RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate?

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/18/2010 11:34:07 AM

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and i'm very curious kevin- did you even bother to do any math when you said $15-$30 should be my price range? even i charged 30 dollars, i'd be making 60% less of what i do now(30 is 40% of 75). so if i went for the mid-point of 15 and 30, thats $22.50- which is only 30% of what i make, leaving me short $52.50. so yes, you'd be right, my client base would rise, but when would i have time to breathe? just thought i'd make note of that.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/18/2010 12:00:52 PM

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just thought i'd make note of that.

Heads up, Miss Asylum: Not sure if you've been around long enough to meet the delightful Kevin, but he surfaces every time there is a Pro/FinDomme debate (and tries to bring all sorts of other threads around to that topic too).

Basically, he's unemployed and can't afford a ProDomme's rates. He thinks that all Dommes in general should 'lower their standards' (and I quote him there, although I don't have the energy to find the quote itself) if they want/expect a sub of a certain financial status.

He doesn't really listen if you argue with him. I'm not sure it's worth it.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/18/2010 12:21:36 PM

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Well how do you think others are faring out? You dont have a divine right to cash no more than millions world wide have a divine right to a job. There are people struggling on a lot less. So why should you be any different? You would get more clients and more money if you dropped your rates. Do the maths. Say You charge $75 a session, you might get one client but if the price was $30 you might find yourself getting four. Thats a 30% increase on your turnover, roughly, $120 instead of a mere $75. You see Ma'am its like everything else people would spend if they were to get any VALUE. Unfortunately there is no value out there, people have been ripped off for years,, are still getting ripped off and are frankly sick of it. They are voting with their pocket, they are not spending and hence the economy is fucked up because there are too many rip off merchants out there across the board. An alternative pricing to $75 an hour and more realistic to today's economy would be
$25 for 1 hour session
$50 for 2 hours
$80 for 3 hours
$120 for 4 hours
$200 for 5 hours
$250 for 6 hours
Overnight (12 hours) $800
That way i think You would definitely get clients. Things are getting cheaper in this recession too, the essentials, food, electricity, etc are at any rate. Bottom line there is no justification for the prices that not only You but other pro Dommes charge currently. It is pure greed and is the reason why we are in the shit in the first place. Subs may be submissive but they are not stupid. Only the wealthiest or the most stupid will go to a pro Domme currently. Just my two cent. You can reject this view
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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/18/2010 12:22:23 PM

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well my dear, but i've been on this site since january of last year, and i do believe i havent had the please of encountering kevin before today. thank you for the heads up toots. i do so wish i had a dime for every instance i have heard an unemployed whinny sub complain of prices. key word- unemployed. like i've said SO many times- there are plenty of lifestyle dommes, go find one.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/18/2010 12:42:20 PM

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*sighs* kevin, kevin, my dear kevin....i said before- i'm making it very clear so try to understand: there are plenty of lifestyle Dommes out there. Go Find One. And I also had said at the end of my response, "when would i have time to breathe?" the fact that you can add doesn't matter to me, for you seem to lack common sense. I would have to see almost 4 people in one night to make up for just one to make the same amount of money. unlike you, i have a life thay includes family, school, friends...the list goes on. where would i have time to do anything else if i were to decrease my prices by more than half to feed the needs of people like you? seriously, by the way you are going off at the mouth, i doubt you would be a person to pay 800 for an overnight stay as you mentioned(not that i even would allow that). so tough cookies to you hun.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/18/2010 2:09:26 PM

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i wouldnt because i couldnt afford it right now, im just using it as an example. if prices were lower people would buy and spend more money and everyone wins in that case. the bottom line is this, leaving me out of it, the bottom line is this, people , excepting those at entry level jobs, are being paid way too much for their services, those that are lucky to have jobs that is, and consequently people are not going to professionals as a result with the impact on economic activity as a result. For example i need my eyes tested but if i do they will charge me $140 for the privilege, no way on God's earth am i going to have my eyes tested for that amount of money, but if the price was lower i would go. Equally $800 for overnight is much more reasonable than the $2000 quoted by some Dommes
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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/18/2010 2:11:47 PM

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And by the way darling its You that cant add. 4 clients $30 each = 120 dollars, one client $75 = $75 dollars. Anyone with primary grade maths knows which is the higher. Bottom line You would benefit by charging less but You refuse to see this or think of the bigger picture. And unfortunately you are not the only one. Hence the shit we are in
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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/18/2010 2:54:44 PM

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hence- you dont use common sense. dont blame prodommes for the economy. we dont have that much pull. like i said, i would have to see more people just to make up for the lost wages, and therefore, having really NO time for myself. if you dont have the money to see a ProDomme- FIND A LIFESTYLE DOMME WHO DOES NOT CHARGE FOR HER TIME.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/18/2010 3:34:11 PM

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And by the way darling its You that cant add. 4 clients $30 each = 120 dollars, one client $75 = $75 dollars. Anyone with primary grade maths knows which is the higher. Bottom line You would benefit by charging less but You refuse to see this or think of the bigger picture. And unfortunately you are not the only one. Hence the shit we are in
kevin

But 4 clients $30 each=4 hours work. 1 client, $75=1 hour work. She's doing four times the work for less than twice the value. You call that benefit?

It's not like dropping the price of a product in a shop, where the added work of selling two products over one is minimal-selling twice the hours as a Pro means *working* twice the hours for less money than she would get working one hour at her current rate...

(I know, I know, don't engage Mr Lobotomised-what can I say? Sloppy cost/benefit analysis makes me sad.)

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/18/2010 3:41:51 PM

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i know, i tried to listen to you- but the urge was too strong. lol. but i'm glad i wasnt talking in tounges or something, which was the impression i was getting.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/18/2010 3:50:03 PM

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For example i need my eyes tested but if i do they will charge me $140 for the privilege, no way on God's earth am i going to have my eyes tested for that amount of money, but if the price was lower i would go.
kevin

B/s Kevin, an eye test in Dublin costs more like £30 than £140.

Why dont you just admit you want a free session, because you dont like the idea of paying for one. ?

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/18/2010 3:57:40 PM

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i know, i tried to listen to you- but the urge was too strong. lol. but i'm glad i wasnt talking in tounges or something, which was the impression i was getting.

Nah, no speaking in tongues-the Kevster is just kinda...challenged...when it comes to financial calculations.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/18/2010 4:00:57 PM

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BTW, if the price does every reach £15....... Can someone call me.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/18/2010 9:03:31 PM

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Many things factor in. Location, your rep, and how good looking you are all count. There have been a few pros in Manhattan who have appeared in Playboy and Penthouse. They can get five hundred to a grand an hour. An overweight, average looking woman in Iowa might only be able to command a hundred.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 1:07:43 AM

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If it s a job you enjoy then why should nt a Domme work four times the hours for less than twice the benefit. Thats the problem with this economy. Productivity. People should work harder for less. Wages need to come down. That does not mean people earn less. They just work more and consequently gain more, ie instead of working one hour for $75 they work three for $90 or four for $120. If its a job you dont enjoy, dont do it. If a Domme is complaining about working hours , She should not be doing it
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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 1:09:56 AM

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No matter how good the Domme is I wont pay more than $40 for an hour session. $500 is extortion. But then maybe thats why i dont go to see Dommes. Some subbies obviously have more money than sense. Only my opinion
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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 2:57:40 AM

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Well I think that is a fine decision there Kevin. Yes, I do.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 3:16:18 AM

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If it s a job you enjoy then why should nt a Domme work four times the hours for less than twice the benefit.

Because...that's not how business works. We live in a free market economy. The fact that you enjoy your job doesn't mean you'd be willing to work quadruple the hours for less benefit.

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RE: ProDommes- what do you find as a reasonable rate? - 4/19/2010 3:16:49 AM

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Kevin -- eventually more pro dommes will wake up to reality and adjust their prices so that they can get business. The bottom line is that all services are facing downward pricing pressure. It doesn't matter if you are a plumber or a prostitute -- the economic pressures are similar.

The reason females services are declining in price is because there is more supply (women) then demand (men with money). I can see two major reasons for the sagging rates that can be charged by pro dommes, prostitutes etc.

1) IMMIGRATION -- Statistics show that most people immigrating to the U.S. are young and low income. This is because the third world immigrants (where most immigrants come from) is young compared to the U.S. population. The age shift occurs both for legal and illegal immigrants. So, we have mostly poor young men who do nothing to increase the demand of female services, and we have lots of young females who are in the most marketable age brackets (below 30). Nubile young women from third world countries are flooding the U.S. and they will gladly accept below market rates that seem like fortunes compared to their home countries.

2) UNEMPLOYMENT -- Lots of women are losing their professional jobs as layoffs occur and jobs are offshore outsourced. To survive they turn to selling themselves. If I was to guess most of the good pro dommes are coming from the ranks of management and other professions that stress alpha behavior. The dommes can also get away with being slightly older but that still doesn't mean that they will be immune from the immigrants. Men on the other hand are losing jobs and don't have the expendable income they used to have, so they can't buy what they used to. If the pro domme situation is to improve Obama must make jobs his first priority.

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