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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/1/2011 7:14:59 AM   
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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/1/2011 7:16:31 AM   
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If America had not said no to Britain or failed to rid British corporate rule, I wonder what America would be like today, maybe like other cast off former British colonies perhaps.


More like Canada, i think. (Not that that's bad.)

And we would still be drinking tea.

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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/1/2011 7:36:01 AM   
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Susan34b said:

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we never practiced segregation


Tell it to the Irish.



Aneirin said:

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I didn't realise until recently that the American war of independance of 1775 started out as a war between British colonists and the British Parliament and culminating in Europe aiding the colonists to rid the British attempt at rule of yet another foreign country, so America is the one that got away. If America had not said no to Britain or failed to rid British corporate rule, I wonder what America would be like today, maybe like other cast off former British colonies perhaps.


There are a lot of Alternative History websites and books out there that explore the fascinating possibilities of “what if…” scenarios of history (what if the north lost the civil war? What if the allies lost world war two?, etc) You’ll have to sift through them to separate the crackpots from the serious scholars but there is a lot of fascinating reading out there. Here is just one example.



As for the subject matter at hand: I certainly don’t fancy myself as an expert on British History but I am a borderline Bardolarter (eg Shakespeare fanatic) and that has led me to read up on the subject. My main “textbook” is British History for Dummies (no joke!)

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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/1/2011 7:47:18 AM   
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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 8:20:07 AM   
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Let's revisit the original proposal here.



"British history as Armenia understands it?"

Oh wait

"as Hermetica understands it?"

no, well then


"as Amish understand it?"

not that one either


"as Ametica understands it?"


I'm lost here.


Could you please repeat the question, sir?









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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 8:26:25 AM   
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They was some bad chaps that wanted us to pay for texas, and we are against paying them.

So, when they got stroppy this one time, we "trew dem a hell of a beatin'."

(there you have it, this piece is entitled, 'Gladstone, in a Gladstone bag.')

Palmerston (the government that wasn't about to recognize our confederate government because of a little social and political faux paus called slavery).

Benjamin D'Israeli (who was PM when me ancestors left, who was Sandwiched (as in the Earl, but not the Earl) in between Gladstones.    

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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 8:41:45 AM   
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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 9:17:40 AM   
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In the matter of the ruling on segregation in schools,as we never practiced segregation,the question never arose,although there is law regarding racial discrimination and human rights. 

(Ducks and runs)


You've never practiced segregation?

Did you really just say that?


Immigration rise increases segregation in British cities - Times ...


Charles Clarke, the home secretary, announced in February that the government would try to end “chain migration” under which migrants come to Britain to join spouses or other relatives.

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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 9:27:14 AM   
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From the British perspective,your "Founding Fathers" were an 18th century version of Al-Qieda....just a bunch of terrorists.
There goes any chance I ever had of getting a visa!!

Yes,our laws and decisions on interpretation of the law are based on case-law and it's review by the appellant courts.Judging from posts on here we are lucky not to have a written constitution.
In the matter of the ruling on segregation in schools,as we never practiced segregation,the question never arose,although there is law regarding racial discrimination and human rights. 

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The issue was and IS a central bank.

The theme recurs today.



The only theme that recurs is your insanity.

What in God's name does a central bank have to do with anything she said?

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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 9:37:03 AM   
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In the matter of the ruling on segregation in schools,as we never practiced segregation,the question never arose,although there is law regarding racial discrimination and human rights. 



No, there was just segregation in society which was even better.

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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 9:59:26 AM   
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Susan34b said:

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we never practiced segregation


Tell it to the Irish.

They segregated themselves we just provided the fences and armed guards.



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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 10:02:30 AM   
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In case it might have escaped notice heretofore, the original OP pressed others as to their 'understanding' of British history. Putting aside for the moment that the British have historically displayed every evidence of lacking ability to understand much of anything outside their own immediate ends, let's investigate why the question was never rendered as "what do Americans understand about history of other countries?"

"The apple falling not far from the tree" comes first to mind here, but that aside, let's just press further into the matter, which fixation on the "super power du jure" will not accomplish much, and delve into the world as it exists now and has done so for millennia, however they might have accomplished that in the absence of the unquestionably superior British education and culture.


How much do Indonesians know of British history?


My current study has to do with developmental economics, and from all empirical evidence that I've seen so far, the rate of success has much to do with lack of exogenous influence.



Let us now praise these small country's ignorance of British history.


Too bad the US could not find their way to greater separation, all I can say.




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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 10:05:43 AM   
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Putting aside for the moment that the British have historically displayed every evidence of lacking ability to understand much of anything outside their own immediate ends,


naaaa, no need to put that statement aside....love it

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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 10:13:45 AM   
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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 10:38:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: gungadin09

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

If America had not said no to Britain or failed to rid British corporate rule, I wonder what America would be like today, maybe like other cast off former British colonies perhaps.


More like Canada, i think. (Not that that's bad.)

And we would still be drinking tea.

pam


corporate rule is the biggest complaint here in the states today.

just substituted one group of despots for another.






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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 11:45:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: stellauk

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ORIGINAL: susan34B

In the matter of the ruling on segregation in schools,as we never practiced segregation,the question never arose,although there is law regarding racial discrimination and human rights. 



No, there was just segregation in society which was even better.

Which is why the race relations act was necessary in the first place, of course.

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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 1:27:02 PM   
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You do not have a choice of who you wish to associate with.

I am all for people getting along, but MOBocracy force?

NOT


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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 4:46:00 PM   
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You've never practiced segregation?

Did you really just say that?


Immigration rise increases segregation in British cities - Times ...


Charles Clarke, the home secretary, announced in February that the government would try to end “chain migration” under which migrants come to Britain to join spouses or other relatives.



RML, you are confusing immigration with segregation.

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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 5:00:33 PM   
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In the matter of the ruling on segregation in schools,as we never practiced segregation,the question never arose,although there is law regarding racial discrimination and human rights. 

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Really never? Maybe you should ask some Jews if that is so?

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RE: Brtitish History as Ametica understands it ? - 4/2/2011 5:08:41 PM   
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Really never? Maybe you should ask some Jews if that is so?


Care to provide an example Ken ? Jewish Immigrants lived in working class neighbourhoods along with the rest of the working class.

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