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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 12:39:09 PM

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Ah, now we pull other countries into the mix.

70,000 women die each year from "illegal" abortions. A small proportion to the number of abortions performed each year, true. However, it could be larger if suddenly abortions were illegal world wide.

Ireland .... Its one of those issues I dont agree with. But, currently, we are having a huge battle with abortion rights in the US, which is my primary concern.

What makes prostitution unique? Its a woman deciding what to do with her body. Its not the introduction of mind altering drugs. Its the necessity, or the desire, a woman has to take care of herself. Why is prostitution illegal in almost every state but one? If we took out the "illegal" element and hit the pimps where it hurts, there wouldnt be half the problems

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 12:48:15 PM

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Ok, this helps define what you are seeking to discuss but why not apply this question to all genders or living human beings?

This context makes it more interesting. A lot of people who would disagree with the statement "people should be able to choose to do drugs" would also say they agree with the statement "a woman has the right to choose what to do with her own body" and to me that is an interesting paradox........
So where should her ability to choose what to do to her own body end? And why there?

There is no end to a woman's choice of what she does with her body. One can choose drugs, but then one becomes a drag on the rest of society(being non-productive, needing free medical care, etc). One can choose prostitution, but I imagine the practice to be soul-killing.

What if society were to compel men to become fathers? Milk them for their sperm and then force them to pay child support?

Her body, her choice. That is all.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 12:51:36 PM

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...........If we took out the "illegal" element and hit the pimps where it hurts, there wouldnt be half the problems

Are you suggesting if there weren't pimps, there wouldn't be prostitution? Or do you mean there are pimps because prost. is illegal?

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 1:04:32 PM

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Neither. What I meant is that prostitution is so bad, in part, because of the pimps. Legalizing prostitution would have many benefits for workers. Nevada is hardly what I could call a sex-workers state. Having to pay the brothel half of what they make, then the cab driver who brought the john in 30% of what they charge is hardly what I would call an independent contractor. Not to mention these women cant leave for weeks at a time. In fact, many prostitutes have claimed the brothels are no better than working for a pimp. But, at least they do get tested and the incidence of STDs, including AIDs is low.

Im speaking of legalization of prostitution with Sex-workers rights established. Civilizations have tried for centuries to outlaw the practice. Its like butting your head against the wall. It isnt going anywhere. Why not protect the women instead?

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 1:07:09 PM

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I didn't think that was what you were saying, but wanted to make sure. The pros have to pay the cabbies??? Unreal!!

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 1:12:02 PM

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She keeps 20% of what she makes. Better than some girls hooked up with a pimp, but barely.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 1:28:44 PM

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I think that has a lot to do with the fact that prostitution isn't actually legal state wide in Nevada....only selected counties,a situation that lends itself to corruption on a local scale....and the taxi drivers enter into because these places are out in the boonies....getting the johns from Vegas out into the sticks where the chicken ranches are located is a service that need to be compensated for.The cabbie can take the fare wherever he "directs" the tourist is the place with the "best woman"

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 1:35:12 PM

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Oh definitely, mike. Something about a population size less than 400,000.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 1:38:35 PM

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Yeah,local politics is a great breeding ground for all sorts of shady shenanigans in the granting of licenses and such.....absent such bullshit,were it truly legal....a girl could hang out her own shingle so to speak....and keep the proceeds of her labors.
But we can't have that,this is America .

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 1:40:08 PM

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Yes, she cant do what she wants with her body because the moral majority deems it "unseemly" even though half of them are regular visitors.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 1:57:12 PM

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I think that has a lot to do with the fact that prostitution isn't actually legal state wide in Nevada....only selected counties,a situation that lends itself to corruption on a local scale....and the taxi drivers enter into because these places are out in the boonies....getting the johns from Vegas out into the sticks where the chicken ranches are located is a service that need to be compensated for.The cabbie can take the fare wherever he "directs" the tourist is the place with the "best woman"

So the cabbie gets paid twice. What a sleaze!

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 1:58:39 PM

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Yeah,local politics is a great breeding ground for all sorts of shady shenanigans in the granting of licenses and such.....absent such bullshit,were it truly legal....a girl could hang out her own shingle so to speak....and keep the proceeds of her labors.
But we can't have that,this is America .

It's too bad they can't hang out their shingle on-line. Cut out the middle-pimp(s).

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 2:02:54 PM

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I know Id like to cut out the pimps genitalia
not good for this thread tho I guess huh

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 2:04:47 PM

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Nope,sort of paints you as a little bit "fringe" if you take my meaning....lol.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 2:11:29 PM

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ya well, my fantasies are sometimes definitely against TOS and just plain nasty.
Luckily I can understand the fine line...
I blame it on my run ins with nastier people

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 2:59:45 PM

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Therefore crack should be legal.

Discuss.

A more facetious way to begin an argument, I have yet to see. Won't the men also take this "legal" crack in your hypotheical situation? How shall we punish them? You see...your position is all about punishing women for having abortions or about not allowing women to have abortions, in the first place. Or perhaps you are equating a medical procedure to being addicted to crack cocaine. All of these positions are, quite frankly, stupid.

Women will have abortions regardless of the legality. Where will you be when a woman bleeds to death because of an unsafe, illegal abortion? Where will you be when children are born unwanted and unappreciated?

Florence Kennedy said it best: "If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament."

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 3:26:22 PM

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Therefore crack should be legal.

Discuss.

HAHAHAHA

no she nor anyone else does because your body is franchised to the us gubbermint and they say you cant so get used to it

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 10:09:26 PM

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crack ends up controlling you

So "a woman has the right to choose what to do with her own body unless other people think she can't handle the consequences"?

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 10:11:26 PM

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What makes prostitution unique? Its a woman deciding what to do with her body. Its not the introduction of mind altering drugs. Its the necessity, or the desire, a woman has to take care of herself. Why is prostitution illegal in almost every state but one? If we took out the "illegal" element and hit the pimps where it hurts, there wouldnt be half the problems

If we took out the 'illegal' element in abortion, drugs, and prostitution, every single one would be cleaner and safer.

We can't really say that a woman's right to do what she wants with her own body ends when you introduce mind altering drugs because then a woman wouldn't have the right to drink alcohol.

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RE: "A woman has the right to do what she wants wi... - 4/15/2011 10:14:43 PM

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crack ends up controlling you

Yes, and so can alcohol and cigarettes, but they are legal.

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