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ORIGINAL: Arpig

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Funny how people make generalizations about Christians out of ignorance.

OK Truthi, enlighten us. I have asked you to clarify if the OT rules still apply, and have been given evasive answers about the "Law being fulfilled", but no clear answer on if the various rules laid out in the OT still apply. What I want to know is the following...
1) Do the OT rules still apply, is what was forbidden still forbidden?

2) If the rules still apply, do the prescribed punishments still apply?

3) If the OT rules do not apply, then is bestiality still a sin, if so, on what scriptural grounds?

That will do for now. Can give clear unambigouous answers to these 3 questions?

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ORIGINAL: Truthiness

Actually, what I said is that it raises doubt as to if he's a true Christian, because it's hard to imagine followers of Jesus being so willing to murder in cold blood; with Jesus's life being about love, peace, and forgiveness.

That's an entirely different level than what you're arguing. It's not the same at all.

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ORIGINAL: Thadius
Too, the OT tells us that such laws would not be changed.  It could be argued however, that through translation, transliteration and various edits (whether intentional or not) the words and or context have changed for the modern readers. A good example is one of those pesky 10 commandments "thou shalt not kill" which was originally closer to "thou shalt not murder", it is a slight change but a significant one.  Murder refers to the lying in wait to kill in cold blood with no just cause (imagined causes are not justified).  One must also consider how the understanding of the law changed under the Pharisees, and various others attempting to control the populace (lay folks).

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Thadius
Too, the OT tells us that such laws would not be changed.  It could be argued however, that through translation, transliteration and various edits (whether intentional or not) the words and or context have changed for the modern readers. A good example is one of those pesky 10 commandments "thou shalt not kill" which was originally closer to "thou shalt not murder", it is a slight change but a significant one.  Murder refers to the lying in wait to kill in cold blood with no just cause (imagined causes are not justified).  One must also consider how the understanding of the law changed under the Pharisees, and various others attempting to control the populace (lay folks).

Christian apologetics by people who assume no one will ever ask a rabbi is the funniest stuff. The commandment against murder is very specific in Hebrew. It means killing another member of the person's community, not anything about lying in wait or stuff like that. It bans crimes of passion as well as premeditated killing. Jews have long taken it to include jews must not kill other jews.

If christians really carry forward as the inheritors of the jew's special relationship with god then they should reasonably view that commandment as christains shall not kill anyone in their community as well as not killing other christians.

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All of that being said, I did once read an interesting debate on whether Mosaic law applied to the Gentiles that were saved by their belief in the Christ. 

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Actually, what I said is that it raises doubt as to if he's a true Christian, because it's hard to imagine followers of Jesus being so willing to murder in cold blood; with Jesus's life being about love, peace, and forgiveness.

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And of course, once again, if you're saying we can't call into doubt that he may not be a Christian, then it is equally inaccurate for you to claim he is one...therefore proving my point with your argument that you shouldn't be calling him a Christian Terrorist.

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An American living in Asia decides he's fed up with China, and goes and blows up as many buildings/people in China as he can before he gets caught. The American government outright denies any knowledge or desire for that to happen, condemns his actions, and says "He wasn't acting on our behalf at all"

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

If this idea of the law not applying to gentiles is correct, then bestiality is not a sin for gentiles, since there is nothing about it in the NT.

That is the gist of what I was getting at, but Truthi has studiously avoided answering my questions. I believe he realises that to do so is either impossible to do using scriptural evidence, or he realises that to do so would destroy his idea of a true christian, since there clearly are none of those, at least by his definition of them.

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I am not sure who you are accusing of providing apologies for others... I know I am definitely not providing any or excusing such behavior.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Thadius
I am not sure who you are accusing of providing apologies for others... I know I am definitely not providing any or excusing such behavior.

I wrote apologetics not apologies and your original response is straight out of bad christian apologetics.

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I suppose the real question would be, who's job is it to judge whether one is a "real christian" or not.

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ORIGINAL: Truthiness

Actually, what I said is that it raises doubt as to if he's a true Christian, because it's hard to imagine followers of Jesus being so willing to murder in cold blood; with Jesus's life being about love, peace, and forgiveness.

That's an entirely different level than what you're arguing. It's not the same at all.