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no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 4:26:14 PM

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Why does it seem that the majority of dom's make the "1st meeting "
with a sub girl and want her to show up with no bra, no panties?
I sense red flags when I hear this,

Do Dom Ladies order sub boys to show up commando ?

Do You ? Would you require it ? please explain, Why ?

RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 4:59:09 PM

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I wouldn't even consider it.

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 4:59:55 PM

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I like to be able to get a degree of control, even at the first meeting. Of course, if she complies, she will feel more submissive toward me.

And there is just something hot about a woman with no underwear.

As you allude, there is also the wank factor.

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 5:52:16 PM

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Because walking up behind her and reaching up under that skirt is just so damn hot, that's why!

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 5:59:45 PM

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I agree with DarkSteven. I believe it is a control issue. The Dom wants to see how submissive you are and whether you are willing to comply. I believe the problem would stand if you would assert youself and say that was to make you uncomfortable and the Dom would push the issue. I believe that would be the point the point of red flags. And if the Dom has a problem with your uncomfortability, then sorry you are not compatible.

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 6:00:09 PM

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When I was still meeting Doms, the minute they would mention such things I would automatically turn down the meeting. It said they only had one intention with meeting me and it wasn't to get to know me.

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 6:53:50 PM

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When I was still meeting Doms, the minute they would mention such things I would automatically turn down the meeting. It said they only had one intention with meeting me and it wasn't to get to know me.

This exactly.

As someone who was looking for a LTR partner I treated the first meeting like any other first date. A way to get to know the other person, as a person - to talk about work, family, hobbies etc.

What it really boils down to is whether or not you want to be with a man who wants a woman to wear no underwear on a first date. Does this man share your moral and social standards? If not, it's just incompatibility. To me the term "red flag" is a warning that the person might be dangerous, not that he wants to get laid. A lot of guys want to get laid, I held out for the guys who would only consider girls who *didn't* sleep with them from the start.

Nothing wrong with either way, but if it doesn't match your personal preference just pass them by.

ETA - if a guy wants to 'test' a woman's submissive nature he can say "wear your hair in a ponytail" or "paint your nails red" it doesn't have to be something overtly sexual like "don't wear any underwear."

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 7:20:36 PM

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no bra, no panties?

No bra, no panties, no profile

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 7:36:24 PM

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Why does it seem that the majority of dom's make the "1st meeting "
with a sub girl and want her to show up with no bra, no panties?

Hello swaybackgirl. The ''majority'' of ''doms'' just wants you to show up. Either it is a red flag or it is crossed signals. If your first meeting is at a church function and you are asked to be in slut mode, one could see this as being fantasy driven (could be hot though!).

It is all about expectations and first impressions. If you went ''cyber'' for sometime before meeting and you had a little dom/sub thingie going, it could also be an honest mistake. If the dom is simply continuing (in his mind) in the ''real'' world what was going on in cyberspace, it could be inexperience.

What about subs that say they hate the vanilla lifestyle but expect that you both ''act'' like ''vanillas'' at the first meeting? Acting ''vanilla'' when you are not is called play (that can be hot also!). As I said, it is mostly crossed signals that fuck things up when you do not really know someone or what is really going on.

Of course it ''seem's'' that the dom is always responsible for first meeting ''faux pas'' and the sub seems to be the the one with the score cards in the etiquette game. But I am sure it only seems that way and that in reality most people know how to act when given proper context. RL.

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 7:45:21 PM

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They want to know how far you will go and how fast you will get there. Then they know whether or not to demand a blow job at the end of your meeting. If you act like you have any common sense, they will drop you like a bad habit and move on to the next girl.

On the bright side, there are a lot of guys out there, who will get to know you first, before trying to establish a relationship. Those are the ones I would concentrate on.

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 8:36:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: swaybackgirl

Why does it seem that the majority of dom's make the "1st meeting "
with a sub girl and want her to show up with no bra, no panties?
I sense red flags when I hear this,

Do Dom Ladies order sub boys to show up commando ?

Do You ? Would you require it ? please explain, Why ?

No. Just no. I do not ask potential subs to do such things until they have agreed to submit. I only require them to act politely and to dress correctly. No undergarmets are not acceptable in Starbucks.

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 8:40:15 PM

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It's no fun, and quite a spectacle, when one of us stacked broads goes out without a bra fer cryin' out loud. We give ourselves nosebleeds!

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 9:05:57 PM

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OKthen for the record you've enterd the inersanctum of carnality in our society anything and everything you've seen on the monday night movie has or will happen or at least be actively/regularly excersised in the minds of those in attendance here.
Think of all the odd wierd inapropriate experiences you've had in the "vanilla" world if you actually believe there is such a thing in any quantity and add the carnal sexual drive component to it and here you are.
Keep your wits about you and think and behave as a selfreliant adult should and you'll be able to answer all these type of questions for youself in the future. Good Luck it's a big scary world out there my dear. Riptied

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 9:16:10 PM

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It's no fun, and quite a spectacle, when one of us stacked broads goes out without a bra fer cryin' out loud. We give ourselves nosebleeds!

Or, if we have to run more than 10 feet, black eyes!

ETA- typo

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 9:30:37 PM

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I happen to like bras and panties. I am a new Dom, but I like very feminine women, and I like lingerie. I might consider telling a sub a specific style of panties to wear (I have my favorites), but not to show up without them. Clothes communicate a lot about a person's attitude and their sexuality. I also like removing the bra and panties, or watch as she removes them. It heightens the anticipation and prolongs the act of undressing.

As to asking for this on a first meeting: I doubt I would do that. I think it would depend on the sub's desires, and I think I would try to find out what that might be first. Is she the type who is ready and willing to jump full in? Don't know if I'd find a sub like that. I am certainly not talking from experience here, but it seems to me that I am not going to enjoy encounters much unless her fantasies/desires are fulfilled in the process. Maybe I am naive, but that seems to me what makes this lifestyle so exciting is that two people who are in some ways opposites can get together, and although the appearance is that one is abusing the other, in reality they are meeting each other's needs.

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 9:35:44 PM

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I wait until at least the third date to get that wierd.

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 9:35:45 PM

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It's no fun, and quite a spectacle, when one of us stacked broads goes out without a bra fer cryin' out loud. We give ourselves nosebleeds!

Or, if we have to run more than 10 feet, black eyes!
ETA- typo

Your hard limits include no nosebleeds, no black eyes? Just what the heck kind of submissives are you two?

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 9:52:18 PM

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Your hard limits include no nosebleeds, no black eyes? Just what the heck kind of submissives are you two?

I hard limit face slapping, too. I knew it, I'm not a twue submissive!

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 10:09:01 PM

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Well, in your case, Wyld, no bra would equal face slapping.

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RE: no bra, no panties ! - 3/19/2010 10:14:02 PM

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Well, in your case, Wyld, no bra would equal face slapping.

Quoted for truth

On a more serious note, whether I would do the "no undies" thing on first meet would depend on how well and how long I had known the Dom online/ phone. That said, 99.5% of the time, it would be a "hell no" kind of thing and would result in my canceling the meet.

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