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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 10:17:02 AM

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OK, you might be winning me around. Can I borrow ?

see..

I like this one too.. it reminds me of Pierre Trudeau spinning a pirouette behind Queen Elizabeth..

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 4:12:26 PM

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Alright bitches, back to the topic! ;-)

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 4:38:14 PM

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All right, then - back to the topic.

Please cheer me up. I want to see comments along the lines of "Well, I used to be a bitch, but that was when I was angry about men, about patriarchy in general. Now I realise, fully, that I can do what I want to do. I know that every time I engage in a fight with a man, or men in general, my trek towards what I am stops, because I can't fight and carry on with my journey at the same time'.

Honestly, sometimes, I do wish women would just get on with it, if they want to be dominants, if they want to take that power. Stop bleating, stop spitting and miaowing, stop fighting with schoolboys of the past or present (to reassure yourself, time and time again, that you can win such fights), and just *get on with it*.

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 5:34:49 PM

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Do you consider yourself a Bitch?
No but other people do *wiggles eyebrows*
Im just a big softy who refuses to suffer fools gladly.
Can I be one? damn straight.

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 5:57:53 PM

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Honestly, sometimes, I do wish women would just get on with it, if they want to be dominants, if they want to take that power. Stop bleating, stop spitting and miaowing, stop fighting with schoolboys of the past or present (to reassure yourself, time and time again, that you can win such fights), and just *get on with it*.

The thing about them being dominants is that they are under no obligation to comply with your preconceptions of what they should be or do. Male or female, we dominants are awfully uncooperative that way. Nor, I suspect, are most of them motivated by the reasons you ascribe to them. You said earlier that you don't use smileys to indicate when you are joking around, I hope this is one of those times. Because otherwise, the blatant male chauvinism displayed in this post is very disappointing.

Soooo...either
"Nice try, but not really that funny"
or
"Shut your gob you filthy Neanderthal"

Whichever is appropriate.

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 6:33:59 PM

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Soooo...either
"Nice try, but not really that funny"
or
"Shut your gob you filthy Neanderthal"

Whichever is appropriate.

Sorry, Arpig. You've missed by so many miles. I know that it'd make it easy for you to cast me in the role of some brainless anti-feminist, and a few have tried that, already, here. But that isn't going to cut it. It simply isn't the case - and you can't begin to understand how certain I am of that. Whatever cretinous position you thought I was coming from - is wrong. Soooooo - swivel on it, beardie. And think again. ;-)

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 6:46:55 PM

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Do you consider yourself a Bitch?
No but other people do *wiggles eyebrows*
Im just a big softy who refuses to suffer fools gladly.
Can I be one? damn straight.

Good!

To me, the question that I put is equivalent to that which I've put to myself, time and again. Who's stopping me be a sub? I've looked for the external enemy - and not found it. I hate that! Now, it makes things difficult!

*I'm* just a big softy who refuses to suffer fools gladly. But, hell, it's a waste of time, in the end, suffering them at all. As a malesub, you're surrounded by men who'll give you their fools' stuff all the time . . . It's so pointless to get stuck in that place.

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 6:54:57 PM

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Just keep reading my post over and over again...while I figure out a better word than "snark".

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 7:05:08 PM

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Oh, hey, Lady Hib - and all - don't take my comments personally. It's not particularly directed at people here. I'm thinking of students of mine, but more so a couple of ex-partners. One partner in particular, actually. And women who want to be femdoms, but can't break the barrier. There's a point where the water's right there in front of us, and no-one's stopping us - but we, all of us, still ain't drinking. This is what I'm talking about. Does 'Get bitchy!' work for you as the magic spell? Fine. Go for it. I don't care, in the end. Whatever it takes.

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 7:11:25 PM

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Well you weren't snar--um, some other word--to me :) besides, I know you well enough that you'd do a five page p-take just to make your point!

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 7:14:46 PM

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When I meet you, I'm going to hug you to death, lovely woman.

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 7:17:03 PM

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I just prefer to call him cheeky. You have to love euphemisms that have two meanings.

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 7:17:27 PM

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Whatever cretinous position you thought I was coming from - is wrong.

Alright there absinator, I'll take your word for it, but it sure didn't read that way.

How about we compromise and I call you an exceptionally well groomed Cro-magnon?

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 8:24:31 PM

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And women who want to be femdoms, but can't break the barrier.

what the fuck do you mean by that?

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/22/2011 9:52:48 PM

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He means that some women--and let's bear in mind here that the UK is not like here--can't overcome the nice girl v. Bitch dichotomy, and hold back because they're not like that nasty stereotype.

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/23/2011 6:38:08 AM

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He means that some women--and let's bear in mind here that the UK is not like here--can't overcome the nice girl v. Bitch dichotomy, and hold back because they're not like that nasty stereotype.

Nice LadyHibiscus... for some reason that just made me smile.

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/23/2011 7:57:04 AM

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He means that some women--and let's bear in mind here that the UK is not like here--can't overcome the nice girl v. Bitch dichotomy, and hold back because they're not like that nasty stereotype.

I think that it is a far broader brush.

I've been doing A LOT of thinking about gender expectations, over the last 24 hours, because of a few different conversations.

I think that, all too often, we handicap ourselves. Either through our conditioning as to what a man or woman 'should be' or, in the case of a few specific individuals I know, laziness and lack of motivation to take personal responsibility.

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/23/2011 8:16:09 AM

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He means that some women--and let's bear in mind here that the UK is not like here--can't overcome the nice girl v. Bitch dichotomy, and hold back because they're not like that nasty stereotype.

so those who can't be bitchy/nasty are "women who want to be femdoms but can't". and

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For what it's worth: some women who've commented here I've never seen as bitches in any sense of the word so far outlined. To me they've always, frankly, seemed a bit like milksops. No offence. :-)

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A lot of you are teetering on the edge of 'protesting too much'.

so the bulk of us aren't femdoms in his eyes, i got it now.
and i am the lest of you all. fine.

fuck you peon. she dumped your stuck-up chauvinistic judgmental ass and you aren't going to get her back. get used to being on your own, i foresee a lot of it in your future. sucks to be you, but you did it to yourself. go take your juvenile resentment and stuff it up your pompous chauvinistic ass.

fucking dickwad. if he is a "good male sub" how the fuck do you het dommes manage to do it. i swear, if i was into them and this was "good" i'd fucking shoot myself. see why i find most of them creepy little fucks, they are all fucking do-mes, with fucked up ideas of women. fuck them and their pedestals.

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/23/2011 9:34:09 AM

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i swear, if i was into them and this was "good" i'd fucking shoot myself. see why i find most of them creepy little fucks, they are all fucking do-mes, with fucked up ideas of women. fuck them and their pedestals.

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RE: Do you consider yourself a Bitch? - 8/23/2011 11:11:58 AM

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fuck you peon. she dumped your stuck-up chauvinistic judgmental ass and you aren't going to get her back. get used to being on your own, i foresee a lot of it in your future. sucks to be you, but you did it to yourself. go take your juvenile resentment and stuff it up your pompous chauvinistic ass.

fucking dickwad. if he is a "good male sub" how the fuck do you het dommes manage to do it. i swear, if i was into them and this was "good" i'd fucking shoot myself. see why i find most of them creepy little fucks, they are all fucking do-mes, with fucked up ideas of women. fuck them and their pedestals.

Actually, Fuckannah, you repulsive little twat-mouth, that does in fact have some truth to it. I was nearly as young as you when I had that relationship, and only slightly less a moronic 'I'm the only radical around who can't conceive that she's got prejudices' bollocks-for-brained arse-plug that you are now.

I was indeed more of a 'do me' than I am now. As I've advised a few males who've turned up here hoping to 'bring out' the femdom in their partners, the hardest trick of all is not to force, not to pressure. And she will feel that more than you think you're giving it, because women generally do. They've been taught to develop their antennae that way.

"Pompous", my arse. Next to you, the way a retarded boar speaks English would sound plummy and over-cultured.

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