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RE: a bonding issue - 4/14/2006 3:54:10 PM

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CanadianGuy, thank You for Your insights.
this girl does like herself and understands that for her to be the person and slave she is today, she had to endure what she did as a child. she knows none of what happened to her then was her fault and she thanks You profusely for reminding her of that fact.
You are correct also, in that she should not have resorted in name calling and she will try and watch herself in future. her Master enjoys the fact that His bitch is capable of takeing care of herself, but name calling IS petty.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/16/2006 9:21:12 AM

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Wow i just read your post on the fighting pits, I may sound naive but I had never heard of that side of the lifestyle, and I am amazed that it exists. Mind if I pry a bit more?

where are these pits?
how many folks are involved in this style of D/s?
is there an audience to the fights?
how did you get introduced to this?
is there a website I could go to learn more?

I am glad you stood up for yourself, it did seem to me you were being picked on too.

But I also want to say that some of the folks showing crankiness, are not being mean to you, they are just cranky, which is really sadness unhealed and scabbed over, please dont take it personally. You are a welcome addition to the boards and I am truly happy you found some one who cherishes you so much.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/16/2006 5:51:30 PM

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Wow i just read your post on the fighting pits, I may sound naive but I had never heard of that side of the lifestyle, and I am amazed that it exists. Mind if I pry a bit more?
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not at all

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where are these pits?
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this girl fought back in the 70's and she was sent all over the u.s. and knew of some in the u.k.

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how many folks are involved in this style of D/s?
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this girl is not sure. back when she was fighting the D/s community was rather underground and the pits were underground that, so this girl is not surprised many have not heard of them.

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is there an audience to the fights?
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there certainly was. M/ male and F/female, Top/Dom/me/Master/Mistresses and their personal, pleasure slaves. the slaves were usually brought to watch as a deterrent to misbehavior. a "keep messing up and I'll put you in here" kind of thing.

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how did you get introduced to this?
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this girl was sold to a pit Master when she was about 13 or so.

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is there a website I could go to learn more?
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this girl has no idea or desire to find out.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/16/2006 9:04:34 PM

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I am gobsmacked...I held my breath and read your reply 3x ...thank you for taking the time to talk to me about this, I am surprised that with such animalistic treatment you were not anally used...so in my mind I think to myself well either the owner did not care for anal, or fighting slaves are not sex slaves, or that maybe each slave has a certain amount of rights of personage and you were allowed to say no?

The reason I ask is because anal sex was introduced to me a requirement of my service from every man that ever owned me.

Maybe you would prefer me to talk to you privately or maybe not at all, but I am really intrigued by this hidden part of the lifestyle may I ask why you were not anally trained?

Did you have any rights at all? Were you owned by the same owner the whole time? How did you find the owner you have now?

Do you know how much you sold for? Do fighters have special quarters, diets, training and that sort of thing? Was love and nurturing a part of that scene?

One of my boys came from a model of D/s that I personally find terrifying. No love, just use, and pain, No talking, no contact, no opinions....I work hard to recondition him to respond more, and and be less robotic. It was like he was a drone when he first came to me, and now he is becoming lively and even a bit snarky on occasion. I love watching this transformation...he pleases me a great deal

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/16/2006 9:51:28 PM

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MLskajira.... as to your OP before it was picked apart there.... yes.. I do think there are alot of others out there that think that when they're given something special, that was never given before to another. That they think it very special and brings a closer bond to the relationship. Some like to cut that notch in the bed post, others cherish. Sounds like yours did too. Congrads to the both of you on tightening that bond.

Dear MLskajira:
I agree with Truesub and Owned here. I don't know why your question was dissected when it seems so straightforward. I believe that women tend to be more sentimental and "mushy" about some things than are men. When I met my Master, we had a talk about things (during our vanilla days) that we liked, disliked, never experienced, etc. There were several things that I had experienced and never wanted to do again because of the bad time doing them with a different partner. My Master never pressured me to do these things and knew why I was resistant to them. However, as time went on, I became more comfortable with the idea of trying these things with Him and cautiously, agreed to "go there" with Him. I had a much better experience with Him, maybe because I trust Him so much and He wanted to make sure that our memories of these times together were good ones. He loves the fact that He was the true first of many things we have done, and that He was my "chosen second" to re-do certain things with me. I hope that this is helpful to you, and I wish you and your Master every happiness together.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/16/2006 11:33:59 PM

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thank you Daddysredhead, this girl is a redhead also. this girl thought females were more sentimental that is why she wanted to know the thoughts of Masters on this. thank you for your info and this girl and her Master are very happy.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/17/2006 12:09:22 AM

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thank you Daddysredhead, this girl is a redhead also.

I'm confused.

In this thread: http://www.collarchat.com/m_328735/mpage_1/key_albino/tm.htm#329374

you say you are an albino.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/17/2006 5:25:25 AM

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you say you are an albino.

Cin

Why are you confused? Seems pretty straight forward.... A Red-Headed Albino Cherokee that spent time in the fighting pits...... Seems logical doesn't it?

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/17/2006 5:30:42 AM

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yes, this girl is in the medical books as the only known true albino, with red hair, hazel eyes and freckles. she should have white hair, pink eyes and translucient skin.
yes, it is true, this girl went through more than a year of being tested, having her picture taken and being asked a bazillion questions until she decided that they were not going to use the info to end the albinoisim, so this girl stopped going.
P/people usually can tell that there is something different about this girl, but, unless she tells them, they usually cannot figure out what it is. somethng about her eyes or skin tone.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/17/2006 2:24:10 PM

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as u see MLskajaira, the skeptics are many on this site. Rightfully so, half of interpreting posts involves separating reality from fiction. Please don't take it personally.....there are many difficult people in all walks of life....here is no exception.

To answer your question depends on the beholder.....i myself am a newbie.....of one year.....I've been in a relationship with a wonderful domme' for the last six months....i submitted to her...... and she gratefully accepted my anal viginity.....it was and is a very big deal to me.....i know regardless of when and where i am.....i shall always remember this wonderful domme.....she may not realize the effect performing this act had........but i shall always remember.....to me....this is the ultimate physical act of submission.........i accepted it and will do so again for this wonderful domme'......."whats mine is hers....and whats hers is hers"

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/17/2006 3:12:25 PM

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thank you ez2bowb4u, for your support and info. this girl feels the same way. and she is well aware that, for some reason KnightofMists, has a problem with this one. but those are his problems and this girl is sick of trying to explain things to him, so let him think what he will about her, because she and those closest to her know what this girl has gone through and who and what she is. his disbelief takes nothing away from her experiances nor does it make her any less than what she is.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/17/2006 3:14:33 PM

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as u see MLskajaira, the skeptics are many on this site.

Yes, many of us are intelligent and can put two and two together. When I see a discrepancy I'm likely to call someone on it. Why not? If they have nothing to hide their answer will be easy, won't it?

I have never heard of a red-headed albino. I'm not sure that I believe her explanation, and I'm honest about that. I didn't find that she answered any of the questions put forth about the so-called fighting pits, either. It was all "I'm not sure".

I have not attacked her, I just don't feel inclined to believe her. As an intelligent, educated, experienced person I'm not driven to believe everything that is said on an internet forum.

Her profile is empty, which means she can change her story at whim. She has no photos, which means she can happily describe herself any way she pleases.

She has every right to say anything about herself, that she wishes. I just have every right not to believe any of it...and frankly, I don't.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/17/2006 3:17:10 PM

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thank you ez2bowb4u, for your support and info. this girl feels the same way. and she is well aware that, for some reason KnightofMists, has a problem with this one.

KOM is a frequent poster on this forum and most of who are regulars here respect his ideas. I am happy to stand beside him on this. You have to know your story sounds like fiction, and you also have to understand that we have every reason to be sceptical about things we are told in an anonymous internet forum.

Cin

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/17/2006 4:55:34 PM

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When it quack like a duck and walks like a duck... usually it's a duck ... regardless if calls itself a swan or not.

but hey... I am just an online bulling asshole *W* Maybe I should do as I suspect others have done from time to time. get another profile to be a jackass with and take passive aggressive swipes.... But really it's not my style... I more in your face and a skeptic of others in the online enivornmentr... but hey just because I haven't seen a purple elephant doesn't mean they don't exist. In this case a Red-Headed Albino.... and lets not forget the freckles and the Ccherokee heritiage... which curiously my kyra has a similiar hertiage. of course my hertiage is French and Blackfoot.... Louie was a cousin.... now if know some canadian history.. you just might know who I am referring too

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/17/2006 4:57:43 PM

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of course cinful, W/we all should be skeptical of E/everyone on the "net"
and as an intelligent, educated, experianced person, this girl has learned that there are many things she has not seen or heard about.
just because the mountain gorilla wasnt discovered until the 1930's (look it up) doesnt mean that it didnt exsist until then, and just because you havent heard of what this girl is and has experianced, doesnt mean it didnt happen.
the reason her profile is fairly empty and she has not posted a picture is because her Master told her she could not, until further notice, and this girl is a good kajira and will obey her Master,.
this girl completely understand the skepticisim of some of you, but out right calling someone a liar, is rude in the extreme. this girl has been only polite until she is attacked, and she thinks that for the most part, she has been polite even then.
so if you think this girl is a liar, then STOP READING HER POST.
and btw, re-read her answers, only some things she couldnt answer, and that is only because she was either not privy to that information or just didnt want it.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/17/2006 5:02:26 PM

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When it quack like a duck and walks like a duck... usually it's a duck ... regardless if calls itself a swan or not.

but hey... I am just an online bulling asshole *W* Maybe I should do as I suspect others have done from time to time. get another profile to be a jackass with and take passive aggressive swipes.... But really it's not my style... I more in your face

I agree. I think it's more respectful to simply say your truth than to pretend to believe something that reads like a tabloid headline.

I don't deny the possibility that she is telling the truth, stranger things have happened, but as you say, if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...I'm not going to rush to call it a loon...err...swan.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/17/2006 5:09:49 PM

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the reason her profile is fairly empty and she has not posted a picture is because her Master told her she could not, until further notice, and this girl is a good kajira and will obey her Master,.

And that is completely within your right. Personally, an empty profile is something I've learned to regard as a possible yellow flag, which is also my right.

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so if you think this girl is a liar, then STOP READING HER POST.

I didn't call you a liar. You may very well believe it is all true. That's not unknown in psychological circles. I've also stated that you may very well be who you say you are.

I don't feel the need to stop reading your posts. I am quite enjoying them.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/17/2006 5:14:02 PM

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LOL Cin... you and KoM are going to make me go back and start over with whole thread here... I'm missing out on something here I'm sure.... and got a feeling... someones seeing something that's not there..... but all is kewl..... I think it's funny.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/17/2006 5:21:57 PM

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I didn't call you a liar. You may very well believe it is all true. That's not unknown in psychological circles. I've also stated that you may very well be who you say you are.
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this girl is not delusional either, she has the mental and physical scars, not to mention some momentos from that time, so SHE knows it happened.
and this girl is well aware of what is known and unknown in psycological circles, she has a degree in psychology and is studying further on the subject right now.
as she said she is an intelligent, educated, experianced person.

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RE: a bonding issue - 4/17/2006 5:22:56 PM

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and btw, re-read her answers, only some things she couldnt answer, and that is only because she was either not privy to that information or just didnt want it.

I see the answers to the first set of questions you were asked, but not to the second set. However, you are well within your right not to answer at all.

Cin

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