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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/28/2011 6:13:01 PM   
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Good point (I hate when I have to say that) Kind of an odd proposition to put forth in a forum dedicated to seeking the insight of dominant women. What kind of special insight would they have as to why some submissive men are single?

The forum names on here are kind of misnomers - this should really be called 'Ask people in F/m dynamics'....

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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/28/2011 6:40:43 PM   
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This is the reason I don't voice my thoughts on many topics. I appreciate the things I learn from other people's experiences, and the way others can make me look at a situation from a different perspective. There are often many common points between all dominant and submissive groupings, but sometimes what's being discussed is a far cry from what I'm looking for, as a female dominant who seeks a female slave.

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The forum names on here are kind of misnomers - this should really be called 'Ask people in F/m dynamics'....


edit: typo


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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/28/2011 7:35:07 PM   
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There are often many common points between all dominant and submissive groupings, but sometimes what's being discussed is a far cry from what I'm looking for, as a female dominant who seeks a female slave.

That's hot. Gay. But hot.

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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/28/2011 8:54:17 PM   
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I figure I have to enjoy myself being single first.
You ought to enjoy yourself, simply because, not to, is a waste of time.   You can be deep, and intense, but there is no point in torturing yourself, when you'll find plenty of people in the world to do that for you. [joking or maybe not].  
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This may take a while but self-exploration is FUN and PAINFUL. I should be happy, right??
You don't have to chase happiness, as much as not waste time being unhappy...   Or worse, be unhappy about being unhappy.   Is self exploration painful?   It may not always be fun, but unless it entails abuse, I wouldn't take myself so seriously, as to not laugh at myself, while learning.   M

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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/28/2011 11:30:06 PM   
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General reply -

Lack of good social and communication skills are often the reason that an individual remains single and unable to make a connection. And also remember that some persons are great at starting relationships but not at maintaining them.

Your mileage may vary,

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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/29/2011 12:45:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Chulain

Good point (I hate when I have to say that) Kind of an odd proposition to put forth in a forum dedicated to seeking the insight of dominant women. What kind of special insight would they have as to why some submissive men are single?


  The insight from having to pick and choose.

I know why I am single.  I wasn't looking and...now that I am, I'm sure I am incompatible with many.

I could give you an example of why I know some guys just keep on getting passed over, but if I mentioned what was said (even without using usernames) I would be violating TOS. 


Hate to say it, but some guys seem to be too used to buying whatever they want, like coughshookerscough and eye candy from exotic dancers and have lost whatever courting skills they may have started out with.  For example, some submissives will send letters every few months for years (I recognise some from my old profile, lol) asking for a date and in the same breath, asking about having a strapon used on them.  <rolls eyes>  I am tired of guys trying to buy my time with money or gifts or offering me all expenses paid vacations.  (So okay, that last part only happens once or twice per year, on average.)  I know why I lose interest in these guys, because they would rather invest with their wallets than give me what I really want.

Now back to tossing the rest of my two cents at the OP's comment...

With some male subs, I guess they are just careful about who they choose...and are not in any hurry.  Maybe some live in small towns and have no plans to relocate.

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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/29/2011 8:32:48 AM   
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Good point (I hate when I have to say that) Kind of an odd proposition to put forth in a forum dedicated to seeking the insight of dominant women. What kind of special insight would they have as to why some submissive men are single?


You don't think we know how we're approached?  That we don't know why some guys don't get to have the first meet at all or the reasons why a first meet is all there will ever be?  Maybe you're thinking that we don't see the issues that our submissive friends have or even though they are friends, reasons why we wouldn't date them ourselves.  (If somebody's got a reputation for being hideously cheap, we might socialize with him at the munch, but wouldn't actually go out with him.)  I suppose the prior dating history of the submissives that we've had never comes up in conversation over the years.



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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/29/2011 9:56:43 AM   
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You don't think we know how we're approached?

You think I don't know how you're approached, by men who call themselves submissive, but are really interested in a one-button fantasy machine, or a free pro-domme, whom they can use to get their rocks off and then put away to patiently wait until called forth when next needed?

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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/29/2011 10:57:22 AM   
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I think most folks on the forums get the opportunity to hear the pitfalls of other genders/orientations.  It isn't hard to find the discussions on the matter.  (That's over an above what I see come through MP and clip's mailbox.) 

I have to admit, I don't deal much with the folks that you are describing.  I figure it's just a case of block, delete, report for spam.  I've got very little interest in correspondence from folks who aren't from the forums or who are local to Me, so I treat those messages accordingly.


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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/29/2011 12:28:17 PM   
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Someone want to meet me at a White Castle? Chulain there are women on here who only want to meet you to get their "rocks" off.

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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/29/2011 12:32:55 PM   
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White Castle?  Not so much.  (It's an onion thing.)  In and Out Burger here in CA?  Sure.

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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/29/2011 10:27:10 PM   
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dammit, LAdyP..

now I'm craving one...

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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/30/2011 12:52:45 AM   
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I'm dieing to write something here but everytime I type anything I keep deleting it and writing something new because I don't want to say something stupid.

I'm newly single.  (Yesterday) after a 5 year relationship.  The first thing I've done after we broke up is come here to find someone more suited to me. 
I'm probably the kind of person whom would be hated in a place like this because I'm here as a single man to escape the hardship I just came from.

Without knowing it, I think I was a submissive to her.  I did everything she asked and got nothing in return.  When I say nothing, I mean NOTHING.  Its not like if I did something right I'd get a pat on the head and she'd say "good slave".   If I did something right, I got nothing.  And it wasn't a slave/ domme relationship.  It was just, boyfriend and girlfriend.  So, thats why I think some submissives are single, because what I learned is deep down we all do things for other people for something in return.  Even if the only thing we get in return is the chance to do it again.  I think deep down though, all they/ we want is a bit of something in return.  Some men want it as sex, some men will be all philosophical about it and say things like "to be of servitude is enough return for me", but its always give and take, in any relationship. Even when we give to charity.  All we want in return is for the charity we are donating to to do its job and make life easier for those whom we love but have never met and probably never will.  Its not selfish, but its still something we want in return.

If you give and never take, you will end up a kind of, cliche pathetic, grovelling submissive. Begging and never receiving.

When you are single, you have no one that you have to give yourself to.  Therefor there is no one to NOT give you what you need.  You don't have to worship someone only to be forever disapointed because she won't acknowledge you or give you her effection.  I don't know if any of what I have written makes sense.  All I know is I don't want to purposely paint myself as pathetic because I have alot to give and would rather stay single than waste it on a women who is acting mean because she knows it will bring some desperado to her feet when inside, she is a kitten.  I'd much rather a strong women whom is strong enough inside to know she doesn't have to promise anything because she is strong enough to give back to those who give to her and that if it is somehow interpreted as weak, she has the inner strength to handle it, as opposed to what I came from.  All bitchyness on the outside but no bite on the inside.

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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/30/2011 1:13:22 AM   
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Dude! Seriously? WTF?

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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/30/2011 1:19:16 AM   
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I'm dieing to write something here but everytime I type anything I keep deleting it and writing something new because I don't want to say something stupid.

I'm newly single. (Yesterday) after a 5 year relationship. The first thing I've done after we broke up is come here to find someone more suited to me.
I'm probably the kind of person whom would be hated in a place like this because I'm here as a single man to escape the hardship I just came from.

Without knowing it, I think I was a submissive to her. I did everything she asked and got nothing in return. When I say nothing, I mean NOTHING. Its not like if I did something right I'd get a pat on the head and she'd say "good slave". If I did something right, I got nothing. And it wasn't a slave/ domme relationship. It was just, boyfriend and girlfriend. So, thats why I think some submissives are single, because what I learned is deep down we all do things for other people for something in return. Even if the only thing we get in return is the chance to do it again. I think deep down though, all they/ we want is a bit of something in return. Some men want it as sex, some men will be all philosophical about it and say things like "to be of servitude is enough return for me", but its always give and take, in any relationship. Even when we give to charity. All we want in return is for the charity we are donating to to do its job and make life easier for those whom we love but have never met and probably never will. Its not selfish, but its still something we want in return.

If you give and never take, you will end up a kind of, cliche pathetic, grovelling submissive. Begging and never receiving.
All I know is I don't want to purposely paint myself as pathetic because I have alot to give and would rather stay single than waste it on a women who is acting mean because she knows it will bring some desperado to her feet when inside, she is a kitten.  I'd much rather a strong women whom is strong enough inside to know she doesn't have to promise anything because she is strong enough to give back to those who give to her and that if it is somehow interpreted as weak, she has the inner strength to handle it, as opposed to what I came from.  All bitchyness on the outside but no bite on the inside.
I hope all of the women you approach read this, because the last thing any domina needs, is an angry man, recently rejected.    M

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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/30/2011 1:59:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KeepMeUnderneath

I'm dieing to write something here but everytime I type anything I keep deleting it and writing something new because I don't want to say something stupid.

I'm newly single.  (Yesterday) after a 5 year relationship.  The first thing I've done after we broke up is come here to find someone more suited to me. 
I'm probably the kind of person whom would be hated in a place like this because I'm here as a single man to escape the hardship I just came from.

Without knowing it, I think I was a submissive to her.  I did everything she asked and got nothing in return.  When I say nothing, I mean NOTHING.  Its not like if I did something right I'd get a pat on the head and she'd say "good slave".   If I did something right, I got nothing.  And it wasn't a slave/ domme relationship.  It was just, boyfriend and girlfriend.  So, thats why I think some submissives are single, because what I learned is deep down we all do things for other people for something in return.  Even if the only thing we get in return is the chance to do it again.  I think deep down though, all they/ we want is a bit of something in return.  Some men want it as sex, some men will be all philosophical about it and say things like "to be of servitude is enough return for me", but its always give and take, in any relationship. Even when we give to charity.  All we want in return is for the charity we are donating to to do its job and make life easier for those whom we love but have never met and probably never will.  Its not selfish, but its still something we want in return.

If you give and never take, you will end up a kind of, cliche pathetic, grovelling submissive. Begging and never receiving.

When you are single, you have no one that you have to give yourself to.  Therefor there is no one to NOT give you what you need.  You don't have to worship someone only to be forever disapointed because she won't acknowledge you or give you her effection.  I don't know if any of what I have written makes sense.  All I know is I don't want to purposely paint myself as pathetic because I have alot to give and would rather stay single than waste it on a women who is acting mean because she knows it will bring some desperado to her feet when inside, she is a kitten.  I'd much rather a strong women whom is strong enough inside to know she doesn't have to promise anything because she is strong enough to give back to those who give to her and that if it is somehow interpreted as weak, she has the inner strength to handle it, as opposed to what I came from.  All bitchyness on the outside but no bite on the inside.



I see you have just left a long term relationship...and still have issues you are working on so you can be at peace with yourself again.  It is my opinion that you should take several months to decompress and think things over before hurling yourself into the dating scene again.

Rebound relationships are often...bandaids for past wounds.  Few last.

Think about why you stayed with someone for five long years when she was giving nothing back to you at all.  Was this really true, or simply how it feels like right now, when you are upset?

Next time, you want to feel loved and to be given the occasional pat on the head, and...you also want a woman with bite who doesn't pretend to be a bitch, to get what she wants, but just...IS one?

Now that you understand what you don't want, maybe you will have better luck in time finding what you need.  Best wishes to you in your search, and I hope things get better for you over time.  Unless all feelings for her are dead, things will get worse before they get better...so keep busy and get out of the house...and eat some chocolate when you are feeling low.


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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/30/2011 5:48:47 AM   
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I'm newly single.  (Yesterday) after a 5 year relationship.  The first thing I've done after we broke up is come here to find someone more suited to me. 
I'm probably the kind of person whom would be hated in a place like this because I'm here as a single man to escape the hardship I just came from.

Hated?  No.  Avoided on a relationship level like the plague?  Probably.  It just screams issues that you haven't given yourself time to get over yet.  What balanced individual goes from a five year relationship straight into another one without dealing with the loss of the prior relationship first?


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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/30/2011 10:57:09 AM   
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Single men who are single, and Domme-less or Mistress-Less, as you wish often share one common trait, and it´s not being cheap.....or poor, which are two separate things, which do not equate to unsuccessfulness.....

They are single because they can´t earn the attention and love of a Mistress/Domme, and they make a lousy and cheesy attempt at tyring to either buy her or get a charity session...

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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/30/2011 12:03:35 PM   
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Some of us stay single because we are very picky about what we want. I date frequently, have short term relationships, but as far as entering into something longer term goes I have some pretty high standards and expectations. That's really all it comes down to. It's like that old story by Kafka about the Hunger Artist. Everybody thought there was some deep masochistic or existential secret behind the guy starving himself. Turned out homeboy was just a picky eater and he never saw anything he really liked enough to bother breaking his fast.

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RE: My thoughts on why some sub men are still single - 1/30/2011 3:51:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar
Someone want to meet me at a White Castle? Chulain there are women on here who only want to meet you to get their "rocks" off.

You're making some kind of joke at my expense, and I'm man enough to admit I don't get it.

Now you can make a joke about me not "getting" it.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
White Castle?  Not so much.  (It's an onion thing.)

See? Dominant women and onions. Gonna be big.

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In and Out Burger here in CA?  Sure.

That's what a hamburger's all about.


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