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RE: a bonding issue - 4/13/2006 10:50:07 AM

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she would like to know, does His takeing it mean the same to Him as it does to her, is it as important to Him as to her, or is this a one sided feeling?

I know a surefire way to find out. Simply ask Him. Everyone can guess at what another persons feeling s and thoughts are, but the only way to real know it to get it straight from the source

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/13/2006 11:09:13 AM

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not to be repetative of another Tigresse........grinning........but I am curious also! Also, why are some men soooo darn.......moody?? I wonder, do men pms also......

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/13/2006 11:09:47 AM

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I personally prefer not to have any slaves serve Me that are virgins in any way, I expect them to know how to please a Man, plain and simple.

However, should one fall into that category... and she is in service to Me... she would know exactly what "could" take place while in My home.. should I choose to do so.

A girl is there to be pleasing and should be ready to do whatever is commanded of her in order to accomplish that task... without expecting to be cuddled and held afterwards.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/13/2006 11:44:25 AM

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With all due respect Mlskijara, what are fighting pits and what is it like to grow up in them?

the pits were where the people who purchased this girl put her. it was like a dog fighting ring. what was it like growing up in them? rough, hungry, mean, distant, cruel.

You are a facinating girl, what is a fighting slave? And how does you master typically keep you in line?

a fighting slave is one that fights other slaves for money or prestige for her Owners. Master knows the threat of pain does not phase this girl, she has sewn her hands up herself, but the threat of Him not allowing this girl to be in His presance, to serve Him.... well, that makes all the difference in the world. until she met her Master, this girl had only known the service side of this. yes, at times she was shown some affection, but it was short lived and fleeting. Master has shown His pet the cherish side and she will do whatever it takes to ensure her Master wishes to continue the cherish. that is how He keeps His bitch in line .... through love.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/13/2006 11:46:25 AM

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/13/2006 11:47:25 AM

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but never underestimate the power of the crop, it also is a great motivater.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/13/2006 6:34:56 PM

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KnightofMists, this girl is a slave, born and bred. she considers the "lifestyle" to be a mutual and loving exchange of needs. the Master's need to control and this girl's need to be controled.
this girl is a maveric when uncollared and only causes herself and T/those around her worry and stress if she is left to her own devices.
she grew up in fighting pits, so can have a bit of an attitude at times, and even in her 40's, sometimes thinks herself untouchable. her Master straightens her out on that score.
this girl is a pet now (the first time in her life she is not a working or fighting slave) but she is not a poodle, she isnt even a pittbull, this girl will eat pittbulls, she is a pet tiger and she acts like a tiger.
just because she has stripes, she will not eat grass and brey like a zebra, this girl needs meat and a good roar on occassion.
she hopes this answered Your question.

The question specifically was "What is Being "IN" the lifestyle. ... but you answer "considers the lifestyle to be"...

what the lifestyleto a person and being "IN" it... is two different things. I can' appreciate very much that a lifestyle for many is a loveing exchange between Master and their slave. That need to control and that need to be control as you say. However, That being said... Being "IN" the lifestyle would indicate that one would have to be In such a relationship in the first place to be "IN" the lifestyle, since you consider the lifestyle to be a specific type of relationship. I suspect many don't require a relationship to consider themself "IN" the lifestyle, I suspect that you don't require yourself to be in this specific relationship to be "IN" the lifesyle.

So Really what is Being "IN" the lifestyle? Is being in the type of relationship one desires... is it the kinky activities... is it active envolvement in ones community... is simply interest in the BDSM and/or D/s M/s relationships. Or is it when we become just self-aware of the things we want at a basic level.... like a D/s or M/s relationship... Like BDSM play and such. Is it Self-Awareness or our needs and desires that puts us "IN" the lifestyle or is it actually involvement in these things we need and/or desire.

You make a statmenet of "Being IN the lifestyle for 33 years when your forty.... Truly what does that mean if one doesn't understant what you think it means to be "IN" the lifestyle. From what you describe.. you indicate that being in the lifestyle would be being in a relationship that is a mutal loving exchange of needs; Master's need to control and slaves need to be controlled. So if your not in this relationship are you "IN" the lifestyle. I think the answer is "YES". I think the Lifestyle is more that just a relationship or being in such a relationship.

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What I am curious about - 4/13/2006 10:38:12 PM

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If this man means everything to you, why are you seeking affirmation here?

Not trying to be an ass but it is really something you out to think about on many levels.

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RE: What I am curious about - 4/14/2006 12:52:58 AM

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i believe she pointed out, twice in this thread, that she had affirmation from her Master but was interested in what other Masters also think.

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RE: What I am curious about - 4/14/2006 12:58:33 AM

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this girl really doesnt understand that animosity she feels comming from some of the Master/Doms here.
being "IN" the lifestyle, KnightofMists, to this one means being aware of O/one's role and experiancing it in as many aspects as possible. no, this girl doesnt think that O/one needs to be in a relationship to be "IN" the lifestyle, this girl is just lucky enough to have a Master right now.

and CrappyDom, this girl IS NOT seeking affirmation here. she was only curious as to how OTHER Masters felt about the subject (jesus, this girl is getting tired of repeating that)

and please E/everyone, remember that not E/everyone has the same outlook, or experiances. the things W/we go through in O/our lives are what mold U/us and guide O/our reactions. just because this girl may not think like Y/you do, does not make her wrong, just because she has a different view on a subject does not indicate that she is stupid.
this girl's Master is pleased with her outlook, opinions, appearance and attitude(for the most part) and as long as Master is pleased, then all is right in this girl's world.
so all the pissy and confrontational comments are soon to be ignored. this girl would like to make friends, but she is getting sick of being confronted on every subject she brings to the board.
if You want to be an asshole, go pick on someone else!!!

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Bravo!! - 4/14/2006 1:04:23 AM

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Oh well said girl, well said indeed!
I too am surprised at the animosity a simple question like this raised, but that's one of the joys of a message board....one never knows what will prompt an attack.

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RE: Bravo!! - 4/14/2006 1:43:00 AM

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hehe Arpig, this girl is used to being attacked in one way or another and is tolerable of ignorance in O/others. what she is not tolerable of is narrow mindedness and in this venue, she thought she would encounter more open mindedness, but, there are anally retentive P/people everywhere.
believe it or not P/people, not E/everyone had the perfect childhood and there are T/those who have experianced many things in a short amount of time, due, solely to situations T/they were thrust into.
this girl could not care less if some of Y/you wish to disbelieve what she has gone through or who and what she is, that does not remove the experiances from her life nor does it change her stripes.
so snicker on about the delusional slave on collarme and the delusional slave will continue to work through the (non-exsistant?) issues she may or may not have and continue on her search for happiness and fullfillment with her (non-exsistant?) Master.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/14/2006 4:27:58 AM

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It would be a sign of your submission to me, beyond what you were willing to give to others. That would make it special in my book. Not to say a woman that doesn't have any first time passes to hand out can't be special

. But to me I'd definitely remember it more fondly, than I would with someone who already has given that part of herself to someone before. It's not really the sexual act moreso, the devotion showed by being able to give him something you couldn't bring yourself to give to someone else. I think in your case the number of years you haven't been able to bring yourself to give it to anyone else marks it as a real milestone of submission to your master.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/14/2006 5:07:16 AM

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It would be a sign of your submission to me, beyond what you were willing to give to others. That would make it special in my book. Not to say a woman that doesn't have any first time passes to hand out can't be special. But to me I'd definitely remember it more fondly, than I would with someone who already has given that part of herself to someone before. It's not really the sexual act moreso, the devotion showed by being able to give him something you couldn't bring yourself to give to someone else. I think in your case the number of years you haven't been able to bring yourself to give it to anyone else marks it as a real milestone of submission to your master.

thank You, NeedToUseYou, for Your opinion of the subject. and thank You also for not picking this girl's words apart in an attempt to uncover some inconsistantcy or untruth that IS NOT there.
this girl also saw giving her virginity to her Master as a special milestone for the exact same reason You mentioned. she couldnt bring herself to let another have it, for it was not theirs to take. it had to be saved for the One it belonged to.

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RE: What I am curious about - 4/14/2006 5:15:16 AM

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this girl really doesnt understand that animosity she feels comming from some of the Master/Doms here.
being "IN" the lifestyle, KnightofMists, to this one means being aware of O/one's role and experiancing it in as many aspects as possible. no, this girl doesnt think that O/one needs to be in a relationship to be "IN" the lifestyle, this girl is just lucky enough to have a Master right now.

and CrappyDom, this girl IS NOT seeking affirmation here. she was only curious as to how OTHER Masters felt about the subject (jesus, this girl is getting tired of repeating that)

and please E/everyone, remember that not E/everyone has the same outlook, or experiances. the things W/we go through in O/our lives are what mold U/us and guide O/our reactions. just because this girl may not think like Y/you do, does not make her wrong, just because she has a different view on a subject does not indicate that she is stupid.
this girl's Master is pleased with her outlook, opinions, appearance and attitude(for the most part) and as long as Master is pleased, then all is right in this girl's world.
so all the pissy and confrontational comments are soon to be ignored. this girl would like to make friends, but she is getting sick of being confronted on every subject she brings to the board.
if You want to be an asshole, go pick on someone else!!!

you really have no clue of what animonsity from me is... My questions are direct... if you don't give an answer that actually answers the question ... it will get asked again.

I do appreciate your answer of being IN the lifestyle ... As being aware of ones role and experiencing it as many ways as possible. I think awareness is the first step with the second step being acceptance followed by actualization. Thru actualization we will learn new things which will propel us forward with new awarenesses of ourselves and so the cycle growth begins.

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RE: What I am curious about - 4/14/2006 5:57:55 AM

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this girl is happy that she finally managed to answer Your question.
she would also like to say that You did put off some anomosity in Your questioning and this girl is intimidated by NO ONE. she obeys her Master because she respects Him not out of fear.
this girl fears harm comming to those she loves and is responsable for, due to her actions, and that is the only thing she fears.
she does not mention this as a attempt at confrontation, KnightofMists, only to give insight to her state of mind.
this girl has only one Master and He is the only One (and Whoever He instructs this girl to) she kneels for.
she did not survive the pits by bowing down to All who wished it and now that she is collared, Any who attempt to "master" this girl without her Master's prior approval and consent, will be eaten..... raw.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/14/2006 6:09:15 AM

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this girl must say that she never expected to get the kind of responses to this question that she has. the banter has made her heart pump and she has enjoyed it tremendously. gimme, gimme, gimme!

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RE: What I am curious about - 4/14/2006 6:51:59 AM

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this girl really doesnt understand that animosity she feels comming from some of the Master/Doms here.
being "IN" the lifestyle, KnightofMists, to this one means being aware of O/one's role and experiancing it in as many aspects as possible. no, this girl doesnt think that O/one needs to be in a relationship to be "IN" the lifestyle, this girl is just lucky enough to have a Master right now.

and CrappyDom, this girl IS NOT seeking affirmation here. she was only curious as to how OTHER Masters felt about the subject (jesus, this girl is getting tired of repeating that)

and please E/everyone, remember that not E/everyone has the same outlook, or experiances. the things W/we go through in O/our lives are what mold U/us and guide O/our reactions. just because this girl may not think like Y/you do, does not make her wrong, just because she has a different view on a subject does not indicate that she is stupid.
this girl's Master is pleased with her outlook, opinions, appearance and attitude(for the most part) and as long as Master is pleased, then all is right in this girl's world.
so all the pissy and confrontational comments are soon to be ignored. this girl would like to make friends, but she is getting sick of being confronted on every subject she brings to the board.
if You want to be an asshole, go pick on someone else!!!

Well said indeed .....

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/14/2006 7:32:39 AM

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It would be a sign of your submission to me, beyond what you were willing to give to others. That would make it special in my book. Not to say a woman that doesn't have any first time passes to hand out can't be special. But to me I'd definitely remember it more fondly, than I would with someone who already has given that part of herself to someone before. It's not really the sexual act moreso, the devotion showed by being able to give him something you couldn't bring yourself to give to someone else. I think in your case the number of years you haven't been able to bring yourself to give it to anyone else marks it as a real milestone of submission to your master.

i really enjoyed your post, NeedToUseYou. i'm not sure this is a wide-spread sentiment, but it made me feel good to read this. Thank you for expressing it.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/14/2006 12:58:00 PM

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To answer the initial question, my girl and I have not experienced anal sex yet - either of us. It's a very sensitive and erotic (physically and mentally) thing for her, and I'm certainly not against it in any way, so we will end up doing it. Because it's something we haven't had, I want it, and so does she. She doesn't want to know that any part of her isn't fully claimed and enjoyed, if there is any enjoyment to be given to me and to us. I love her even more for that.

A friend of mine who was dating an older woman (27 vs 22) found that he was thrilled when they had anal sex because it's something she had never done before. He told me he felt like that was "their thing" and they both really enjoyed it even more because it was theirs. I'm not sure if this gives any insight, since he's not dominant and she's not submissive, but it might apply to some degree anyway. Also, I could add that after they broke up she had a trashy relationship with some other guy as a rebound thing, and ended up admitting to my friend that she'd had anal sex with this random guy. He was very hurt especially by that. *shrug*

As for you getting attacked for your thoughts and for being "active" at 11, screw that. I don't agree with what I know of gor (it is an unnatural and fictionally based bunch of weird rituals and sayings, IMO) but that doesn't mean I'm against people who practice it, or that I want to judge them for it. Also, you were used at 11, and while that probably carried many negatives, it sounds like you have a healthy outlook on things, and perhaps that you've even come to realize that it shaped who you are, and you're happy with yourself to some degree now. You probably went through guilt for it at the time (whether you were enjoying it or not) and since then as well. Do you need more guilt now? No, of course not. It isn't your fault it happened, and it's still not your fault. You accept what happened to you, what you did, and who you are. I think you should be happy about that.

Lastly, just a caution, watch your emotions. You'll represent your Master better, I should think, if you refrain from publicly showing that you've let antagonists get under your skin. I don't know him, and perhaps he is the type who would be glad to see you standing up for yourself, but I don't know many who would encourage their girl to lose her temper and resort to namecalling.

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