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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 11:48:48 AM   
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Never mind

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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 12:51:35 PM   
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He said she could use emergency money for health needs.

He said she over indulged in sodas and therefore had to ask to buy more, once her weekly allowance was depleted.

She texted him that she left her WATER at home and was thirsty. No question about sodas there.

He didn't respond. My guess is that it was merely an informative text to let him know she needed to get water, and since there was already an understanding in place that she could do that, it didn't warrant a reply. I would agree with that. Saying "I need water" and getting upset that there wasn't permission given to buy a soda doesn't compute for me.

If i don't ask for what I want, I'm not in much of a position to get upset for not getting it.



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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 1:03:00 PM   
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I just read who ever this person is, it is no longer your sub i think you made the right choice. she seemed to need to help organize her life before getting into a relationship... so i edited my entire post and i am sorry! lol

but ill just sum up the post that when youre getting into a relationship do it with love care and independence, i would suggest to never rely on anyone before yourself, because in the end theres just you! :D and its a great thing being single is awesome, being stable is also really super! :D

theres my cheer for the day!


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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 1:03:06 PM   
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When you text "It is so hot and I forgot my water at home." to your Master, do you expect him to understand that you would like to buy some drink?

After you texted that, what if he didn't reply you back, what would you think?

Would you think that he is not concerned about your needs even though you didn't ask him to buy a drink?



Well I don't have a master but from a relationship perspective:

1. Yes.

2. That he was busy.

3. No, because needing to drink water on a hot day is such a ridiculously trivial need that I'd be able to take care of it myself. If he had an issue with the fact that I bought water, then yes I would think he was not concerned about my needs. But basic things like that....that would be like if I texted someone "I'm sleepy" and sat up the next 3 nights waiting for them to text back "go to sleep then." I don't understand that level of micromanagement.

But I think that if you do have that level of micromanagement where someone has to ask permission to get a bottle of water on a hot day, then you need to be responsible enough to reply promptly to any and all texts like that.

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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 1:46:44 PM   
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Quotes like this are kind of getting under my skin, "Why is water on a hot day NOT among things that are allowed to be purchased?" For one, I am reasonably sure that this 3 liter of soda a day sub was in no real danger of dehydration and this was not a matter of health as so many have suggested. Secondly, you forgot your water at home and now you're thirsty? Go back home and get the damn water and curse your own forgetfulness! Too lazy to go home, then go find a damn water fountain somewhere. The idea that buying water was the only possible solution here is ridiculous and I promise, no sub of mine that stupid AND lazy is going to last long!

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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 1:52:15 PM   
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actually if she drinks that much soda a day it's possible that she is VERY susceptible to dehydration. pop really is not a hydrating beverage. plus, depending on how hot it is, it's possible to become very dehydrated very quickly. and if she's very far away, driving all the way home to get a bottle of water, and then driving back would almost certainly cost more in gas than just buying a bottle of water. supposedly he's trying to help her manage her money -- well driving up gas for silly reasons in a $4 a gallon world isn't all that financially responsible. (most restaurants will still give you a free small glass of water, so there's an option, if she's anywhere around restaurants, that is.)
and not every city has widely available public water fountains. in all my time living here in my somewhat sizeable city, i've only found one public water fountain, on a biking/running trail.

are you a doctor, baddaddy? or an expert on their particular geography?


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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 2:21:40 PM   
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Lilly nailed it.  I'll add this to it:
 
The OP's profile lists him as living in Los Angeles.  After briefly living there, I can say that everyone carries bottles/jugs of water.  It's a survival mechanism because LA is a desert.  If you're in a part of the LA metro that's near the ocean, such as Redondo Beach or Santa Monica, the ocean breeze keeps the temperature cool and the marine layer gives the illusion of humidity so you don't realize how dry it is.  If you don't have water on hand at all times, you're going to dehydrate quickly and that can get dangerous. 
 
In addition, people carry water, food, radiator fluid, and a can of gas in the car.  You don't travel very far in LA without at least half a tank of gas, if not a full one, because if you get stuck on the 101 or the 405, you could be in gridlock for hours.  Getting off the highway to find a water fountain might not be an option, and going home to get the water she forgot would be out of the question.  This is why I don't micromanage.  I expect a slave to be an intelligent, competent adult who is capable of planning and forethought.  It sounds like the slave in question was neither.

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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 2:36:17 PM   
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quote:

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Quotes like this are kind of getting under my skin, "Why is water on a hot day NOT among things that are allowed to be purchased?" For one, I am reasonably sure that this 3 liter of soda a day sub was in no real danger of dehydration and this was not a matter of health as so many have suggested. Secondly, you forgot your water at home and now you're thirsty? Go back home and get the damn water and curse your own forgetfulness! Too lazy to go home, then go find a damn water fountain somewhere. The idea that buying water was the only possible solution here is ridiculous and I promise, no sub of mine that stupid AND lazy is going to last long!


Actually I find the idea that he is getting this worked up because his sub bought some water is even more ridiculous, but I only play with adults, so this doesn't come up often.


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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 4:21:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: baddaddy2009

Quotes like this are kind of getting under my skin, "Why is water on a hot day NOT among things that are allowed to be purchased?" For one, I am reasonably sure that this 3 liter of soda a day sub was in no real danger of dehydration and this was not a matter of health as so many have suggested. Secondly, you forgot your water at home and now you're thirsty? Go back home and get the damn water and curse your own forgetfulness! Too lazy to go home, then go find a damn water fountain somewhere. The idea that buying water was the only possible solution here is ridiculous and I promise, no sub of mine that stupid AND lazy is going to last long!


Actually I find the idea that he is getting this worked up because his sub bought some water is even more ridiculous, but I only play with adults, so this doesn't come up often.



Yep. Perfect. I mean really? Permission for water?


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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 4:30:14 PM   
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Actually, I think she got worked up b/c she told him she was hot and thirsty and forgot her water, and he did not reply a/o give her permission to buy some. Not sure on that.

I think (maybe) he told her to stop asking to buy drinks, which is the only way I can think of for not asking for water, or just plain doing it.

I wish the OP would come back and respond, but I suspect he has not gotten the answers he wanted.




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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 4:30:36 PM   
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I wrote this before, but I will write it again.
She didn't need to take permission for water. Not even soda.
She finished her daily spendings, and probably wanted to tell "I forgot my water at home. I finished my money. Can I spend from the safety money to get some soda".
But instead she just wrote "I forgot my water".
She only needed permission for drinks while we are at home and again I wrote this before; not for water, other soft drinks, usually soda.
And she needed that permission because she was consuming a lot of soda. And it was when she was at home where she consume water, juice, or other drinks.
Permission was only for soda which she was consuming dangerously.


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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 5:37:38 PM   
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I am reasonably sure that I am an adult and that I am also intelligent and competent. I know that I have very good organizational and planning skills and good at thinking ahead. With all that, I am required to ask permission to have pop/soda and required to ask permission to spend money. Many people would look at my life and perceive that Alandra and I are highly micromanaged and yet permissions are given at his leisure and not necessarily when we ask for them.

My understanding of the OP's situation:

The slave had access to an allowance that she could spend however she wished
The slave had access to emergency money for things that were a need (i.e. water)
The slave was told that the master did not respond to text messages
The slave often texted the master giving him information about her day
The slave went out on a hot day
The slave forgot her water and texted the master with that information and that it was hot
The slave then became upset that the master did not text her back giving her permission to buy a soda with her emergency money

I am trying to figure out where some of the opinions are coming from that he is a bad master. I guess his mind reading skills suck cause he didn't know "I forgot my water bottle" meant "Can I have a soda?" I will also have to remember to tell my Lord that he sucks as a master because he doesn't often respond to text messages and Alandra and will often ask permission for a pop or a dessert and he will not answer. He would laugh his ass off if I told him that because he set up these rules that it means he is now at my beck and call and has to make himself available to give permission for my desires whenever I want to ask for them.

Sometimes I forget how strictly he rules our lives and then it takes a thread such as this to remind me and make me thank God that I am in a relationship where he is actually in charge. I have to have permission to have certain things. I can ask for them and if he doesn't respond to the question, that means I still don't have permission. I don't even like to contemplate his response if I started assuming that by asking I am automatically entitled. It would not be pretty.

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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 5:39:16 PM   
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There are 4 pages of responses to this thread, and I understand there are language issues (English not being the OPs primary language), but really, does it take much to understand that if someone is thirsty they should get a drink of water? It really isn't that complex of an issue. I see this entire going over this "well, did she have blanket permission to drink when she wasn't in your presence?" kinda comical... thanks for the thread, sincerely it has been interesting.

Want to micromanage, that is your kink.... Yay!!! I am happy for you, but this just seems so over the top to me, that a person would need to question that they could have a drink of they needed it. I am NOT saying that this is the OPs fault, not at all. I am saying I cannot believe it is still being talked about after so many pages. Maybe it is my mood or something, it just seems pretty common sensical to me... thirsty means I drink, hungry means I eat, having a deal with my dom means I ask first, if he doesn't respond to my text and I think I may indeed become dehydrated means I drink anyways, and if he doesn't like that he can find a new submissive.


After all is said and done, it sounded like this person wanted soda, so she "left" her water at home so she would have an excuse to buy one knowing she had spent all her money on junk food already... in essence it sounds like someone suffering from a terrible sugar addiction. A childish person with a sugar addiction is a dangerous thing

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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 5:42:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aynne88

quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

quote:

ORIGINAL: baddaddy2009

Quotes like this are kind of getting under my skin, "Why is water on a hot day NOT among things that are allowed to be purchased?" For one, I am reasonably sure that this 3 liter of soda a day sub was in no real danger of dehydration and this was not a matter of health as so many have suggested. Secondly, you forgot your water at home and now you're thirsty? Go back home and get the damn water and curse your own forgetfulness! Too lazy to go home, then go find a damn water fountain somewhere. The idea that buying water was the only possible solution here is ridiculous and I promise, no sub of mine that stupid AND lazy is going to last long!


Actually I find the idea that he is getting this worked up because his sub bought some water is even more ridiculous, but I only play with adults, so this doesn't come up often.



Yep. Perfect. I mean really? Permission for water?



Um, no.

She needed no permission. How many times does the guy have to say that?

Lord above.

How dehydrated do you have to be that you would rather text your bloke for permission for a soda rather than sort yourself out with a drink of water? Humiliate the hell out of yourself and ask for a beaker of tap water if necessary, from anywhere.

If he's at work what difference would it make at all if she had got herself stuck somewhere? If she can't manage to sort a drink of water out she outn't be let out alone.

She was stupid..and compounded it by asking permission for a soda, of all things.

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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 5:54:45 PM   
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Like I said, I think the language barrier has made this an interesting thread...

It sounds like a sugar addict that was trying to get around the rules to get a soda... like I said, very immature if that is the case

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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 6:02:43 PM   
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using fast reply feature:

I am reasonably sure that I am an adult and that I am also intelligent and competent. I know that I have very good organizational and planning skills and good at thinking ahead. With all that, I am required to ask permission to have pop/soda and required to ask permission to spend money. Many people would look at my life and perceive that Alandra and I are highly micromanaged and yet permissions are given at his leisure and not necessarily when we ask for them.

My understanding of the OP's situation:

The slave had access to an allowance that she could spend however she wished
The slave had access to emergency money for things that were a need (i.e. water)
The slave was told that the master did not respond to text messages
The slave often texted the master giving him information about her day
The slave went out on a hot day
The slave forgot her water and texted the master with that information and that it was hot
The slave then became upset that the master did not text her back giving her permission to buy a soda with her emergency money

I am trying to figure out where some of the opinions are coming from that he is a bad master. I guess his mind reading skills suck cause he didn't know "I forgot my water bottle" meant "Can I have a soda?" I will also have to remember to tell my Lord that he sucks as a master because he doesn't often respond to text messages and Alandra and will often ask permission for a pop or a dessert and he will not answer. He would laugh his ass off if I told him that because he set up these rules that it means he is now at my beck and call and has to make himself available to give permission for my desires whenever I want to ask for them.

Sometimes I forget how strictly he rules our lives and then it takes a thread such as this to remind me and make me thank God that I am in a relationship where he is actually in charge. I have to have permission to have certain things. I can ask for them and if he doesn't respond to the question, that means I still don't have permission. I don't even like to contemplate his response if I started assuming that by asking I am automatically entitled. It would not be pretty.

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Yeyyyy, at last.

You know........Similar situation and set-up here.....I have to ask to have take-away food such as Chinese and Indian.....If I texted M at work to tell him I've forgotten to eat lunch....is he meant to *suppose* that I'm asking for a take-away? He'd think it ludicrous, even if he DID *suppose* that was what the text was about. And if I DID get a reply it would likely be.....* That was rather silly then, wasn't it?*

M can only respond to text messages sporadically between work commitments if he has time....and also, IF he actually gets them. I can generally manage to stay alive between phone calls no matter how stupid I've been.

I am really failing to see how this guy is meant to have fucked up....apart from having had a very silly girl for longer than M would have.

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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 6:09:27 PM   
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There are 4 pages of responses to this thread, and I understand there are language issues (English not being the OPs primary language), but really, does it take much to understand that if someone is thirsty they should get a drink of water? It really isn't that complex of an issue. I see this entire going over this "well, did she have blanket permission to drink when she wasn't in your presence?" kinda comical... thanks for the thread, sincerely it has been interesting.

Want to micromanage, that is your kink.... Yay!!! I am happy for you, but this just seems so over the top to me, that a person would need to question that they could have a drink of they needed it. I am NOT saying that this is the OPs fault, not at all. I am saying I cannot believe it is still being talked about after so many pages. Maybe it is my mood or something, it just seems pretty common sensical to me... thirsty means I drink, hungry means I eat, having a deal with my dom means I ask first, if he doesn't respond to my text and I think I may indeed become dehydrated means I drink anyways, and if he doesn't like that he can find a new submissive.


After all is said and done, it sounded like this person wanted soda, so she "left" her water at home so she would have an excuse to buy one knowing she had spent all her money on junk food already... in essence it sounds like someone suffering from a terrible sugar addiction. A childish person with a sugar addiction is a dangerous thing


I think it's being talked about because so many people didn't actually read what the guy wrote and wandered off up their own hypothetical path.

He spelled it out perfectly clearly. I'm actually a bit surprised that so much was misconstrued.

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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 6:12:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

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I am reasonably sure that I am an adult and that I am also intelligent and competent. I know that I have very good organizational and planning skills and good at thinking ahead. With all that, I am required to ask permission to have pop/soda and required to ask permission to spend money. Many people would look at my life and perceive that Alandra and I are highly micromanaged and yet permissions are given at his leisure and not necessarily when we ask for them.

My understanding of the OP's situation:

The slave had access to an allowance that she could spend however she wished
The slave had access to emergency money for things that were a need (i.e. water)
The slave was told that the master did not respond to text messages
The slave often texted the master giving him information about her day
The slave went out on a hot day
The slave forgot her water and texted the master with that information and that it was hot
The slave then became upset that the master did not text her back giving her permission to buy a soda with her emergency money

I am trying to figure out where some of the opinions are coming from that he is a bad master. I guess his mind reading skills suck cause he didn't know "I forgot my water bottle" meant "Can I have a soda?" I will also have to remember to tell my Lord that he sucks as a master because he doesn't often respond to text messages and Alandra and will often ask permission for a pop or a dessert and he will not answer. He would laugh his ass off if I told him that because he set up these rules that it means he is now at my beck and call and has to make himself available to give permission for my desires whenever I want to ask for them.

Sometimes I forget how strictly he rules our lives and then it takes a thread such as this to remind me and make me thank God that I am in a relationship where he is actually in charge. I have to have permission to have certain things. I can ask for them and if he doesn't respond to the question, that means I still don't have permission. I don't even like to contemplate his response if I started assuming that by asking I am automatically entitled. It would not be pretty.

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LOL well you summarized it all much more succinctly than my attempt to, and than the OP did.  Maybe by now people will stop pummeling the poor guy for rules he never set.


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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 6:13:55 PM   
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She needed no permission. How many times does the guy have to say that?



Apparently a lot!!

And to this:
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I'm actually a bit surprised that so much was misconstrued.


So am I.


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RE: Informing and Asking - 6/21/2011 6:18:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

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ORIGINAL: agirl

She needed no permission. How many times does the guy have to say that?



Apparently a lot!!

And to this:
quote:


I'm actually a bit surprised that so much was misconstrued.


So am I.



lol..........Sometimes folk get an idea in their head and no amount of typing out the* facts as posed* will shake them.

Still, it was fun to watch it all. Especially the bit where he was supposed to be all worked up...yet seemingly wasn't in the least :)

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