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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 2:52:45 PM   
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And I am tired of you dodging my questions in favor of pushing your agenda, what's your point?


I really don’t have an idea what questions you are talking about. I couldn't be bothered going back and reading all your post. Feel free to bring them up. I will say this though, when you post, I do tend to skip a bit and try to get to the main points.

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My best guess is that you are replying to posts you made about males paying, that were refuted by myself and others. Really, what are you on about?


Refuted? lol feel free to keep believing that. I guess it makes you feel better

So what was I on about? If you read what I said after the line you quoted from me, you could actually get it.

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Word salad, please clarify.


It explains as clear as day. It’s up to you to figure it out.

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As always... *sigh*


That’s because I probably have a more interesting life than you. I don’t tend to glue my self to the computer screen for too long.

Arrrr LadyConstanze

You’ve been nipping at my ankles earlier in this thread. I guess I will play this time

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and since most of us don't like your attitude, we're not going to use it on you. Fair enough, isn't it?


Oh no, fuck! A superior woman is going to reject me.

It always makes me giggle when such women like you try to pull off this pathetic stunt by expressing that you won’t play with me. Your narcissism makes you actually believe that I will somehow feel a loss over it or I am somehow supposed to give a fuck. This is just another facet of the superiority complex you feel over me because you feel that you as a woman is an instant winning prize and your self proclaimed golden pussy is worth something to me.

Like many of the women on here, get over your self. pleeease

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Though with your attitude of dommes just being there to serve you


Firstly, I’m a bottom, not a sub/slave. Secondly, dommes are not just there to serve me. It’s about give and take. Unlike the attitudes many… or dare I say most of the dommes have around here; they think its all about them because they are apparently this instant winning prize for having a golden pussy and labelling them selves as a domme.

That aside, many pro dommes even have this “it’s all about me” attitude, even that the client is paying them the money. heh. If I was ever going to pay a domme money, I certainly would want it to be all about me to get my dollars worth. But luckily I am not a sucker. I think it’s as bad as throwing 100 dollar notes down the drain when you see a pro-domme to begin with.

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Well, if he isn't willing to pay even 5 cents, the problem is that things won't be going for him


But of course, this concept doesn’t apply to the superior puss puss. A person is only being cheap in this situation when they are carrying a penis.

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A guy who expects to get everything for free because he's a guy


And to switch the roles around here, it’s pretty much the social norm for a woman to think she deserves everything for free from men while expecting a man to pay a price to get anything from women.

It’s funny how women get cranky when a man gets something for free from a woman or if a man gets sex easily from a woman. It’s apparently a crime in many women’s minds. Yet there is no issue when the roles are reversed. I wonder why?

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there might be some sugar daddies around


I guess that would be your number one priority in your search. Come on, you can admit it to me. The game is up!

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Please tell us the secret how to do an "equal" D/s scene


A D/s scene is simply a D/s scene. But out in the real world and by a person’s gender, they are equal to you. My problem is that I believe many women in western society these days (not just in the BDSM scene) are bought up to believe they are superior princesses and men are supposedly lower than them as a gender or less important. This is due to the backlash of the apparent male chauvinism in earlier generations.


AquaticSub

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There isn't one. But you aren't entitled to anyone's time or affections.


Correct, and this also applies to any entitlement a woman thinks she has over men. That’s fair game.

But the problem here; women aggressively express that men are not entitled to this or that from women (which is fine) but when a man expresses that women are not entitled to this or that from men, he gets a negative reaction.

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But these women are incredibly selective because they can be. So, just like with anyone, you have to appeal to them


And good grief, that’s where the extreme entitlement mentalities come to life.  
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You being unwilling to pay a pro domme isn't going to cause a non pro to decide against you. You insulting women and pitching fits will. Do you see the difference between "RAWR I DUN WANNA  PRO DOMME BAD RAWR" and "I just won't pay but good luck to you!"?

  Well, I like to say exactly what I think. This is a forum and it’s meant for discussion/sharing opinions. I am brutally honest. Sorry if people can’t deal with that. I have very strong views and I wont hold back expressing them.

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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 3:14:01 PM   
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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 3:52:00 PM   
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I really don’t have an idea what questions you are talking about. I couldn't be bothered going back and reading all your post. Feel free to bring them up. I will say this though, when you post, I do tend to skip a bit and try to get to the main points.

Since you admit that you don't bother to actually read my posts, I can't be arsed to reply to you, let alone c&p what I've already written. Please do keep digging that hole deeper, but I'm done with this thread.


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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 4:08:03 PM   
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But these women are incredibly selective because they can be. So, just like with anyone, you have to appeal to them

ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

And good grief, that’s where the extreme entitlement mentalities come to life.  

*snip*
  Well, I like to say exactly what I think. This is a forum and it’s meant for discussion/sharing opinions. I am brutally honest. Sorry if people can’t deal with that. I have very strong views and I wont hold back expressing them.



No. They are selective because they CAN be not because they are entitled to be. I am - a non pro submissive - am also very selective because, at least for now, I have enough people interested in me that I can afford to be picky. It has nothing to do with entitlement.

As for saying what you think, you aren't saying what you think. You are gleefully seeking out any chance to jump all over people you disagree with, screaming at the top of your lungs. That isn't being honest, it's being rude. It's not making a point, it's making people dismiss you out of hand. You may have some valid points but no one can see them for your hostile approach.

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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 4:38:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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But these women are incredibly selective because they can be. So, just like with anyone, you have to appeal to them

ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

And good grief, that’s where the extreme entitlement mentalities come to life.  



No. They are selective because they CAN be not because they are entitled to be. I am - a non pro submissive - am also very selective because, at least for now, I have enough people interested in me that I can afford to be picky. It has nothing to do with entitlement.


The highlighted is simply quoted for truth.  In My personal opinion and experience, there are fewer women casually topping than there are males who are bottoming.  If I go to a BDSM club, I don't have any issues filling My dance card.  On the other hand, there are often times that males will go to the same club, but there just aren't enough female tops for all of them to get a chance to play or find people who want to play with them.  That's one of the very reasons (please note that I'm not saying the only reason) that pros exist in the first place.  The clients want to play but aren't able to find people willing to top them. 

If I go to the dungeon wanting to play, and I get approached by five people who want to bottom, I'm going to make a selection of who I want to play with based on something.  My usual way of going about this is, first draft are those folks that I've played with before and we have good report.  After that, it could depend on whatever suits Me.  It can be a person's attitude, how friendly they are, age, physical attraction, experience level, kink preferences, or however I decide to pick one over the other.  Either way, four of those people aren't getting to play.  I would have to think that, to a client, money is the equalizer for ensuring that they get the opportunity.

As to the actual OP, I'm sorry that I don't have much business advice for you.  The only thing I can say is do the same thing that you would as a lifestyle person.  Put a good effort into learning your topping skills and educate yourself about how to handle situations that go wrong.  That's something that all of us who are topping should do whether we're making money at the venture or not.


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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 5:44:38 PM   
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And it'd probably be a good idea to learn how to stay safe, too.  Just thought that particular subject might be worth a little mention in this thread somewhere or another.

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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 9:18:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

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But these women are incredibly selective because they can be. So, just like with anyone, you have to appeal to them

ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

And good grief, that’s where the extreme entitlement mentalities come to life.  



No. They are selective because they CAN be not because they are entitled to be. I am - a non pro submissive - am also very selective because, at least for now, I have enough people interested in me that I can afford to be picky. It has nothing to do with entitlement.


The highlighted is simply quoted for truth.  In My personal opinion and experience, there are fewer women casually topping than there are males who are bottoming.  If I go to a BDSM club, I don't have any issues filling My dance card.  On the other hand, there are often times that males will go to the same club, but there just aren't enough female tops for all of them to get a chance to play or find people who want to play with them.  That's one of the very reasons (please note that I'm not saying the only reason) that pros exist in the first place.  The clients want to play but aren't able to find people willing to top them. 

If I go to the dungeon wanting to play, and I get approached by five people who want to bottom, I'm going to make a selection of who I want to play with based on something.  My usual way of going about this is, first draft are those folks that I've played with before and we have good report.  After that, it could depend on whatever suits Me.  It can be a person's attitude, how friendly they are, age, physical attraction, experience level, kink preferences, or however I decide to pick one over the other.  Either way, four of those people aren't getting to play.  I would have to think that, to a client, money is the equalizer for ensuring that they get the opportunity.

As to the actual OP, I'm sorry that I don't have much business advice for you.  The only thing I can say is do the same thing that you would as a lifestyle person.  Put a good effort into learning your topping skills and educate yourself about how to handle situations that go wrong.  That's something that all of us who are topping should do whether we're making money at the venture or not.



Isn't that something like a turd feeling entitled because it attracts flies?

Quality guys are not going to feel a woman is more desirable simply because men (who are losers) line up for her attention and/or BDSM or sex.  In fact, quality guys are going to walk the other way if a woman somehow acts proud that losers are lining up for her. 

The BDSM scene and its desperation makes women feel way more superior sexually/attraction-wise than they actually are on a level playing feel.  I don't feel especially Goddess-like because so many morons are hitting on me; these morons are hitting on 5 - 10 other femdoms at the same time.   I am sure if I went to a fetish party I'd feel like a Goddess with guys hitting on me, but I'll pass.  I prefer to be the one selecting.

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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 9:22:50 PM   
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Please folks, trim your quotes.

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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 9:29:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Who said goddess like or that we feel entitled? You may want to reread the posts.

LadyPact and I simply said that we CAN be picky. We are not ENTITLED to be picky but - for whatever reason - neither of us are lacking for play partners. So we CAN be.

That may change over time. Who knows. But I'm not proud that people are "lining up" and I never said such thing. Nor did I say lining up. Simply that I have enough people interested that I can be picky.

Seriously, do I need to pull out the dictionary and post the definitions for "can" and "entitled"?

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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 9:49:11 PM   
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Isn't that something like a turd feeling entitled because it attracts flies?

Quality guys are not going to feel a woman is more desirable simply because men (who are losers) line up for her attention and/or BDSM or sex.  In fact, quality guys are going to walk the other way if a woman somehow acts proud that losers are lining up for her. 

The BDSM scene and its desperation makes women feel way more superior sexually/attraction-wise than they actually are on a level playing feel.  I don't feel especially Goddess-like because so many morons are hitting on me; these morons are hitting on 5 - 10 other femdoms at the same time.   I am sure if I went to a fetish party I'd feel like a Goddess with guys hitting on me, but I'll pass.  I prefer to be the one selecting.

Akasha


Who says the women aren't the ones selecting?  Part of the point again.  It's what the selection is based on.

I think it's a huge misconception to label folks who play at clubs as losers or morons.  There are good people in the social scene.   I happen to give them a lot more credit for being active in the lifestyle than those who don't ever take a chance.  Of course, since I don't make any money from it, I don't have a vested interest in discouraging people to go out an meet other kinky folks.


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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 10:13:52 PM   
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Isn't that something like a turd feeling entitled because it attracts flies?

Quality guys are not going to feel a woman is more desirable simply because men (who are losers) line up for her attention and/or BDSM or sex.  In fact, quality guys are going to walk the other way if a woman somehow acts proud that losers are lining up for her. 

The BDSM scene and its desperation makes women feel way more superior sexually/attraction-wise than they actually are on a level playing feel.  I don't feel especially Goddess-like because so many morons are hitting on me; these morons are hitting on 5 - 10 other femdoms at the same time.   I am sure if I went to a fetish party I'd feel like a Goddess with guys hitting on me, but I'll pass.  I prefer to be the one selecting.

Akasha



Wow... I think I'm a bit stunned that you said that. Thankfully I have no flies in my my house because my mouth did fall open. LadyPact can stand up for what she actually said and I am not trying to jump to her defense. However, Akasha, you did some mad jumping around there, misquoted LadyPact, projected your assumptions/judgments and were wildly insulting. That was pretty fucked up.

Why would you word things the way you did? Who says men at these events are losers? Shit lady, if you want to get right down to it, the men you cater to would be people I would find more of a loser than those at events. Online kinkfest... yeah... guys paying for wank material verses guys out getting involved, proving they are more than a keyboard and fast hand with a credit card and ever so faithful to their online kinkstress.

I cannot believe you said all that garbage.


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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 10:23:10 PM   
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I think it's a huge misconception to label folks who play at clubs as losers or morons.  There are good people in the social scene.   I happen to give them a lot more credit for being active in the lifestyle than those who don't ever take a chance.


Yes, there are.  Unfortunately there are also some seriously manners-deficient sleazebags, and it is No Fun if you're at one of the events where there are too many of that type in attendance.   I don't think that everyone who attends events is a moron, since I fall into that category myself, but the guys who repeatedly hit on women and don't take no for an answer certainly are.  And you will find them at some types of venues.

I've been to many truly excellent, well managed events where almost everyone is courteous and intelligent and fun to be around, and I've also attended some absolutely horrid ones that I could only conclude must have been advertised to the local swinger's crowd.  My suggestion would be to find the core leather community, the responsible and community conscious folks, and avoid the hell out of more commercialized venues, because your experience as a domme attending events is likely to be pleasant and welcoming in the former and fairly wretched in the latter.  Aakasha's neck of the woods has a fair bit of the latter in my experience.


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Of course, since I don't make any money from it, I don't have a vested interest in discouraging people to go out an meet other kinky folks.


Uh, Aakasha just barely qualifies as a very occasional pro session dabbler, and I don't think she's actually done one for years.  Nor does she discourage people from the social scene; quite to the contrary, she has been actively encouraging people to go to their local Munches and join the community since the 1990's on alt.sex.femdom. 

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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 10:29:37 PM   
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Wow... I think I'm a bit stunned that you said that. Thankfully I have no flies in my my house because my mouth did fall open. LadyPact can stand up for what she actually said and I am not trying to jump to her defense. However, Akasha, you did some mad jumping around there, misquoted LadyPact, projected your assumptions/judgments and were wildly insulting. That was pretty fucked up.

Why would you word things the way you did? Who says men at these events are losers? Shit lady, if you want to get right down to it, the men you cater to would be people I would find more of a loser than those at events. Online kinkfest... yeah... guys paying for wank material verses guys out getting involved, proving they are more than a keyboard and fast hand with a credit card and ever so faithful to their online kinkstress.

I cannot believe you said all that garbage.



I'm just a bit tired of femdoms who are making it seem like the attention they get at public events like this give them some large number of options - that's like saying the fact that we (as femdoms, or as women), since we get 100s of emails on cm, have lots of options.  It doesn't mean that - it means we have a lot of screening, because most of these men seriously are not doing anything other than spamming.  

I'm not sure what you mean about the men I cater to. I'm happily married to the man I dominate and the play partners I have on the side aren't frequenting these events.

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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 10:36:11 PM   
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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 11:12:06 PM   
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Quality guys are not going to feel a woman is more desirable simply because men (who are losers) line up for her attention and/or BDSM or sex. In fact, quality guys are going to walk the other way if a woman somehow acts proud that losers are lining up for her.

The BDSM scene and its desperation makes women feel way more superior sexually/attraction-wise than they actually are on a level playing feel.


Paragraph one .... You are on the money! The line doesn't matter ... it means an easy ... whatever ....

Paragraph two ... real Women see through this illusion ... when they discover a real man ... they flock to him ... because they can see the potential mental and emotional connection ... (Yes, this is selection ... real Women do select the man.)

and in the end ... isn't that what the physical is all about?

BTW ... real men seek the mental and emotional too ... just saying ....





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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 11:17:37 PM   
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I'm just a bit tired of femdoms who are making it seem like the attention they get at public events like this give them some large number of options - that's like saying the fact that we (as femdoms, or as women), since we get 100s of emails on cm, have lots of options.  It doesn't mean that - it means we have a lot of screening, because most of these men seriously are not doing anything other than spamming.  


Did you notice I'm not a fem dom? I realize with the name AquaticSub, it's an easy mistake to make...

Seriously, your insult came out of left field and was directed at a non pro fem dom and a fem sub, neither of whom used the words entitled or goddess.

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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 11:18:57 PM   
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Quality guys are not going to feel a woman is more desirable simply because men (who are losers) line up for her attention and/or BDSM or sex. In fact, quality guys are going to walk the other way if a woman somehow acts proud that losers are lining up for her.

The BDSM scene and its desperation makes women feel way more superior sexually/attraction-wise than they actually are on a level playing feel.


Paragraph one .... You are on the money! The line doesn't matter ... it means an easy ... whatever ....

Paragraph two ... real Women see through this illusion ... when they discover a real man ... they flock to him ... because they can see the potential mental and emotional connection ...

and in the end ... isn't that what the physical is all about?

BTW ... real men seek the mental and emotional too ... just saying ....


So why bitch about the pro dommes about all? The fake doms attract the fake men and make things easy on everyone...

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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 11:31:50 PM   
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So why bitch about the pro dommes about all?


Frankly ... I don't recall a single post I have ever made ... bitching about Pro Domme's.

In fact, I believe, I have encouraged a few newbies to see one ...

So I am really unclear ... as to why you jumped on me ...

But don't explain here ... send me a Cmail ...

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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 11:42:55 PM   
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So why bitch about the pro dommes about all?


Frankly ... I don't recall a single post I have ever made ... bitching about Pro Domme's.

In fact, I believe, I have encouraged a few newbies to see one ...

So I am really unclear ... as to why you jumped on me ...

But don't explain here ... send me a Cmail ...


My point was more to those who have been complaining about them in this thread.

If I were jumping, you'd know.

Edited to add - Though as an aside, I'm curious why you think having enough options in terms of play partners means someone is easy - "The line doesn't matter ... it means an easy ... whatever .... ". Though again... The term line was never used in the quoted posts that LadyPact and I made so I'd also really like to know why it was put in there.

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RE: What do it takes to become a pro domme? - 10/23/2010 11:43:15 PM   
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