quote:You need to turn in your shingle - she has been determined to be incompetent by professionals and declared so by a judge - at this point she is no longer legally deemed capable of consenting to an otherwise criminal act - I linked to this many pages ago, Criminal consent, there is no consent here, she is not legally capable of consenting.
If he weren't smashing ribs and busting her eyes and all that, do you really think any of this would be an issue?
The irony of drawing any line of consent at mutually-agreed bodily harm on a BDSM community site is almost too ridiculous to believe.
Agreed. This thread is the worst example of 'my kink is better/more valid/etc.' that I've seen in 2 years and nearly 3,000 posts on this site. I remain astonished at the presumption of some as well as the judgmental attitudes toward ADULTS DOING WHAT THEY WANT IN THE PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN HOMES!!!
To the psychological argument, I've devoted many years and many more thousands of dollars to the study of it. I have numerous state-approved letters after my name and all that happy mess and some really, really cogent points that select folks seem to be missing are that:
**A diagnosis is not generally rendered without there being an impairment of fuctioning/disruption to one's life/etc. Ergo, if someone is happy in their relationship and they're functioning within their life roles, it's probably not a diagnosable issue.
**It's really freain' difficult to have a person declared legally incompetent. And, it's not something that once done can not be undone.
**Typically, kicking the victim is frowned upon yet some people have dubbed a particular individual a victim and have then sought to lambaste her into submission...abuse, anyone?!
There are more points than those, psychologically speaking, but this thread is a fantastic reason why I'm me, I don't profess to be part of a 'community' or a 'lifestyle' or whatever because I don't generally enjoy the holier-than-thou theatrics that such designations often breed.
Kink? This isn't tattooing, cutting, piercing, or even branding - people do that all the time, it's permanent and yes, there are risks, infection etc., and if in fact the person performing the procedure is not taking the proper precautions they can and are prosecuted, it's called criminal negligence.
Here there isn't even any negligence, this isn't a scene gone South, he's just flat out beating the shit out of, badly enought to require hospitalization, a person whose interests the court has appointed him to protect, and has apparently been doing this since she was 13.
Even informally, this begs the question of calling it consensual - she doesn't know anything else, she's never had a choice.
But the bottom line is, my opinion, your opinion, anybody's opinion about whether or not it's consensual is moot - it's already been legally established that it cannot be, it's not a kink, she doesn't even claim it's a kink, "kink" is fuzzy-wuzzy feew good word to her, and she's right, it's not a kink, it's a crime - by any standards.
So we are not allowed to question criminal behavior? I'm not "invalidating her kink", I'm calling it a crime, and it is - legally, I'm calling it abuse and it is, by legal definition - that's the way it is on this planet, we draw lines, get used to it.
Holier than thou? Look in the mirror.
And as far as that goes, is SSC not a lifestyle? You great defenders of the abuse of others don't appear to very shy about mocking people with common sense, do you? Fortunately for the mods, I don't play that shit, or I could report every one of her posts and half yours.
In the grand scheme of things, people get abused, turn over a fucking rock, but I do not have to respect it, or pretend to respect it.
Your wildly emotional tirades are tiresome.
I don't care what you think of my credentials, they are real and tangible. Your links fail to impress; any yahoo who can google can pull links. Understanding them contextually and applyng knowledge appropriately, now that is another story.
If you have a concern for a particular person, cmail them: what some people --you included-- are doing toward another user and her relationship is abusive. The lady clearly and cogently is able to discuss her life in a way that does not scream victim; stop trying to bully her. It's disrespectful on so many different levels.
And, I never mentioned SSC; in fact, I think that concept is antiquated.
Try again. Actually, I'd rather you not; you just keep raging in the same fashion.
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Jesus,I've ALWAYS been a deviant