladies.  you have your definition of slavery.  yours to embrace and hold dear, to enjoy and revol in.  yet, again, i ask.. what if the man in your life commands you to kill someone close to you?  would you?

first tazzygirl, besides the outrageousness of your question, it is one that has been asked approx. 389,477 times on this board alone, lol. it is ALWAYS asked whenever the subject of no-limits slavery or anything approaching such comes up. i have responded to it many times, you can find my responses by doing a quick search.

but i will tell you this now...commanding a slave to harm/injure/murder another person is completely outside of an Owner's bounds and rights. that is because an Owner has power and authority over THEIR property, not over every person walking the face of the earth. my Master has the right to do whatever he wills with me, to subject me to whatever, use me however...he does not have these rights over some person outside of the relationship. He has the right even to take my life...he does not have the rigth to take another's.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl



ok. fair enough.  would you kill yourself while he watches?  would you rob a bank to support him?  would you move outside and live in a card board box while he lives in the comfort of his home?  no limit slaves fascinate me.  i would have thought one would have immediately said.. yes.. if he commanded it.