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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 3:19:27 AM

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Nah, no speaking in tongues-the Kevster is just kinda...challenged...when it comes to financial calculations.

I think you are not giving him enough credit. He seems to understand the market well, and most of you pros would do well to pay attention.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 3:26:04 AM

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*sighs* kevin, kevin, my dear kevin....i said before- i'm making it very clear so try to understand: there are plenty of lifestyle Dommes out there.

It seems to me that all females here who are not pros are lifestyle. Most of the pros are young and most of the lifestyle are "mature". I guess that means the older gals are trying to snag a sucker while they still can -- and then hold onto him with whips and chains so he can't run away. Of course there are those who will tell me they are exceptions, however anecdotal cases don't prove very much.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 3:43:48 AM

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Nah, no speaking in tongues-the Kevster is just kinda...challenged...when it comes to financial calculations.

I think you are not giving him enough credit. He seems to understand the market well, and most of you pros would do well to pay attention.

1) I am not a pro, so less of this 'you pros' nonsense.

2) Go back and read the OP; the question about rates arose because a sub told MissA that he thought she was charging too much, not because she is unhappy with the level of business she attracts.

From what I understand, she is asking what the standard going rate is for a ProDomme's time. She is not asking for advice on how to attract more clients. She is not asking what Kevin's opinion of what the going rate should be is. She's enquiring as to the current situation among professionals of her status, not your fevered imaginings of how her prices will have to drop if she gets undercut by third world girls.

So really, Kevin is being his usual hijacker self and diverting the topic. I engaged him. That was stupid, and I'm not going to continue any further.

OP: sorry for the derailing.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 3:46:59 AM

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been in a situation recently that has got me wondering(not second guessing- just wondering)- are my rates for ProDomme sessions too high? i'm entering my 3rd year of the art of domination and for certain things, i charge a certain amount. feet- $75/hour, oral on me-$100, strap on- $150/hour, the list goes on, and for combinations of things i combine the prices and take like 15 dollars off. keeping that in mind, a wanna-be client told me that i was charging way too much and he kind find prettier girls for less(that made me laugh to be honest), and tried to hound/pressure me into dropping the price for strap on and to give me oral to 100 for both. so for those who have dabble in ProDomme(ones who are pro and ones who have gone to a pro) what do you think? was he just trying to get his fantasy off for cheap or am i being to pricey?

You are a cutie doll, but I find it hard to believe that men would pay much to be dominated by you. Let's face it -- you are too sweet and young too have enough life experiences to understand how to dominate men. My guess is that most women under the age of 25 that call themselves pro dommes are just high priced call girls -- not that there is anything wrong with that.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 4:23:00 AM

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thanks for the undercutting compliment. ylou seriously are not aware of my abilities...are you? and seriously, unless i was like 12 or something(random number, i know thats illegal lol)age has absolutely nothing to do with anything. so if a woman 31, but has just come into her own in other sexual aspects, including BDSM, you would be more inclined to believe she is a legit prodomme more than somebody who is my age? funny.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 4:33:25 AM

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in addition, i will not listen to kevin with his logic of doing nearly 4 times the work for less than half then i charge now.monetary factor aside- I WOULD BE BURNED OUT. i love painting, its part of my professional as well for personal enrichment, but if i am working long grueling hours with very limited basic materials that i need and always use, my interest is likely to drop. it would beome mentally taxing, same with doing so many more sessions. i'm not THAT financially focused where i'm going to let my personal life and my sanity fall by the wayside just to do nearly 4 TIMES THE WORK JUST TO MAKE UP FOR THE MONEY I HAD LOST- which was my point when responding to kevin's post.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 4:37:59 AM

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Does anyone else here think azjojoba and Kevin are the same person? I think Az is Kevin's medicated, though much more inflammatory, version of himself.

Nevada has seen a net increase in the use of prostitution services in the counties that allow it. Ontario has seen about the same increase. Not because the brothels or women are lowering their prices but because no strings erotic situations are a great way to relieve depression and is still often cheaper than therapy.

So those guys can go on thinking that prices on such things need to be lowered but the reality is that, just like in the 1930's, alcohol and sex make people feel better about a shitty economy.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 6:56:52 AM

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Does anyone else here think azjojoba and Kevin are the same person? I think Az is Kevin's medicated, though much more inflammatory, version of himself.

Nevada has seen a net increase in the use of prostitution services in the counties that allow it. Ontario has seen about the same increase. Not because the brothels or women are lowering their prices but because no strings erotic situations are a great way to relieve depression and is still often cheaper than therapy.

So those guys can go on thinking that prices on such things need to be lowered but the reality is that, just like in the 1930's, alcohol and sex make people feel better about a shitty economy.

boi

Exactly...I was going to bring up the fact that historically the sex industry enjoys a booming business in times of financial stress and then I saw BoiJen had done it for me. I'm not sure why kevin and azjojoba seem to think Dommes are suffering for business...seems quite the opposite really. When you are in demand you can charge more or less whatever the going rate is, not what your customers would prefer. There is no reason for Dommes to lower their rates if they are doing perfectly well and it's stupid to think of doing more work for less money if you don't have to. It all depends on who holds the cards, seems to me that the Dommes hold the cards here.

If all these young, nubile immigrants flood the market perhaps it would drive the price down for Domme services but it doesn't seem to have happened at this point. The Dommes I am aquainted with, and the anecdotal evidence from these boards seem to suggest Dommes are doing just fine right now in today's financial climate and they don't have to lower their prices to get business. Disgruntled men can complain all they like about the cost being too high, but if others are willing to pay it then it's business as usual. I'd like to eat out on gourmet food every day myself but I can't afford it. Some people can pay for that certain luxury, I cannot...oh well...that's life. There aren't any charities that will give me the quality of food that I want and the restaurants themselves won't give me free or reduced price food either...woe is me. Life is unfair...sob.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 7:23:43 AM

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I'm not sure why kevin and azjojoba seem to think Dommes are suffering for business...seems quite the opposite really.

I don't think they actually believe that, but it's pretty clear they're both hoping and praying for that to come true because then some will be desperate enough to take them on as clients.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 7:44:41 AM

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Nah, no speaking in tongues-the Kevster is just kinda...challenged...when it comes to financial calculations.

I think you are not giving him enough credit. He seems to understand the market well, and most of you pros would do well to pay attention.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 8:07:52 AM

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Do you know enough to make an assessment on the economy? You don't seem to understand the basic cause and effect, how business is done during an economic crisis, marketing or the asymmetric dominance effect. So while your advice may make sense to you it does not for those of us who own and run businesses vanilla or otherwise. I think you have an opinion and are entitled to it, however I do not think you are qualified to give advice on running a successful business.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 8:09:05 AM

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I'm not sure why kevin and azjojoba seem to think Dommes are suffering for business...seems quite the opposite really.

I don't think they actually believe that, but it's pretty clear they're both hoping and praying for that to come true because then some will be desperate enough to take them on as clients.

~stef

seems to be that way my dear.

I'm not suffering at all...I wonder what gave that impression...

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 8:13:40 AM

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Do you know enough to make an assessment on the economy? You don't seem to understand the basic cause and effect, how business is done during an economic crisis, marketing or the asymmetric dominance effect. So while your advice may make sense to you it does not for those of us who own and run businesses vanilla or otherwise. I think you have an opinion and are entitled to it, however I do not think you are qualified to give advice on running a successful business.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 8:29:22 AM

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Umm, if you two guys understand the market so well, then why are there so many pro-Dommes still charging and getting high rates? They *want* to market themselves to the expensive end of the market, since they do much better than by selling based on volume that way. Basic micro-economics - there isn't much supply, and there isn't a whole lot of demand compared to the general population either. If they raised their rates below a certain point, they would either not get any more customers, or would run out of time (which is what they are selling). They don't want clients who are poor and jobless, they want the rich or at least upper-middle-class ones who are still managing to thrive in the current economy.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 8:34:44 AM

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they are really acting like i'm charging out the ass or something.

Go figure.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 11:14:25 AM

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Balderdash. Our free market economy is in the stink now because of people getting too choosy , too pricey and pretty much too greedy. The only way forward is lower wages and higher productivity at least in the short term. Yes i know a bit of pain. But long term if prices come down, people will start to spend and the economy will take off again. Whence that happens people can start demanding extra to meet the extra cost . But at the moment im sorry but $75 is way too much for a session when millions world wide dont have a pay packet and when there is no justification for such a price tag. And im sorry but if BDSM equipment is still very expensive then they must take their prices down too. It is the only way the economy will recover.
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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 11:16:12 AM

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im entitled to my opinion. As far as i can see most business owners dont know their arse from the hole in the ground and certainly dont know how to manage businesses responsibly . if they did , millions world wide would not be currently jobless
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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 11:17:14 AM

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like you kevin?

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 11:20:18 AM

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if you love painting so much do it full time. Most of us dont have such luxuries. You want your cake and eat it. You need to get a reality check young Woman, and not a cash check. If you get $75 per hour for your session, more fool the men for giving it to You
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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 11:23:00 AM

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And a woman is like Gourmet food. Please. Most of the women on this site are pretty ordinary joes. I wouldnt pay any of them more than $40 in an hour session. i d rather shove the $75 down the loo than give it to an extortionate Domme
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