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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1


Your attitude got quite snotty, quite fast. Perhaps this is the reason you "connect" only with women who want your money as part of the deal.

Look at it this way. If you have something to offer that a woman cannot buy at any price, she will want to spend time with you, even if she is the one paying. What about you makes you amazing and sexy? What makes you special, remarkable, like no one else?

Whatever the answer is, I can tell you what it's not. It's not the lousy attitude in your journal entries. What you have written on your profile and journal is a textbook example of how to keep women farrrrr away from you.

There's a bazillion femdoms in Kansas City and St. Louis, by the way. There are events regularly advertised on Fetlife, and probably several other places.

You will get farther with women if you take personal responsibility for your lack of results, and remove the obstacles you are setting in your own path.

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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian

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ORIGINAL: lilboycaught

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Actually, the male dominants don't ask for money because they wouldn't get it.....period. Female dominant profiles asking for money exist because men will pay.

Male dominants exist even though there is no money involved.

See? Which begs the question, would female dominants even exist without money?

Which further begs yet another question: would a great deal of so-called "male dominance" out there evaporate without sex? Things to ponder.

To answer your overall question, OP, yes—dominant women do exist without money, just as they exist without whips or crops or canes. Money is a proxy, a tool and a medium through which dominance and submission can be expressed. It just so happens that for cultural and perhaps even biological reasons we tend to see financial exploitation of the female by a male as a bit of a faux pas.

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Women don't have any problem saying they're dominant. At least not any more. It's cool for a woman to be a "dominant" and has been for probably 20 years (there was a time when it would have been considered "un-ladylike"). On the other hand, to be a "submissive" male -- people still seem to kind of associate that with weakness. And they do this in spite of the fact the contemporary societal belief is that "submissive men are usually very powerful people in society." They would say those very words, yet still believe that a male being submissive to a female is weird, and probably a weakling

That's one of the things femdom needs to get past,

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ORIGINAL: lilboycaught
Thank god this discussion is finally turning half way intelligent.  Yesterday it was idiotic, with all kinds of people reading the title of the post while seemingly never reading the post itself.

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ORIGINAL: Michael3001

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

OP, you have my respect for sticking around.

I don't exactly understand your concept of femdom being the next "gay".  Are you saying that you had expected lots of media exposure for it?  If do, why would you care that it doesn't get media play?

Do you get some kind of personal benefit if femdom becomes considered more mainstream?

Great question DS. Yeah ill say he does. I think it's pretty clear he has an agenda to water down female power. Must be afraid of it.

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ORIGINAL: Michael3001

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

OP, you have my respect for sticking around.

I don't exactly understand your concept of femdom being the next "gay".  Are you saying that you had expected lots of media exposure for it?  If do, why would you care that it doesn't get media play?

Do you get some kind of personal benefit if femdom becomes considered more mainstream?

Great question DS. Yeah ill say he does. I think it's pretty clear he has an agenda to water down female power. Must be afraid of it.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: Michael3001

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

OP, you have my respect for sticking around.

I don't exactly understand your concept of femdom being the next "gay".  Are you saying that you had expected lots of media exposure for it?  If do, why would you care that it doesn't get media play?

Do you get some kind of personal benefit if femdom becomes considered more mainstream?

Great question DS. Yeah ill say he does. I think it's pretty clear he has an agenda to water down female power. Must be afraid of it.

I don't see that.  His response to me clarifies that it's not media exposure that matters to him as much as societal acceptance.  He does seem to have an agenda to have the femdom dynamic less driven by (or seen to be driven by) the pro Dommes, but I don't see that as watering down female power.
Oh, you're certainly right there. But don't you see? Male dominants exist even though there is no money involved.

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See? Which begs the question, would female dominants even exist without money?

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: Michael3001

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

OP, you have my respect for sticking around.

I don't exactly understand your concept of femdom being the next "gay".  Are you saying that you had expected lots of media exposure for it?  If do, why would you care that it doesn't get media play?

Do you get some kind of personal benefit if femdom becomes considered more mainstream?

Great question DS. Yeah ill say he does. I think it's pretty clear he has an agenda to water down female power. Must be afraid of it.

I don't see that.  His response to me clarifies that it's not media exposure that matters to him as much as societal acceptance.  He does seem to have an agenda to have the femdom dynamic less driven by (or seen to be driven by) the pro Dommes, but I don't see that as watering down female power.

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ORIGINAL: lameduck13

Okay I don't agree or disagree with anything written here as I did a search for local female dommes in my area 100 miles between the ages of 18-29 (thats my age range) I found 84 profiles, 3 havent been active in over 2 years 31 of them were asking for tribute, 26 of them were no longer accepting Subs and the last 16 have yet to answer my message, more than likely due to the fact that I did not include a picture of myself naked in the message (my guess is these profiles are perv in the closet gay men seeking naked photos to beat it to). that leaves me 8 profile of local people to talk to. I have been talking to these female dommes and it seams to me that they are attention seeking females who have zero experiance in D/s now If i broaden my horizons I could possible find older women who have experiance but I think its sort of odd for a 20 year old to be dominated by a 59 year old.  Now don't get me wrong I'm not looking for a LTR of a CPR (long term relationship/Casual Play relationship) I'm completely and sole interested in meeting like minded people in my area to share experiances with and get into the local BDSM scene out here. Yeah yeah go to a munch I know, I went to one near Dayton and it was older folks who were just as shocked to see me as i was to see them. Any suggestions? Feel free to Mesage me I more than likely won't check this thread again before it dies.

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ORIGINAL: Arillis

Note the hostility then caving in followed by arrogance unfounded assertion and hostility, its classic. You have valid points, a values system that should not be compromised and appears to be rooted in genuinely different beliefs. I do not endorse everything said on this board and support your difference and your right to view things differently.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Arillis

Note the hostility then caving in followed by arrogance unfounded assertion and hostility, its classic. You have valid points, a values system that should not be compromised and appears to be rooted in genuinely different beliefs. I do not endorse everything said on this board and support your difference and your right to view things differently.

Seriously, dude.  How do you walk straight with a chip that big on your shoulder?