crazyml
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael While we use the terms master and slave, I have real trouble with the myth of slavery on so many levels. Totally with you there... but... quote:
Being a slave in no way meant you had anything but hatred and loathing for your master. Being a slave in no way meant you were weak, gladiator's were slaves Being a slave sometimes meant you knew more than you master, were more adept, were "more" in so many ways Being a slave often meant you wanted to be free but society overrode your will to be free I can only agree with the last two of these. The first two I can't support - It wouldn't be true to say that every slave hated and loathed their master - Slavery is absolutely a position of weakness, in terms of status and rights. Of course... many slaves were physically stronger but I don't think that's the point? quote:
Being a slave in the bdsm sense is an entirely different kettle of fish but most often smells at least as bad. I think it is a really awful term (although I admit it is hot) to use for what we use it for, which is someone who surrenders more deeply than a submissive. But even that isn't true, one must step back and see where someone started. There are many here who think doormats are healthy, I am not one of them. Someone who will roll over on their back like some abused and terrified puppy doesn't have much to surrender. Its sort of like an adult bragging about beating a kid in some game, really, you want to brag about that? Yup, I feel the same way. quote:
Ownership is another interesting concept. Ownership of what exactly? You can own the body of a person pretty easy, owning the mind is another matter and again, what sort of mind are you owning and if you can own it, is it worth owning? I wouldn't want a woman who wanted me to make all the decisions, it would bore the fuck out of me, clearly for others, that is what they want. I haven't had any coffee so none of this makes sense but considering the state of OPs lately, I figure this will be something of a high water mark. quite.
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